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[bobbydazzla]

  On 26/04/2015 at 00:45, Ketsbaia said:

Most of the fans who turn up have lost their right to complain about Ashley tbh. When the chance has come to take a stand, they're happy to just keep being sheep. They're complicit in all this. And when they turn up, they just silently sit on their hands making their presence totally irrelevant. Too many older fans are of that proud "it could be worse, i've stuck by much worse" attitude, like it's a badge of honour, while lots just see matchday as a checkpoint on getting away from the wife to get pissed with their mates. Enablers everywhere, just drifting along hoping it'll go away. Well it won't go away while these morons dominate our crowd.

 

Yet he really doesn't care if we shout a few things at him or hold some cards in the air - he loves that we hate him. That's why directly striking Sports Direct is the best way to make an impact. Negative PR, costing them money etc. Whatever gets Ashley to the point where he'd rather lose out on free advertising and eye-watering TV money, than risk his brand. Slowly, we might be able to do it.

 

 

 

This nails it for me.

 

The vast majority of people in the the ground are incapable and unwilling to drive any change.

 

And change at NUFC will only come when the reputation, revenue and share price of Sports Direct is threatened or actually starts to see negative results as a result of the activity of NUFC fans supported by national media. This football club is a small part of Ashley's empire, but it's the most visible and vocal.

 

He bought NUFC because of the increased press we could create for the SD brand. Let's turn that to our advantage and make sure that coverage is about zero hour contracts, dodgy pre-pack administrations etc . It's his achilles heel.

 

Until recently Tesco was an unstoppable retail business. But the tide has turned as shoppers move away and a number of scandals emerged. Tesco lost £6.4bn last year. The same could happen to Sports Direct, it's not impossible.

 

[Guest chopey]

Anyone on here know Len Blavnatnik could be worth sending him a text to see if he's interested in us

[Terrymac1966]

Ashleyout party anyone?

City centre during next home game.. party hats etc. 

[geordiesteve710]

  On 25/04/2015 at 23:40, Anderson said:

At this point I think I actually want to see us drop.

 

I feel like this now. When Hull scored to take the lead at Palace, my gut reaction was that puts us right in the shit. I then turned back to the game and thought well at least we'll be competitive down there. Stay up and we've got week after week of bang average teams knocking 3 or 4 past us every week before getting relegated anyway. Why not get it over and done with this year.

[mouldy_uk]

I'm as anti Ashley as anyone, but I really don't see what wanting relegation is going to get us. He's already stuck with us going down once before so what's going to be different this time. Plus the only realistic chance of getting rid of him is if a wealthy investor comes in and offers him plenty of money, which is surely less likely for a club not in the Premiership?

[Collage]

  On 26/04/2015 at 09:57, mouldy_uk said:

I'm as anti Ashley as anyone, but I really don't see what wanting relegation is going to get us. He's already stuck with us going down once before so what's going to be different this time. Plus the only realistic chance of getting rid of him is if a wealthy investor comes in and offers him plenty of money, which is surely less likely for a club not in the Premiership?

 

I agree.

[Mattoon]

  On 26/04/2015 at 09:57, mouldy_uk said:

I'm as anti Ashley as anyone, but I really don't see what wanting relegation is going to get us. He's already stuck with us going down once before so what's going to be different this time. Plus the only realistic chance of getting rid of him is if a wealthy investor comes in and offers him plenty of money, which is surely less likely for a club not in the Premiership?

 

I think it's less to do with Ashley going and more to do with the financial punishment he deserves watching his investment burn. If we went into free fall I think most would still be here to support the team no matter what league we were in. Ashley would eventually have to sell if we were out of sight of the Premier.

 

But aye, it'd be much easier if someone came in and bought us as a Premiership outfit.

[Guest chopey]

Ashley has no interest what so ever in the city of Newcastle and only a financial interest in Newcastle united. I could honestly punch Charnley in his smug f***ing face every time I see him and Carver has me more angry every time he speaks than I was with Pardew. If relegation gets rid of these horrible people then I'm all for it however I don't think it will.

[LoveItIfWeBeatU]

Relegation would be worse for the fans than it would be for Mike Ashley. Nufc is worth less than 10% of Mike Ashley's total worth. He'd probably be mildly annoyed if Nufc got relegated. It's all so needless. If he put a little effort in like paying for a good manager, qualified coaching staff and players he could have Nufc perform reasonably well within the break even budget. The £3m he sold Santon for is chicken feed to him. He recklessly endangers the club's Premiership status for relatively low sums of money. He likes to gamble but unfortunately for us his gambles are based on what is the least he can spend and still get away with.

