Rich Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 In talks with Liverpool over a potential return to the club here. Whether it's a loan or permanent deal, i have no idea. Strange one this, he was part of the problem of being relegated but with proper coaching who knows what would have happened. Ideal no.10, Perez to play more of a forward role this season. He can finish if given chances.. Loves Tribal Football this lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 He's absolute shite and an arsehole. Wouldn't touch with a bargepole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Kyboshed by the Shields Gazette unsurprisingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I’m sure he’d benefit from having Shelvey and Qi/Diame behind him rather than Colback and Anita. One of my favourite goals in a long while was one of Shelvey’s early games where he pinged one 60 yards to Janmaat, Gini was straight away on his bike into the box and finishing off a great cross. Thought we were on to something for a brief few games anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Hes better than what we have for that position but it would feel a bit underwhelming. Has he scored an away goal in the league yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 He's absolute shite and an arsehole. Wouldn't touch with a bargepole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 why is this even a thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Yet anothet example of lazy journalism!! Winaldum cat get a guaranteed place in first team so they speculate that we might bring him back. Same with Townsend but at least he didn't go missing in away games!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Odin just posted this then never posted again In talks with Liverpool over a potential return to the club here. Whether it's a loan or permanent deal, i have no idea. Strange one this, he was part of the problem of being relegated but with proper coaching who knows what would have happened. Ideal no.10, Perez to play more of a forward role this season. He can finish if given chances.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 This was his goals record in 2015/2016 : August 1 vs Southampton at home - 2-2 draw, scored to make us 2-1 up then we conceded (Televised 1.30pm kickoff) September 1 vs Chelsea at home - 2-2 draw, scored to make us 2-0 up then we conceded 2 (Televised 5.30pm kickoff) October 4 vs Norwhich - 6-2 win, rout of a team that played completely kamikaze football (Televised 4.00pm kickoff) December 1 vs Liverpool - 2-0 win, second goal scored in injury time of the second half (Televised 4.00pm kickoff) January 1 vs Manchester United - 3-3 draw, scored the first goal of a 0-3 to 3-3 comeback (Televised 7.45pm kickoff) 1 vs West Ham United - 2-1 win, scored the second to put us 2-0 up before they got one back (Not televised) May 2 vs Tottenham Hotspur - 5-1 win, scored the first and a penalty against a team already on holiday (Not televised?) I don't see how you can analyse the above in any way apart from that he turned up when we were on TV so he got showcase his 'talents'. At best his goals counted for 5 points - the 2 draws at the start of the season, and what ended up being the winning goal vs West Ham. He only scored one of his 11 goals when we were already down, and that was against Manchester United everyone thought it was a lost cause at 0-3. Assists? Shelvey and Mitro both had 5 too, he was hardly the team's sole creative outlet. He couldn't be bothered to raise his game and put 10% more in for one of the best managers we've had in the last 30 years. Why anyone would want him back after seeing him 'perform' in a black and white shirt already is mind boggling. The purest definition of a player treating a club as a stepping stone as I've ever seen, he really did not care at all and we could have done without him for another player that may have actually done more for us in terms of points won than individual goals records scored when it didn't matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 God bless you HawK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 This was his goals record in 2015/2016 : August 1 vs Southampton at home - 2-2 draw, scored to make us 2-1 up then we conceded (Televised 1.30pm kickoff) September 1 vs Chelsea at home - 2-2 draw, scored to make us 2-0 up then we conceded 2 (Televised 5.30pm kickoff) October 4 vs Norwhich - 6-2 win, rout of a team that played completely kamikaze football (Televised 4.00pm kickoff) December 1 vs Liverpool - 2-0 win, second goal scored in injury time of the second half (Televised 4.00pm kickoff) January 1 vs Manchester United - 3-3 draw, scored the first goal of a 0-3 to 3-3 comeback (Televised 7.45pm kickoff) 1 vs West Ham United - 2-1 win, scored the second to put us 2-0 up before they got one back (Not televised) May 2 vs Tottenham Hotspur - 5-1 win, scored the first and a penalty against a team already on holiday (Not televised?) I don't see how you can analyse the above in any