SiLvOR Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 14 hours ago, Sima said: There was a goal he scored against Fulham that was absolutely outrageous. I was there for that. Lost my fucking mind. So did everyone else around me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 https://reddit.com/r/NUFC/comments/121j04z/on_this_day_2012_west_brom_1_3_newcastle_united/ God when he was on song he was good. HBA, Ba & Cisse were as good as any front 3 in the league for 6 months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) One of my favourite ever NUFC games that, just absolutely clinical. Cisse will forever be one of the biggest enigmas I've ever seen watching us. HBA we always knew was a head case and blew hot & cold. He was legitimately one of the best centre forwards in the world for just 6 months though. Edited March 25, 2023 by Anderson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Can't help watching clips of Ben Arfa and think, what's he doing so far up the pitch when he should be tracking back and defending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 57 minutes ago, TBG said: Can't help watching clips of Ben Arfa and think, what's he doing so far up the pitch when he should be tracking back and defending. gonna see if this can get me some karma cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 4 hours ago, LiquidAK said: https://reddit.com/r/NUFC/comments/121j04z/on_this_day_2012_west_brom_1_3_newcastle_united/ God when he was on song he was good. HBA, Ba & Cisse were as good as any front 3 in the league for 6 months That second goal man. All from an absolutely world class touch by Hatem. Pure fucking taste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Someone said Gary Neville was more talented than HBA in another thread. Can you imagine? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Also, those front players, with our current defense, Bruno instead of Guthrie, and a sprinkling of Big Joe/Willock athleticism. Fuck me that would be some team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Someone said Gary Neville was more talented than HBA in another thread. Can you imagine? Just compare their stats. Neville is such a better defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 More talented? You can argue he’s a lot of things, more successful, more balanced, more reliable etc but more talented? Who was this charlatan? Can they be named and shamed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) Ben Arfa is like Gazza(just not as good). There is something “broke”/different in his brain that gives him his genius. But it also affects him in other ways. Which ultimately stopped him reaching his full potential. On gazza I watched a program years ago that described him as a child. He would near literally have a ball at his feet all day. Walking to school. Walking home. Then he’d be obsessed playing, practicing. it was his life. It could pretty much be described as a mental illness his obsession. It’s what made him great and stopped him being an all time great. We like to beat pardew up about it but I think there was far more behind the scenes that justified his treatment of Ben Arfa to a degree. Edited March 25, 2023 by KetsbaiaIsBald Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 We need one of them to release a book, basically. Be interested to see what actually happened there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 37 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said: Ben Arfa is like Gazza(just not as good). There is something “broke”/different in his brain that gives him his genius. But it also affects him in other ways. Which ultimately stopped him reaching his full potential. On gazza I watched a program years ago that described him as a child. He would near literally have a ball at his feet all day. Walking to school. Walking home. Then he’d be obsessed playing, practicing. it was his life. It could pretty much be described as a mental illness his obsession. It’s what made him great and stopped him being an all time great. We like to beat pardew up about it but I think there was far more behind the scenes that justified his treatment of Ben Arfa to a degree. I think Rafa and Howe would end up pushing HBA out of the door, too. That’s not to say Pardew is on equal footing, nor that he handled HBA well - but I agree with the Gazza comparison. The fact that HBA ends up at NUFC at all - and stays for a few years - is sad testament to a wasted talent. The lad was well known about and was a wunderkind - he should’ve been moving to Barcelona (or similar) instead of us. HBA was a sublime footballer - but clearly, there was more wrong than him just being ‘Pardewed’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 I do think a part of it for Hatem was having something to believe in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 22 hours ago, LiquidAK said: https://reddit.com/r/NUFC/comments/121j04z/on_this_day_2012_west_brom_1_3_newcastle_united/ God when he was on song he was good. HBA, Ba & Cisse were as good as any front 3 in the league for 6 months God we were so fucking good that game. Completely unplayable when that front 3 were on form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 If only Keegan got Ben Arfa to manage - even for one season. It probably would have been like his season at Nice. If he got a creative tune out of Owen, who was a fading speed merchant who was losing his legs, imagine what he could have done with the natural talent of Ben Arfa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 One of the reasons we love him so much is that he reminds us of NUFC of years gone by - huge huge potential and amazing when it's all working but for some reason we always press the self destruct button and capitulate horribly. Whether it's appointing Dalglish, Souness, McClaren & Bruce after Keegan, Robson, Pardew (fresh start) and Benitez or it's only signing Bowyer or Anita the summer after a good season, or its buying good players in theory who promise a lot but it doesn't work out (e.g. De Jong, Luque, Owen, Cabella, Thauvin etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 21 hours ago, TBG said: Can't help watching clips of Ben Arfa and think, what's he doing so far up the pitch when he should be tracking back and defending. Yeah no wonder Dan Fucking Gosling and The Mekon were better choices than that lazy oik, fuck football being enjoyable. Pardew, what a class act he wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) The movement was everything in those goals, such fluid interchanging. Not unlike what Eddie is trying to implement now. At the moment though, Almiron/Wilson and ASM/Murphy don't have the ability Ba and Hatem had obviously. But Isak's certainly does, so much to looked forward too. Edited March 26, 2023 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 On 30/04/2014 at 22:35, Dave said: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastles-hatem-ben-arfa-want-3479261 That was the other thing. He actually felt at home here and wanted to stay despite being frozen out. His output was phenomenal in a struggling team. And then when he was forced out he was the iconic rebel, the symbol of the revolution, of hope. There's plenty of reasons for the love story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Some insane dribbling in this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Jaqen said: Some insane dribbling in this. Fucking hell that is a ridiculous video. (Although he is very silly in the very first one ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 HBA fell out with multiple managers in his career. To only blame Pardew is incredibly short sighted. On 25/03/2023 at 19:19, gbandit said: More talented? You can argue he’s a lot of things, more successful, more balanced, more reliable etc but more talented? Who was this charlatan? Can they be named and shamed? TBG is one of them. On 25/03/2023 at 18:38, TBG said: Just compare their stats. Neville is such a better defender. He’s talking stats I’m talking talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 TBG lives off Ken M’ing people. He was just trolling in a kind-hearted way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 25/03/2023 at 11:02, Anderson said: One of my favourite ever NUFC games that, just absolutely clinical. Cisse will forever be one of the biggest enigmas I've ever seen watching us. HBA we always knew was a head case and blew hot & cold. He was legitimately one of the best centre forwards in the world for just 6 months though. Nearly all the 11/12 goals were all legitimately world class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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