 

If we get relegated our squad for the Championship (before any purchases) would be more or less the same as the current squad minus Krul, Janmaat, Cisse, Sissoko, Tiote, De Jong and one or two others. We'll end up keeping all the players we want rid of and losing the few good players we have.

[LV]

  On 26/04/2015 at 10:18, LoveItIfWeBeatU said:

Relegation would be worse for the fans than it would be for Mike Ashley. Nufc is worth less than 10% of Mike Ashley's total worth. He'd probably be mildly annoyed if Nufc got relegated. It's all so needless. If he put a little effort in like paying for a good manager, qualified coaching staff and players he could have Nufc perform reasonably well within the break even budget. The £3m he sold Santon for is chicken feed to him. He recklessly endangers the club's Premiership status for relatively low sums of money. He likes to gamble but unfortunately for us his gambles are based on what is the least he can spend and still get away with.

 

If we get relegated our squad for the Championship (before any purchases) would be more or less the same as the current squad minus Krul, Janmaat, Cisse, Sissoko, Tiote, De Jong and one or two others. We'll end up keeping all the players we want rid of and losing the few good players we have.

 

So what do we do? Just sit here and watch while Ashley milks the club for all it's worth while watching turgid, non-competitive 'football' on the pitch?

 

No ta.

[ToonTastic]

You think I'd be bothered with relegation? Not any more in may provide competition as they try to actually challenge for something. At worst we fall like a stone and it gets shot of Ashley.

[Guest neesy111]

  On 26/04/2015 at 10:37, ToonTastic said:

You think I'd be bothered with relegation? Not any more in may provide competition as they try to actually challenge for something. At worst we fall like a stone and it gets shot of Ashley.

 

 

Remember ashley will lose his ability to advertise Sports Direct if we are not in the PL which will be his biggest issue.

[Mattoon]

10% of his wealth? Maybe, but how much of his other 90% wealth is due to the free worldwide advertising he gets on prime time television? That won't happen in the Championship and that WILL hurt him by proxy.

[Guest chopey]

I hope this channel 4 documentary tomorrow rips him to shreads

[The Prophet]

I think Ashley could be approaching his end game i.e. strip the club including the first team to the absolute bare bones, rin it into the ground and then fuck off. He has history.

[Guest neesy111]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/11563435/How-fair-does-Sports-Direct-play.html

 

Dispatches 8pm tomorrow.

[Wallace]

I think relegation would be a disaster for NUFC but not for Ashley.  It would just be an irritation for him but whether it would push him into selling depends on what his intentions are and as ever, no-one has any idea about that and probably no-one at the club does either. 

 

I just cannot imagine what kind of team we would be able to put out next season as the best players would leave and if the ones we want to leave end up staying then I can't see us coming back up.  To have the right mentality for that league, they would have to look at British players and I can imagine clubs would hike their prices up for such players where we are concerned because everyone knows we have money in the bank.

 

The parachute payment would keep them going for a while but season ticket cancellations and a significant fall in attendances would certainly have more of a financial impact than in the Premier League and I do not expect they would get the same kind of attendances as they did when we were last relegated.

 

It could take years to recover but at a time when everyone else is moving further ahead, would we ever get back to where we were even a couple of years ago?

 

I lurch between wanting relegation and fearing it.  For Ashley, any losses are a drop in the ocean for him and as there is no emotional attachment to the club, if he decides to go, he won't care what he has left behind.

 

One thing is for certain, if it happens, I won't be upset like last time.  It will be down to the incompetence and arrogance of those running the club and it will serve themselves right.

 

 

 

[Wallace]

  On 26/04/2015 at 11:05, The Prophet said:

I think Ashley could be approaching his end game i.e. strip the club including the first team to the absolute bare bones, rin it into the ground and then f*** off. He has history.

 

I have always thought that.  The club is a shadow of what it was when he bought it.  He's sold off what he can and every area of the club is seriously under-resourced.  The only value the club seems to have now is the potential TV earnings.  He could also screw us on the commercial side depending on his conditions for a sale.  People talk about new owners having to invest in the squad but they will have to invest in the club's entire infrastructure as the current operation is barely holding together.

[loki679]

I'd rather be in a lower league trying to win something than in the 'best league in the world' as a zombie club only interested in suckling at Skys tit.

