Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Benítez is often cautious to a fault. He knew what he was doing, no injury, next round, next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Since returning from injury just 4 weeks ago hes completed 6 PL games and Rafa wanted him to play a 7th? I think he’s the only player to have played every minute of the Xma fixtures. Should’ve been rested. And given a few days holiday. He shouldn’t have been in the squad. Yeah, but he’s Rafa Benítez, and you have no professional footballing experience. When Lascelles went off we were loads more vulnerable and you’d have been Captain Hindsight if he hadn’t been in the squad and we’d lost. I’m allowed to have a difference of opinion. If we can’t bat Luton Town without Lascelles In he FA Cup it’s even more imperative that he’s rested. This lad gets injured for 3 months - based on last time - we are relegated. It’s not worth the risk. Of course you can have different opinions, but you can’t elevate yours above his when he has f*** loads of primary information on the player, his training, health etc. All you have is how many hours played so far and statistical information on how we’re better when he plays as opposed to when he doesn’t. Our team is short of leaders and Lascelles happens to be our only one. If Rafa sees fit to play him for every game I’ll back him over some keyboard warriors who think they know better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Seeing as they "battered" us in the second half without him, maybe it was worth the risk to play him in the first to ensure the win? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I would have played him, he obv wasnt a problem with him before the match rafa aint no fool. people have to remember shit happens in football sometimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Seeing as they "battered" us in the second half without him, maybe it was worth the risk to play him in the first to ensure the win? If they were battering us then I would say that was the fault of the 6 players ahead of the defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Interesting that he went off as soon as we scored. Premeditated maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I honestly think this lad is going to end up as one of my favourite ever players at this rate. His attitude at his age in the country is remarkable, does and days everything right. Remember the days when we'd literally think nothing of Bramble on rape accusations, Barton playing for us while murdering people or our own players beating fuck out of each other on the pitch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Interesting that he went off as soon as we scored. Premeditated maybe? Would have thought so. Probably had a niggle beforehand and the staff made the call as we had the lead and the match presumably looked winnable without him by that point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I was completely convinced we’d be relegated by about half 3 like, was absolutely devastated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I find him very likeable and he's so integral to our team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I would have played him, he obv wasnt a problem with him before the match rafa aint no fool. people have to remember s*** happens in football sometimes Eh! Are you saying that thinking he should have been rested, to avoid an unpredictable injury, is forgetting that unpredictable injuries happen in football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Interesting that he went off as soon as we scored. Premeditated maybe? Would have thought so. Probably had a niggle beforehand and the staff made the call as we had the lead and the match presumably looked winnable without him by that point. If that's the case, I can understand why some people are concerned that he started, not a fan of playing someone who isn't 100% myself. But then as said previously, Rafa is so cautious with rotation when it comes to match fitness, I can't think he would have risked Lascelles unless the player himself said he was ok. Maybe as soon as he felt it, he signalled to come off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Interesting that he went off as soon as we scored. Premeditated maybe? Would have thought so. Probably had a niggle beforehand and the staff made the call as we had the lead and the match presumably looked winnable without him by that point. If that's the case, I can understand why some people are concerned that he started, not a fan of playing someone who isn't 100% myself. But then as said previously, Rafa is so cautious with rotation when it comes to match fitness, I can't think he would have risked Lascelles unless the player himself said he was ok. Maybe as soon as he felt it, he signalled to come off. By this point in the season I'd imagine very few players will go into games truly 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Rafa doesn’t seem particular cautious with rotation when it comes to Lascelles mind. Played him consistently through injury last season. If I’m not mistaken, he was the only player to play all of the Christmas fixtures and to start today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Rafa doesn’t seem particular cautious with rotation when it comes to Lascelles mind. Played him consistently through injury last season. If I’m not mistaken, he was the only player to play all of the Christmas fixtures and to start today. Cos he is our best defender and captain.we are shite without him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Rafa doesn’t seem particular cautious with rotation when it comes to Lascelles mind. Played him consistently through injury last season. If I’m not mistaken, he was the only player to play all of the Christmas fixtures and to start today. Cos he is our best defender and captain.we are s**** without him Also - if we cannot best Luton without him. That further reason for him NOT being risked. The positives don’t outweigh the risk. Let’s minimise the chances of him being injured for PL opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Posted this in the photo thread earlier, but I love this banner of him Must feel mental for the lad, he's on his way to legend status here due to his braveness on & off the pitch in the last few years. http://i64.tinypic.com/wjweh0.