Guest Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Think they probably have enough points to be safe. Leicester and Burnley look destined. QPR and Villa might get new manager rub but they look terrible. Mackems are also on the cusp of bombing. Could see palace easily losing the majority of their games left and still staying up because those others won't pick up points. Palace will be down in the next year or two with Pardew in charge. This May might be too soon, but it will happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Does anybody have a link to when he said that he wouldn't go to somewhere like crystal palace, because he's outgrown them? Sure it was over a year ago. But can't find it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Does anybody have a link to when he said that he wouldn't go to somewhere like crystal palace, because he's outgrown them? Sure it was over a year ago. But can't find it. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-aiming-higher-jobs-7687229 That's what you are thinking of I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Does anybody have a link to when he said that he wouldn't go to somewhere like crystal palace, because he's outgrown them? Sure it was over a year ago. But can't find it. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-aiming-higher-jobs-7687229 That's what you are thinking of I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Does anybody have a link to when he said that he wouldn't go to somewhere like crystal palace, because he's outgrown them? Sure it was over a year ago. But can't find it. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-aiming-higher-jobs-7687229 That's what you are thinking of I believe. Thank you so much, hate this cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Does anybody have a link to when he said that he wouldn't go to somewhere like crystal palace, because he's outgrown them? Sure it was over a year ago. But can't find it. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-aiming-higher-jobs-7687229 That's what you are thinking of I believe. Might be worth sharing that with those adorable palace fans. Tee hee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayola Kid Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 this daft cunt will be puffing his chest out, nodding along while he reads this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31470797 no mystery at all that this has been produced during a season where 'big' clubs are involved, mind you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 'Scored too early' was another of his gems aired once more the other night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 'Scored too early' was another of his gems aired once more the other night. Nowt worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I think the one thing he was still right about was the negative effect of the Europa League. Obviously it's not the reason we were so shit for so long, but it's clearly a factor that makes things harder for the manager and players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Dropped 11 places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I think the one thing he was still right about was the negative effect of the Europa League. Obviously it's not the reason we were so shit for so long, but it's clearly a factor that makes things harder for the manager and players. Which doesn't really tally with our very worst run of form coming in between the long gap in the EL fixtures from Nov - Feb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 this daft c*** will be puffing his chest out, nodding along while he reads this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31470797 no mystery at all that this has been produced during a season where 'big' clubs are involved, mind you It's looks good for him at first, data shows teams suffer by 2 or 3 positions, then we have our own special state 11, despite the trend 11 places is a clear anomaly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I'm not so sure it's such a big effect. If you look at the seasons in isolation then there appears to be correlation but expand it out a bit and that correlation suddenly melts into the 'noise'. Stoke 2008/09 - 12th 2009/10 - 11th 2010/11 - 13th 2011/12 - 14th 2012/13 - 13th Everton 2006/07 - 6th 2007/08 - 5th 2008/09 - 5th 2009/10 - 8th 2010/11 - 7th 2011/12 - 7th 2012/13 - 6th 2013/14 - 5th Spurs 2013/14 - 6th 2012/13 - 5th 2011/12 - 4th 2010/11 - 5th 2009/10 - 4th 2008/09 - 8th 2007/08 - 11th 2006/07 - 5th 2005/06 - 5th Swansea 2011/12 - 11th 2012/13 - 9th 2013/14 - 12th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I think the one thing he was still right about was the negative effect of the Europa League. Obviously it's not the reason we were so shit for so long, but it's clearly a factor that makes things harder for the manager and players. Which doesn't really tally with our very worst run of form coming in between the long gap in the EL fixtures from Nov - Feb. Fair enough, nobody's saying it explains every problem or means it's literally impossible to do well. It just seems clear that extra games and flights and less time to train would be a challenge for the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 So the average fall is 2,3 places. Our average fall is 8,7 places. In fact if we take Newcastle out of the equation and look at the other clubs, the average fall is just 1,7 places. Not too bad and certainly no excuse for dropping 11 places. Actually seems they could have just changed the headline to "Europa league hurts Newcastle's premier league campaign" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 There was an article on the EL on the BBC a couple of days ago that may be interesting, didn't get the chance to read it. I'm sure SackPardew looked at it too but can't remember the details. The conclusion was it doesn't have that much of an impact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I think the article found that it was not immediately after the Europa league games that points were lost, rather it was the Thursday Sunday schedule that led to missed rest days, additional time away from families etc that can grind players down over a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Manage your time and your players efficiently and Europa League isn't a problem. Pardew struggled with that with his limited tactical scope and the squad not being correctly strengthened, something which he was complicit in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 The variable having the greatest impact in effecting league position in my objective opinion is the fact our manager was a complete and utter penis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 The variable having the greatest impact in effecting league position in my objective opinion is the fact our manager was a complete and utter penis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Still a cunt. Hope Arsenal trounce them tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 It does have an effect - especially for teams not regularly in Europe. The facts have proved it. Loki's example misses nuances. the 2 years Spurs finished 4th (which is a massive jump from 5th in our division), they had no Europe after Christmas by the looks of things. The first after no Europe at all. Swansea finished below par in the league despite a good campaign as they relaxed after winning LC. They where a comfortable midtable team that whole season. The next, they where in a relegation battle and sacked their manager and ended the season in good form ending in midtable. But the seasons where very different. Taking the EL so seriously "cost" Seville a top 4 finish imo. As Pardew is such a streaky and poor manager it makes sense that when things hit the buffer, it really goes wrong. But his point has merit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Not to the extent of dropping 11 places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Not to the extent of dropping 11 places. No, it's not the only reason we were shit, clearly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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