midds Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 We've been even worse in the past so don't bother complaining, it could always be worse. Remember when....blah blah. Fucking bollocks. Positively wallowing in how poor it was 30 or 40 years ago and using it as a defence for Ashley in 2015. It's beyond pathetic. Cunts like this one seem to enjoy reliving the bad old days and seem to enjoy wearing it as a backward badge of honour. The way we're being run has killed all hope, passion and enthusiasm and the way MacKeag et al ran the show a few generations ago is totally irrelevant. We've been shit before so just put up with it. What a cowardly, spineless subservient attitude to have. Cunts like the ones described need putting out of their misery, fuck they'd probably be happy to pay for the fucking bullets the dopey pricks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 We've been even worse in the past so don't bother complaining, it could always be worse. Remember when....blah blah. Fucking bollocks. Positively wallowing in how poor it was 30 or 40 years ago and using it as a defence for Ashley in 2015. It's beyond pathetic. Cunts like this one seem to enjoy reliving the bad old days and seem to enjoy wearing it as a backward badge of badge of honour. The way we're being run has killed all hope, passion and enthusiasm and the way MacKeag et al ran the show a few generations ago is totally irrelevant. We've been shit before so just put up with it. What a cowardly, spineless subservient attitude to have. Cunts like the ones described need putting out of their misery, fuck they'd probably be happy to pay for the fucking bullets the dopey pricks. *Note to self* Vote for Midds for Football poster of the year next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 True. I wonder if Fulham or Wigan fans defend where they are now, just because 20 years ago they were near the bottom of the fourth tier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Not sure how the 1970s are relevant to Mike Ashley considering 4 decades have passed since and we had a spell in between where the potential and status of the club was expanded exponentially at the same time that football did in this country and globally. We rode the PL boom and the club was transformed from what it was previously. Ashley is judged on the fact that as a sporting, financial and community institution the club have gone backwards from the point of him taking over. Judging the club against what it was in the 70s is a nonsense because of what happened inbetween, I'm really not sure how that isn't patently obvious tbh. Ashley is the worst person ever to be associated with the club and is making the least out of the situation he inherited (unless you're happy with Sports Direct's success). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Sadly we are an empty shell of a club now, nothing left to support. Our only function is to remain safe in the Premiership and act as an advertising hoarding for Sports Direct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Anyone listen to Totalsport tonight? (Yeah, I know, but its on during my drive home!). Anyway, Andersons response to anyone criticising the club for these loans was... "Whoy?!" Properly towing the club line. Claiming that all of the players loaned were miles away from the first team, and this would do the good. Then they started reading texts out, and one was from a (supposed) Newcastle supporter claiming this was a good thing, and we should sign more young players and loan them straight out to Rangers for first team experience until they are ready for ours. Additionally, I don't think they have mentioned the tweets from Santons GF at all, despite the claims she made in them. Are there really people who think like this? As far as the past v present argument goes - in the past we may have been worse, sold players, been mid-table at best. But the differnec then, was you felt there was an ambition and desire to ultimately be/do better. Now, as stated above, we are simply an advertising vehicle for S*****D*****.com. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Carvery Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Can't see how sending any player to scotland will prepare them for premier league action. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rustin Cohle Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Anyone listen to Totalsport tonight? (Yeah, I know, but its on during my drive home!). Anyway, Andersons response to anyone criticising the club for these loans was... "Whoy?!" Properly towing the club line. Claiming that all of the players loaned were miles away from the first team, and this would do the good. Then they started reading texts out, and one was from a (supposed) Newcastle supporter claiming this was a good thing, and we should sign more young players and loan them straight out to Rangers for first team experience until they are ready for ours. Additionally, I don't think they have mentioned the tweets from Santons GF at all, despite the claims she made in them. Are there really people who think like this? Anderson is right. The 5 players we sent to Rangers are gash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rustin Cohle Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Note: Havent seen Streete or Mbabu play but assuming they'll never make it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Note: Havent seen Streete or Mbabu play but assuming they'll never make it. I'd assume they're great considering Pardew rarely/never played them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Note: Havent seen Streete or Mbabu play but assuming they'll never