Anderson Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Meh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 It's always been about the journey with Southgate's England so, whether you like him or not, it makes total sense to provide clarity and a certainty that he's the manager for the foreseeable; reaffirming that sense of this being a long game. Instability going into the World Cup wouldn't help anyone. We're not wedded to the prospect, either. If the team performs badly or even just underachieves in Qatar, they'll probably just sack him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Think he’s done well enough at the previous two tournaments to fail hard in Qatar and still get the Euros in 2024 tbh. Not everyone will be pleased because he’s pragmatic but he’s shown signs of wanting to change that a bit since the Euros imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 We’ve already achieved nearly as much as any national team can possibly achieve. We could win a tournament, but that might come down to a single performance or a single incident more than the manager. It’s a weird job being a national coach, he seems quite good at it. He’s certainly transformed the England brand and the culture around the team, which was absolutely awful before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: We’ve already achieved nearly as much as any national team can possibly achieve. We could win a tournament, but that might come down to a single performance or a single incident more than the manager. It’s a weird job being a national coach, he seems quite good at it. He’s certainly transformed the England brand and the culture around the team, which was absolutely awful before. He has also been somewhat fortunate with the players he has at his disposable. Previous England squads have had plenty of complete arseholes and mercenaries, such as the John Terrys and the Ashley Coles etc. They were never out of the headlines, for the wrong reasons constantly. Southgate seems to have a squad of model professionals like himself, in comparison to (for example) the team that Sven had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Guess the reason he has such model pros is also because of the cultural and structural change in English football - also why they had to pick someone like him for manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Klaus said: He has also been somewhat fortunate with the players he has at his disposable. Previous England squads have had plenty of complete arseholes and mercenaries, such as the John Terrys and the Ashley Coles etc. They were never out of the headlines, for the wrong reasons constantly. Southgate seems to have a squad of model professionals like himself, in comparison to (for example) the team that Sven had. Could be argued there still are arseholes but he has managed them, or not included them even. He is hugely responsible for the feel good factor at the camps and therefore in the squad and team. Think he's done a pretty great job. Just needs the rub of the green and the team, a little more big game experience. Which they have now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Poor decision, but unsurprising. We’ll win fuck all with him in charge, which will be a complete travesty with the talent at our disposal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Shouldn't have given him the contract until after the WC, if we do well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Poor decision, but unsurprising. We’ll win fuck all with him in charge, which will be a complete travesty with the talent at our disposal. A bit like Martinez. He gets accused of underachieving but Southgate never seems to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Poor decision, but unsurprising. We’ll win fuck all with him in charge, which will be a complete travesty with the talent at our disposal. Couldn’t agree more, he’s lucked his way into a semi final at the World Cup and then cost us the win in the euro final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Southgate has been the best fit I've seen for England in my lifetime. A World Cup semi and a Euro final is a fantastic achievement and he's undoubtedly earned a shot at World Cup 2022. However, tactically he's not top bracket and we're often exposed when he comes up against someone who is. Again, he's earned the right learn, as he has done throughout his tenure, but I think he'll struggle again against the likes of Mancini and Enrique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 He's a good fit inso far as he's a compliant FA bootlicker who won't rock the boat and gets an easy ride from the media because he dresses well and is a nice guy. Maybe that's what's needed at international level these days - especially in this country - but either way, I'm pleased he won't be managing this club any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Draw for the next round of the nations league just got drawn for anyone who gives a flying fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 54 said: Draw for the next round of the nations league just got drawn for anyone who gives a flying fuck. Tough draw for England (I give a fuck), but we shouldn’t fear anyone. Be some class games hopefully. Every group looks strong/tough. Edited December 16, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I love the NL. Will probably go to Germany away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, bowlingcrofty said: I love the NL. Will probably go to Germany away. I think it’s more open than regular international footy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Apparently all 10 South American teams are going to join the Nations League after the next round, and they'll all be player in Europe still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Awful. Get them over to La Paz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 I don't think I'm ever going to understand the Nations League. Granted, I haven't even tried to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 latest England squad: looking at the CB options, think Burn is unlucky to miss out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Maguire must have dodgy pics of Southgate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Mings over Burn ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) Maguire and Mings Yeah I think Dan Burn deserves a call looking at that Edited March 17, 2022 by Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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