[Mattoon]

  On 26/04/2015 at 11:41, Wallace said:

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I think Ashley could be approaching his end game i.e. strip the club including the first team to the absolute bare bones, rin it into the ground and then f*** off. He has history.

 

I have always thought that.  The club is a shadow of what it was when he bought it.  He's sold off what he can and every area of the club is seriously under-resourced.  The only value the club seems to have now is the potential TV earnings.  He could also screw us on the commercial side depending on his conditions for a sale.  People talk about new owners having to invest in the squad but they will have to invest in the club's entire infrastructure as the current operation is barely holding together.

 

The one thing about him selling the club that bothers me is how deep his grubby little fingers go, it's not just a basic flat rate buys your the club and the debt you have to consider how much of the commercial side of it is his, how much he has outsourced to his own companies and how any new owners would go about getting all that back to rebuild the entire shitheap.

 

No one in their right mind would buy a club with Ashley still making money from shirt sales and advertising revenue. How much will all that cost??

[mrmojorisin75]

  On 26/04/2015 at 11:56, loki679 said:

I'd rather be in a lower league trying to win something than in the 'best league in the world' as a zombie club only interested in suckling at Skys tit.

 

don't like this zombie club reference that seems to be catching on

 

we're in a self-induced coma to allow a parasite to feed on us, granted it's not quite as catchy

[Slim]

  On 26/04/2015 at 10:01, Collage said:

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I'm as anti Ashley as anyone, but I really don't see what wanting relegation is going to get us. He's already stuck with us going down once before so what's going to be different this time. Plus the only realistic chance of getting rid of him is if a wealthy investor comes in and offers him plenty of money, which is surely less likely for a club not in the Premiership?

 

I agree.

 

I want to go down to League 2 though

[Thomson Mouse]

  On 26/04/2015 at 11:35, Wallace said:

I think relegation would be a disaster for NUFC but not for Ashley.  It would just be an irritation for him but whether it would push him into selling depends on what his intentions are and as ever, no-one has any idea about that and probably no-one at the club does either. 

 

I just cannot imagine what kind of team we would be able to put out next season as the best players would leave and if the ones we want to leave end up staying then I can't see us coming back up.  To have the right mentality for that league, they would have to look at British players and I can imagine clubs would hike their prices up for such players where we are concerned because everyone knows we have money in the bank.

 

The parachute payment would keep them going for a while but season ticket cancellations and a significant fall in attendances would certainly have more of a financial impact than in the Premier League and I do not expect they would get the same kind of attendances as they did when we were last relegated.

 

It could take years to recover but at a time when everyone else is moving further ahead, would we ever get back to where we were even a couple of years ago?

 

I lurch between wanting relegation and fearing it.  For Ashley, any losses are a drop in the ocean for him and as there is no emotional attachment to the club, if he decides to go, he won't care what he has left behind.

 

One thing is for certain, if it happens, I won't be upset like last time.  It will be down to the incompetence and arrogance of those running the club and it will serve themselves right.

 

 

 

 

The club may suffer for a long time but quite honestly I'm so disillusioned with footy at the moment I couldn't care less.

What's the point in being in the premier league anyway? Unless you're owned by a billionaire who is going to splash the cash the chances of getting even a champion league place are virtually nil. Everyone else just picks up the pieces and prays for a cup upset, not the existence I could tolerate for much longer.

 

If you go down at least you could have a club for the fans once he's left. A team that cares and the ups and downs that go with it, not knowing what the season will bring and meeting some decent clubs and people along the way.

Look at FC Manchester for example, that's what I could get behind - a club run be fans for everyone.

 

[Teasy]

But you'd be in a league where the only aim is to get into another league that you don't want to be in anyway.  As shallow as the Premier League has become I'd still rather be there than in the Championship, all we really want is rid of Ashley.  The only question is does being out of the Premier League get rid of Ashley?, I'm not confident it would.

[mrmojorisin75]

  On 26/04/2015 at 15:39, Teasy said:

But you'd be in a league where the only aim is to get into another league that you don't want to be in anyway.  As shallow as the Premier League has become I'd still rather be there than in the Championship, all we really want is rid of Ashley.  The only question is does being out of the Premier League get rid of Ashley?, I'm not confident it would.

 

going down should be the last resort as at least if you're in it and trying to compete you have a theoretical advantage over 72 other clubs to be able to try and win a cup, something we should never turn our nose up at I reckon

 

going down somehow feels like the best thing for the club in its present state mind, it need decimating and rebuilding regardless of the division