make it. I'd assume they're great considering Pardew rarely/never played them. I'd assume they'll never make it considering that they're Newcastle youth players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Note: Havent seen Streete or Mbabu play but assuming they'll never make it. I'd assume they're great considering Pardew rarely/never played them. I'd assume they'll never make it considering that they're Newcastle youth players. Ah man, where's the fun in that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Note: Havent seen Streete or Mbabu play but assuming they'll never make it. I'd assume they're great considering Pardew rarely/never played them. I'd assume they'll never make it considering that they're Newcastle youth players. Ah man, where's the fun in that? We have one of the worst-run youth setups in the league. It's not fun at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Note: Havent seen Streete or Mbabu play but assuming they'll never make it. I'd assume they're great considering Pardew rarely/never played them. I'd assume they'll never make it considering that they're Newcastle youth players. This, unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Note: Havent seen Streete or Mbabu play but assuming they'll never make it. I'd assume they're great considering Pardew rarely/never played them. I'd assume they'll never make it considering that they're Newcastle youth players. Ah man, where's the fun in that? We have one of the worst-run youth setups in the league. It's not fun at all. I'm not sure that's totally the case given half decent prem players we have produced and a few coming through, however could be much better. A lot of clubs in this league bring fuck all through. Look at Sunderland which had decent academy and only brought through Henderson and Wor Jack really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/item/8457-bigis-all-smiles-at-rangers? Such a good young dude. Hope he does great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 We've been even worse in the past so don't bother complaining, it could always be worse. Remember when....blah blah. f***ing bollocks. Positively wallowing in how poor it was 30 or 40 years ago and using it as a defence for Ashley in 2015. It's beyond pathetic. c***s like this one seem to enjoy reliving the bad old days and seem to enjoy wearing it as a backward badge of badge of honour. The way we're being run has killed all hope, passion and enthusiasm and the way MacKeag et al ran the show a few generations ago is totally irrelevant. We've been s*** before so just put up with it. What a cowardly, spineless subservient attitude to have. c***s like the ones described need putting out of their misery, f*** they'd probably be happy to pay for the f***ing bullets the dopey pricks. Needs a requote.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Loads of them moaning the loanees might not be good enough and they haven't heard of them. It's a glorified pub league FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Bigi will boss that league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 We've been even worse in the past so don't bother complaining, it could always be worse. Remember when....blah blah. f***ing bollocks. Positively wallowing in how poor it was 30 or 40 years ago and using it as a defence for Ashley in 2015. It's beyond pathetic. c***s like this one seem to enjoy reliving the bad old days and seem to enjoy wearing it as a backward badge of badge of honour. The way we're being run has killed all hope, passion and enthusiasm and the way MacKeag et al ran the show a few generations ago is totally irrelevant. We've been s*** before so just put up with it. What a cowardly, spineless subservient attitude to have. c***s like the ones described need putting out of their misery, f*** they'd probably be happy to pay for the f***ing bullets the dopey pricks. Needs a requote.. Only to show how misguided it is. How does stating that how (in my experience) it is not the worst it's ever been, get twisted into a defence of Ashley. Some folks on here are so blinded they see very contradictory point made as cause to bring out the pitchforks and lynchmob mentality. It's pathetic. Everything is always made one extreme or the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Shame Rangers Pack didn't catch a fatal case of pneumonia being a better fan than us in the 1970s in the cold and p*ss. OOOH that's nice, pretty sure if I posted similar I'd get banned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 My first game was in the 70's and I've seen some f***ing s**** over the last close on 40 years, but it's the fact that within recent memory that we were challenging for honours and we were playing champions league football that makes the current situation at the club so completely f***ing infuriating. Rangers Pack - you have to bear in mind that a massive percentage of our support simply aren't old enough to remember the way football in general was for most clubs. The fact that these 'youngsters' (f***ing hell) aren't prepared just to bend over and be shafted is a good thing. Aye we've been in worse situations, but not for a lot of our fans and their opinion is just as vital as anybody elses. I have some great memories of 20k crowds. The ground was delapidated, the football was s*** but the club felt like it belonged to us. I've never felt so aliented as a NUFC supporter as I do currently. All of that is down to one man. I agree with a lot of that BUT I do disagree that it's simply down to one man, IMO it's down to football itself. The game's a phony as far as real competition is concerned. Football has changed massively over