Unbelievable Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Can barely believe some of the comments in here. Guy was first choice midfield player for a WC semi finalist four years ago, was sold by us for 25m two years back, contested in a Champions League final barely two months ago and at 27 is just hitting his prime, yet some wouldn’t have him back on a free. Rumour is nonsense of course, and he’s no world beater by any measure, but we’ll do very well to sign better players than him this summer imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 He's improved a lot under Klopp. Think he'd improve us, played consistently for them last season. He hasn't improved man. Milner jumped him in midfield as did Ox when he came in. There's a reason Klopp has gone and bought two central midfielders as soon as the season's ended. This guy is not good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Yeah. It's fine not to want him because of the circumstances last time, but to say he's shite is a different matter. Wasn't he a fairly important player for Klopp? I suppose with Fabinho and Keita coming in, someone has to go and he's maybe decided it's Wijnaldum and Can. But a better team will sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Yeah. It's fine not to want him because of the circumstances last time, but to say he's shite is a different matter. Wasn't he a fairly important player for Klopp? I suppose with Fabinho and Keita coming in, someone has to go and he's maybe decided it's Wijnaldum and Can. But a better team will sign him. No he was not important man! The midfield was Hendo, Milner and Ox. He really only played when he first came in and then once he was sussed he only played when everyone else was injured. This is killing me guys. He isn't good. We played him at number 10 and he didn't produce. Tried him wide and he didn't produce, played him in central midfield and he didn't produce. He never did anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Apart from 11 goals and 5 assists Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 We could do with 11 goals from midfield next season like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 We could do with 11 goals from midfield next season like. It'd be nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Man, you guys are incredible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Would love him back. He wasn't used to his potential at Liverpool although understandable considering their other players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Man, you guys are incredible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 If Rafa wants him back I'm all for it. I don't understand why so many people get upset by plauyers we're linked with. Surely if Rafa wants them that should be good enough for us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 If Rafa wants him back I'm all for it. I don't understand why so many people get upset by plauyers we're linked with. Surely if Rafa wants them that should be good enough for us? Is the correct answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 In talks with Liverpool over a potential return to the club here. Whether it's a loan or permanent deal, i have no idea. Strange one this, he was part of the problem of being relegated but with proper coaching who knows what would have happened. Ideal no.10, Perez to play more of a forward role this season. He can finish if given chances.. Loves Tribal Football this lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 He's absolute shite and an arsehole. Wouldn't touch with a bargepole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Kyboshed by the Shields Gazette unsurprisingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I’m sure he’d benefit from having Shelvey and Qi/Diame behind him rather than Colback and Anita. One of my favourite goals in a long while was one of Shelvey’s early games where he pinged one 60 yards to Janmaat, Gini was straight away on his bike into the box and finishing off a great cross. Thought we were on to something for a brief few games anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Hes better than what we have for that position but it would feel a bit underwhelming. Has he scored an away goal in the league yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 He's absolute shite and an arsehole. Wouldn't touch with a bargepole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 why is this even a thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Yet anothet example of lazy journalism!! Winaldum cat get a guaranteed place in first team so they speculate that we might bring him back. Same with Townsend but at least he didn't go missing in away games!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Odin just posted this then never posted again In talks with Liverpool over a potential return to the club here. Whether it's a loan or permanent deal, i have no idea. Strange one this, he was part of the problem of being relegated but with proper coaching who knows what would have happened. Ideal no.10, Perez to play more of a forward role this season. He can finish if given chances.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 This was his goals record in 2015/2016 : August 1 vs Southampton at home - 2-2 draw, scored to make us 2-1 up then we conceded (Televised 1.30pm kickoff) September 1 vs Chelsea at home - 2-2 draw, scored to make us 2-0 up then we conceded 2 (Televised 5.30pm kickoff) October 4 vs Norwhich - 6-2 win, rout of a team that played completely kamikaze football (Televised 4.00pm kickoff) December 1 vs Liverpool - 2-0 win, second goal scored in injury time of the second half (Televised 4.00pm kickoff) January 1 vs Manchester United - 3-3 draw, scored the first goal of a 0-3 to 3-3 comeback (Televised 7.45pm kickoff) 1 vs West Ham United - 2-1 win, scored the second to put us 2-0 up before they got one back (Not televised) May 2 vs Tottenham Hotspur - 5-1 win, scored the first and a penalty against a team already on holiday (Not televised?) I don't see how you can analyse the above in any way apart from that he turned up when we were on TV so he got showcase his 'talents'. At best his goals counted for 5 points - the 2 draws at the start of the season, and what ended up being the winning goal vs West Ham. He only scored one of his 11 goals when we were already down, and that was against Manchester United everyone thought it was a lost cause at 0-3. Assists? Shelvey and Mitro both had 5 too, he was hardly the team's sole creative outlet. He couldn't be bothered to raise his game and put 10% more in for one of the best managers we've had in the last 30 years. Why anyone would want him back after seeing him 'perform' in a black and white shirt already is mind boggling. The purest definition of a player treating a club as a stepping stone as I've ever seen, he really did not care at all and we could have done without him for another player that may have actually done more for us in terms of points won than individual goals records scored when it didn't matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 God bless you HawK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 This was his goals record in 2015/2016 : August 1 vs Southampton at home - 2-2 draw, scored to make us 2-1 up then we conceded (Televised 1.30pm kickoff) September 1 vs Chelsea at home - 2-2 draw, scored to make us 2-0 up then we conceded 2 (Televised 5.30pm kickoff) October 4 vs Norwhich - 6-2 win, rout of a team that played completely kamikaze football (Televised 4.00pm kickoff) December 1 vs Liverpool - 2-0 win, second goal scored in injury time of the second half (Televised 4.00pm kickoff) January 1 vs Manchester United - 3-3 draw, scored the first goal of a 0-3 to 3-3 comeback (Televised 7.45pm kickoff) 1 vs West Ham United - 2-1 win, scored the second to put us 2-0 up before they got one back (Not televised) May 2 vs Tottenham Hotspur - 5-1 win, scored the first and a penalty against a team already on holiday (Not televised?) I don't see how you can analyse the above in any way apart from that he turned up when we were on TV so he got showcase his 'talents'. At best his goals counted for 5 points - the 2 draws at the start of the season, and what ended up being the winning goal vs West Ham. He only scored one of his 11 goals when we were already down, and that was against Manchester United everyone thought it was a lost cause at 0-3. Assists? Shelvey and Mitro both had 5 too, he was hardly the team's sole creative outlet. He couldn't be bothered to raise his game and put 10% more in for one of the best managers we've had in the last 30 years. Why anyone would want him back after seeing him 'perform' in a black and white shirt already is mind boggling. The purest definition of a player treating a club as a stepping stone as I've ever seen, he really did not care at all and we could have done without him for another player that may have actually done more for us in terms of points won than individual goals records scored when it didn't matter. I get where you're coming from, but as a loan I would be willing to take a crack at it if we could get 11 goals from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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