way apart from that he turned up when we were on TV so he got showcase his 'talents'. At best his goals counted for 5 points - the 2 draws at the start of the season, and what ended up being the winning goal vs West Ham. He only scored one of his 11 goals when we were already down, and that was against Manchester United everyone thought it was a lost cause at 0-3. Assists? Shelvey and Mitro both had 5 too, he was hardly the team's sole creative outlet. He couldn't be bothered to raise his game and put 10% more in for one of the best managers we've had in the last 30 years. Why anyone would want him back after seeing him 'perform' in a black and white shirt already is mind boggling. The purest definition of a player treating a club as a stepping stone as I've ever seen, he really did not care at all and we could have done without him for another player that may have actually done more for us in terms of points won than individual goals records scored when it didn't matter. I get where you're coming from, but as a loan I would be willing to take a crack at it if we could get 11 goals from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Not a fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Just take Kane’s Golden Boot from him. He’s only won it because Panama couldn’t defend corners properly and one going in that he didn’t have a clue about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 This was his goals record in 2015/2016 : August 1 vs Southampton at home - 2-2 draw, scored to make us 2-1 up then we conceded (Televised 1.30pm kickoff) September 1 vs Chelsea at home - 2-2 draw, scored to make us 2-0 up then we conceded 2 (Televised 5.30pm kickoff) October 4 vs Norwhich - 6-2 win, rout of a team that played completely kamikaze football (Televised 4.00pm kickoff) December 1 vs Liverpool - 2-0 win, second goal scored in injury time of the second half (Televised 4.00pm kickoff) January 1 vs Manchester United - 3-3 draw, scored the first goal of a 0-3 to 3-3 comeback (Televised 7.45pm kickoff) 1 vs West Ham United - 2-1 win, scored the second to put us 2-0 up before they got one back (Not televised) May 2 vs Tottenham Hotspur - 5-1 win, scored the first and a penalty against a team already on holiday (Not televised?) I don't see how you can analyse the above in any way apart from that he turned up when we were on TV so he got showcase his 'talents'. At best his goals counted for 5 points - the 2 draws at the start of the season, and what ended up being the winning goal vs West Ham. He only scored one of his 11 goals when we were already down, and that was against Manchester United everyone thought it was a lost cause at 0-3. Assists? Shelvey and Mitro both had 5 too, he was hardly the team's sole creative outlet. He couldn't be bothered to raise his game and put 10% more in for one of the best managers we've had in the last 30 years. Why anyone would want him back after seeing him 'perform' in a black and white shirt already is mind boggling. The purest definition of a player treating a club as a stepping stone as I've ever seen, he really did not care at all and we could have done without him for another player that may have actually done more for us in terms of points won than individual goals records scored when it didn't matter. It wasn't. We were 0-2 down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Thanks for the corrections, did my best to rustle up what I could. I think my points still stand though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Was just OCD. I agree with you fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 He was an absolute disgrace like, I absolutely despise the bloke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 He might have scored 11 goals but we probably conceded 11 extra goals that season as he was missing in action for the majority of it. No away goals. Didn't he have something ridiculous like 10 touches of the ball in a game for us or something? I'd be pretty shocked if Rafa is interested in bringing him back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 What on earth is this nonsense? If any of it is even true (I'm guessing it's not) I wouldn't want him back. Can't doubt the ability but absolutely no character. Being a role player for Liverpool is completely different to being one of the most technically gifted in our team and as such, needing to lead by example, something he didn't do a jot of when we got relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 He hid while here, doubt we're really in for him anyway, just his agent shopping him around probably Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cronky Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Good athlete, but a very ordinary footballer. He was a big disappointment and I can't see that anything would have changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 You just know Ryder had to Google how to spell Fenerbahce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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