the last 20 years and not necessarily for the better, but to not try to be the best the club can possibly be and try to offer some kind of reward to the fans that turn up despite the lack of a meaningful trophy since 1969 is unforgivable. And that's all down to one man. I agree, apart from the last bit, I happen to hope (admittedly this hope is about as reasonable as my yearly hope of winning something) that Ashley is playing the long game and the club is being built organically towards the point where, within its means (because that's the only way it'll happen, less a sale to an Arab prince) it will progress. I much prefer to maintain that hope than wallow in/see everything in the negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 My first game was in the 70's and I've seen some f***ing s**** over the last close on 40 years, but it's the fact that within recent memory that we were challenging for honours and we were playing champions league football that makes the current situation at the club so completely f***ing infuriating. Rangers Pack - you have to bear in mind that a massive percentage of our support simply aren't old enough to remember the way football in general was for most clubs. The fact that these 'youngsters' (f***ing hell) aren't prepared just to bend over and be shafted is a good thing. Aye we've been in worse situations, but not for a lot of our fans and their opinion is just as vital as anybody elses. I have some great memories of 20k crowds. The ground was delapidated, the football was s*** but the club felt like it belonged to us. I've never felt so aliented as a NUFC supporter as I do currently. All of that is down to one man. I agree with a lot of that BUT I do disagree that it's simply down to one man, IMO it's down to football itself. The game's a phony as far as real competition is concerned. Football has changed massively over the last 20 years and not necessarily for the better, but to not try to be the best the club can possibly be and try to offer some kind of reward to the fans that turn up despite the lack of a meaningful trophy since 1969 is unforgivable. And that's all down to one man. I agree, apart from the last bit, I happen to hope (admittedly this hope is about as reasonable as my yearly hope of winning something) that Ashley is playing the long game and the club is being built organically towards the point where, within its means (because that's the only way it'll happen, less a sale to an Arab prince) it will progress. I much prefer to maintain that hope than wallow in/see everything in the negative. He's such a lovely guy too. So worthy of your trust and hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flartyblartclart Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 My first game was in the 70's and I've seen some f***ing s**** over the last close on 40 years, but it's the fact that within recent memory that we were challenging for honours and we were playing champions league football that makes the current situation at the club so completely f***ing infuriating. Rangers Pack - you have to bear in mind that a massive percentage of our support simply aren't old enough to remember the way football in general was for most clubs. The fact that these 'youngsters' (f***ing hell) aren't prepared just to bend over and be shafted is a good thing. Aye we've been in worse situations, but not for a lot of our fans and their opinion is just as vital as anybody elses. I have some great memories of 20k crowds. The ground was delapidated, the football was s*** but the club felt like it belonged to us. I've never felt so aliented as a NUFC supporter as I do currently. All of that is down to one man. I agree with a lot of that BUT I do disagree that it's simply down to one man, IMO it's down to football itself. The game's a phony as far as real competition is concerned. Football has changed massively over the last 20 years and not necessarily for the better, but to not try to be the best the club can possibly be and try to offer some kind of reward to the fans that turn up despite the lack of a meaningful trophy since 1969 is unforgivable. And that's all down to one man. I agree, apart from the last bit, I happen to hope (admittedly this hope is about as reasonable as my yearly hope of winning something) that Ashley is playing the long game and the club is being built organically towards the point where, within its means (because that's the only way it'll happen, less a sale to an Arab prince) it will progress. I much prefer to maintain that hope than wallow in/see everything in the negative. But experience of Ashley points to the exact opposite of this? He treat 2 of the clubs legends like dirt and continues to hold the fans - his paying public - in utter disdain. He doesn't communicate with supporters, he employs yes men and lick arses. He admitted to purposefully lying to fans and press alike. The club is in limbo and will remain in limbo until he decides he's had enough. I dread to think the state the club will be in by that point. I already see more Man City and Chelsea shirts than ever in the region and that's fucking heartbreaking to anybody who has seen the potential this club has. Ashley has ruined that potential, sapped the club of all self worth and turned into a bill board for his shops. Once again, as a supporter, I have never felt like my support means so little to the owners of this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 The only reason we are loaning players out is to sell them in the future. If they perform well, they won't get near our team anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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