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The problem for me with the Delph transfer, it is what it says about both the club and the player.

 

When he signed his new contract a few months ago, the club made a massive deal of it, absolutely wrung every last drop of publicity, had him do a big video thing which they showed on the screens at VP before the next match.

 

Then it turns out he's re-signed, yes, but with a pathetically low release fee (the same as we paid for him). Quite clearly, the whole thing was a case of "I'll sign a new deal to make sure you don't lose me for nothing" but with a really low release fee to make sure he could get a move.

 

Then they stick him in all the promo pics for the kit launch last week, then it turns out he's off to Man City.

 

That's the stuff that reflects badly on the club - fucking idiots to have made such a big deal out of the new contract and then the kit launch thing, too.

 

Then Delph, this time last week, comes out with all that shit about it being his club, how he's loyal etc, only to fuck off a week later.

 

That's the bit that reflects badly on Delph.

 

The really sad bit in all this is this is the sort of bollocks that goes on all the time in football, and as usual, the only people who really suffer are the fans who, unless they get bought by a mental human rights abusing middle east prince or a thieving Russian oligarch, are expected to keep forking out more and more money to watch this pointless, futile rubbish year after year.

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Love Brummie me and I have a soft spot for Villa. But Delph, fucking hell man, what a cunt! I can see them struggling again.

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Strikes me that Delph may have said to Sherwood - "Will we improve and will we keep Benteke?" to which he said "Yes and Yes". With Benteke gone, he may have thought "ah well, fuck it" and gone.

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Fernando played over 30 games for them last season. I'd have Delph over him.

 

Different roles, not particularly sure i'd want Delph being the last line of defense in midfield and covering everything Yaya doesn't do defensively.

 

 

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Strikes me that Delph may have said to Sherwood - "Will we improve and will we keep Benteke?" to which he said "Yes and Yes". With Benteke gone, he may have thought "ah well, fuck it" and gone.

 

If Benteke is going to Liverpool, Delph will have known this last week, as will Benteke.

 

In the case of Delph the whole thing is made a bit more galling by the fact we spent 8m on him, watched him be almost permanently injured for three years, gave him a new contract, stood by him, got him into the England squad, and watched him do this.

 

I wouldn't blame him if he'd just sat out his contract and fucked off to Man City, but all this other shit around the transfer, totally avoidable.

 

 

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Fernando played over 30 games for them last season. I'd have Delph over him.

 

Different roles, not particularly sure i'd want Delph being the last line of defense in midfield and covering everything Yaya doesn't do defensively.

 

Fernandinho would be DM.

 

Anyway  :lol:

http://i.imgur.com/FD7VSO0.png

 

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He's bang average as well. Villa are bigger than this cunt, sadly it seems modern football isn't!

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Brummie, I hope you're not too despondent about this because he's fucking typical of English talent at the moment, massively nowt special!

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Villa are in trouble. Not because they have sold there two, (three if you include Vlaar), best players but because they have not improved.

 

If you don't go forward, other teams catch you up. That's why we are worried about signings.

 

Villa need to hope for two things, some good management (team spirit from Sherwood) and a couple of inspired signings. FWIW, I think Sherwood is capable of the former but I doubt Villa are capable of the latter.

 

Look at it this way Villa have to replace Vlaar, Delph, Benteke and Cleverley to break even. Then they need to improve.

 

We don't need to replace Vlaar to change much - last season he was either injured or s****.

 

We've brought in Richards and Gueye - who looked to me like a Delph replacement when he signed. We've still got a lot of signings to make, but our form under Sherwood was totally different to that under Lambert, and far more representative of the squad.

 

Going back to Vlaar, though, it makes me laugh when I hear the media or fans of other clubs go on about how we'll miss him. Ask Villa fans, you'll get a different story.

 

I always think you should take note of what a club's fans say about a player, a manager or their team because they will have watched them closer than any other club's fans or media pundits.  The soundbites cleverly dropped into the media by a manager often form the media and therefore other fan's opinions.

 

 

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People need to stop pretending that anyone is loyal to their club. No matter what they say. And especially when it's just a kid you bought from another team who had no ties to your team in the first place. Words mean nothing, it's all just business to them, neverending gesturing to get the biggest payday.

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Villa are in trouble. Not because they have sold there two, (three if you include Vlaar), best players but because they have not improved.

 

If you don't go forward, other teams catch you up. That's why we are worried about signings.

 

Villa need to hope for two things, some good management (team spirit from Sherwood) and a couple of inspired signings. FWIW, I think Sherwood is capable of the former but I doubt Villa are capable of the latter.

 

Look at it this way Villa have to replace Vlaar, Delph, Benteke and Cleverley to break even. Then they need to improve.

 

We don't need to replace Vlaar to change much - last season he was either injured or s****.

 

We've brought in Richards and Gueye - who looked to me like a Delph replacement when he signed. We've still got a lot of signings to make, but our form under Sherwood was totally different to that under Lambert, and far more representative of the squad.

 

Going back to Vlaar, though, it makes me laugh when I hear the media or fans of other clubs go on about how we'll miss him. Ask Villa fans, you'll get a different story.

 

I always think you should take note of what a club's fans say about a player, a manager or their team because they will have watched them closer than any other club's fans or media pundits.  The soundbites cleverly dropped into the media by a manager often form the media and therefore other fan's opinions.

 

 

He was class for the Netherlands so people think he must be class for Villa too. But he has been unnoticable to me in the PL. Not sure if due to injury or mediocrity, but either way, I'm sure they'll survive without him.*

 

*literally survive, not survive in the PL. I'm far from sure about that.

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Aye that's fair enough Brummie. I was aware of his injury record but I thought he was a bi character at Villa.

 

Wallace above is bang on correct.

 

The media get their heads around something they see as fact. Another one for us was that we were "a strong counter attacking team" and had "lots of pace up front". We were a very good counter attacking team, yes. Under O'Neill, over five years ago. As for the pace up front, Weimann has none, Benteke doesn't have a huge amount, and Agbonlahor has lots but doesn't have a brain.

 

We'd hear it all the time.

 

It's much like the way the media talk about you lot and go on about how you won't accept cockneys, or you drove Pardew out or whatever.

 

Vlaar wasn't rubbish for us, far from it, but the problem is, as was said, he had an amazing world cup. That came after a mediocre season for us, and was followed by more mediocrity and further long term injuries.

 

I see he needs another knee operation this summer, so he's currently without a club and has got knee knack yet again.

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I often find it's a lot easier to perform at end of season tournaments for lesser players who play less anyway. If you play less games than those at the very highest level in EL/CL than you will be fresher and the skill gap will diminish compared to middle of a season.

 

Vlaar is part of that, not saying he's crap or anything but it's amazing the amount of lesser players who perform well at these tournaments but when the actual season comes around their level is nowhere near the same miraculously.

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Vlaar has been a first choice since he came here.

 

In three seasons, he's featured in 79 of 114 league matches for us. The ones he's not been in, he's been injured. I don't recall him ever getting dropped.

 

That's basically 70% of our league games, he's been fit for.

 

What's more, he seemed to specialise in injuries that'd do you a month at a time which made his appearances very fragmented.

 

Apparently him and his agent have turned up in Rome trying to get him in at Lazio.

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