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 The Journo's said he looked injured but he runs off like its a late substitution and we're looking for a goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 A lot of times you see managers pick lesser teams in the cups, but our manager named a strong one,” Newcastle captain explained. “He said to me before the game: ‘We want to go out there and win and see how far we can get.’ “It’s not like the Championship when you are playing Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday, Tuesday. You usually only play once a week in the Premier League, so it’s not as if you need to rest players. “The players are happy with that - we want to play. He didn’t have to rest anyone because we don’t have another game for a week. “In the past some players may have looked to have this weekend off after the busy period. It certainly wouldn’t happen now. Everybody wants to play and is pleased to be picked - that wasn’t always the case. “We have a good group of lads here and everyone wants the same thing. We all work hard and we are friends on and off the pitch, as you can tell from the football we try to play. “OK, results haven’t always gone great for us recently but at the same time we are playing good football. Not many teams score too many goals past us.” “Yes, it’s something I would love to do. That would be a dream come true for me,” the 24-year-old replied when asked if he ever thought of winning a trophy with Newcastle. “I lifted the Championship trophy last season and would love to lift the Cup. It will be tough. A lot of teams want to win it and will fancy their chances. “But you never know - we could get another lower-league team at home in the next round and who know what happens after that.” “I’m fine. I felt it go a little bit and took no chances. I just wanted to make sure we won. I’m fine for next week,” Lascelles added. “It’s nothing really and I’ll be training Tuesday. I felt it a bit and didn’t want to make it worse. I think I made the right decision to come off and get it right for Swansea.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Love this bloke. Becoming a little bit of a club icon and deservedly so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 A lot of times you see managers pick lesser teams in the cups, but our manager named a strong one,” Newcastle captain explained. “He said to me before the game: ‘We want to go out there and win and see how far we can get.’ “It’s not like the Championship when you are playing Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday, Tuesday. You usually only play once a week in the Premier League, so it’s not as if you need to rest players. “The players are happy with that - we want to play. He didn’t have to rest anyone because we don’t have another game for a week. “In the past some players may have looked to have this weekend off after the busy period. It certainly wouldn’t happen now. Everybody wants to play and is pleased to be picked - that wasn’t always the case. “We have a good group of lads here and everyone wants the same thing. We all work hard and we are friends on and off the pitch, as you can tell from the football we try to play. “OK, results haven’t always gone great for us recently but at the same time we are playing good football. Not many teams score too many goals past us.” “Yes, it’s something I would love to do. That would be a dream come true for me,” the 24-year-old replied when asked if he ever thought of winning a trophy with Newcastle. “I lifted the Championship trophy last season and would love to lift the Cup. It will be tough. A lot of teams want to win it and will fancy their chances. “But you never know - we could get another lower-league team at home in the next round and who know what happens after that.” “I’m fine. I felt it go a little bit and took no chances. I just wanted to make sure we won. I’m fine for next week,” Lascelles added. “It’s nothing really and I’ll be training Tuesday. I felt it a bit and didn’t want to make it worse. I think I made the right decision to come off and get it right for Swansea.” Wonder what all the wannebe-Pardews on here make of that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Love this bloke. Becoming a little bit of a club icon and deservedly so. Like someone said the other day he's the perfect Robin to Rafa's Batman and represents the sea of change in attitudes of our players. They may not be that good but they all want to be here and they all want to play every match, not one in 6 or just at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Bet Colo was one of the players who always sought 3rd round weekend off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Bet Colo was one of the players who always sought 3rd round weekend off. I gradually think worse of Colo as Lascelles progresses. What a shithouse captain and leader he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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