loki679 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Are the U21s really that much of a distraction? Doing cartwheels and playing top trumps at the edge of the pitch or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Supposedly he did the same thing when Liverpool manager, not sure the reasoning behind it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Then missing an open goal header against Villa... Ah, yes! But he was in the right position for it right! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 They say that the training ground is not that big compared to other Premier League clubs and he wants to concentrate on those players that will be involved in the next few games so maybe their presence is an unwanted distraction. He probably can't believe how they are being coached so out of sight, out of mind and something to worry about in the future if he is still here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Supposedly he did the same thing when Liverpool manager, not sure the reasoning behind it. I suspect it's so the younger players cannot be in the way / a distraction and the players can be gathered in which ever the part of the facilities they need to be in. For example, in the gym area it means everything is available and none of the bairns are on the equipment. Balls flying across the pitch during drills, etc due to misplaced passes. Another theory is that he's kicking arse a bit and doesn't want any of it getting back / out and / or demotivating the kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Players getting distracted by kids? I thought that was the mackems' gimmick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Players getting distracted by kids? I thought that was the mackems' gimmick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Considering how he revamped the youth system when he was at Liverpool i doubt he hates the kids It's whatever IMO, do whatever you gotta do to make sure you stay up. That's all that matters right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Don't want to question his motives. The club is a mess from top to bottom. Let Rafa try and use his experience and try to fix it within the time he is here. If it doesn't work out and we get relegated, the club can start to fuck themselves again and I couldn't care less then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I believe he's doing it for the right reasons like... just to be clear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom2 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Considering how he revamped the youth system when he was at Liverpool i doubt he hates the kids It's whatever IMO, do whatever you gotta do to make sure you stay up. That's all that matters right now. He did revamp the youth system which was, at the time, run by Steve Heighway. We have The Academy at Liverpool which was built purposely in a different part of the area, so as to keep all youth teams learning and training together, and Melwood was kept solely for the training of the first team. The Academy covers 56 acres and houses full size pitches, smaller pitches and indoor pitches. It actually covers everything a youth training centre should have from academic classes to sports classes. Once Rafa took it over he brought in top coaches to train the players in the way he wanted them to play in the first team. Every level was taught to play in the same way so that they could step up when needed without a lot of adjustment. He wanted a stand built at The Academy so that supporters could come and watch the team and build a bond with the youths, that one never came to fruition unfortunately. He would invite promising youths to train at Melwood with the senior teams for a week, which was good for the youngsters esteem, maybe that's what he wants at Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 How many of our players are off for international duty? Glad that he has most of the squad with him for 2 weeks. Just three isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 How many of our players are off for international duty? Glad that he has most of the squad with him for 2 weeks. Just three isn't it? Excluding Janmaat now so Gini, Sissoko and Mitro? Am I right? Hope he and the players can really prepare for the final run in now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Supposedly he did the same thing when Liverpool manager, not sure the reasoning behind it. I think it's cos he does a lot of game-specific preparation (certainly he does for important games). Not a whole lot of benefit for the kids in preparing for games they ain't going to be playing in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 How many of our players are off for international duty? Glad that he has most of the squad with him for 2 weeks. Just three isn't it? Excluding Janmaat now so Gini, Sissoko and Mitro? Am I right? Hope he and the players can really prepare for the final run in now. Think Rob Elliott is in our squad too, not 100% on that though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 How many of our players are off for international duty? Glad that he has most of the squad with him for 2 weeks. Just three isn't it? Excluding Janmaat now so Gini, Sissoko and Mitro? Am I right? Hope he and the players can really prepare for the final run in now. Think Rob Elliott is in our squad too, not 100% on that though You're right. Elliot is away with Ireland and Aarons is with England U21's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 How many of our players are off for international duty? Glad that he has most of the squad with him for 2 weeks. Just three isn't it? Excluding Janmaat now so Gini, Sissoko and Mitro? Am I right? Hope he and the players can really prepare for the final run in now. I doubt Mitrovic will be going away if he has to get his head checked this week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Serbia playing in Poland tonite. Should know whether he is there or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Pool fan here. I come in peace. I am a bit of a Rafa fan and thought would share my views on positives and negatives of Rafa. Style of Play: Functional. Hates loosing more than loves winning. Players will be drilled, day in day out. You will have the best defense seen at the club for ages. It can grate fans who like the attacking style of football but I can guarantee one thing - Newcastle United will never let the fans down in terms of effort. He will demand every player to cover every blade of grass 10 times over in each game. Once his tactics take shape, expect Newcastle to suffocate the opposition. One of the reasons he is unpopular in the media is that he never bows down to others. His attitude towards Mourinho "F*** you", towards Ferguson " F*** you", towards Allardyc " F*** F*** F*** you". You will go to Nou Camp, Madrid, San Siro and play with the "F** you we are Geordies, this is how we play attitude". His Valencia and Liverpool teams never bowed to anyone. Ayala used to say about how Rafa wanted him to kick players in the shower and create fights in the dressing room when someone was giving less than 100%. Expect the same at Newcastle. Player management: He is not the best at managing egos. He views each player as a chess piece. If he believes the team performance improves after drinking tea which Alan Shearer makes, he will ask Alan Shearer to make tea. He is all about drills. Players come in repeat the drills over and over again till it becomes second nature. He is from the Sacchi school than Cryuff. Attention to details: Obsessive. He will spend hours analyzing every bit of detail about the opposition. Stop him on the street and ask about next weeks game, he will be able to recite the height and weight of all opposition players from memory. He will give you 400%. When he got fired from Inter he started coaching the U 10 or U 8 football team his daughters played for, and apparently parents got bewildered when he stood at the sidelines and started shouting at 8 year old girls for not following his instruction. Relationship with owners: Not the best at maintaining relationship with owners. Frequently gets into fights. Relationship with fans: Dont listen to the media who portray him as a cold person. You will love him. He embraces the city, the culture and when you loose you can see the hurt in his eyes. He will give you his everything. Him and his wife Montse Benitez are wonderful human beings who will do a lot for charity. When he left he gave the HJC a check for $96000. I know he makes millions but having the presence of mind to pick that number shows everything about him. Other incidents: Google for Montse Benitez charities. She and Rafa have done a lot. Tranfers: A bit of a mixed bag. His transfers initially were brilliant. He loves choir boys than mavericks. But when he gets it right, he really gets it right - Alonso, Torres, Mascherano, Reina. The right type of players love him. "Barcelona defender Javier Mascherano has expressed his gratitude to Rafa Benitez and feels the Real Madrid coach saved his career. Mascherano has not forgotten about his former mentor and has stressed he will always be grateful to Benitez. He's a great man, and a diligent and excellent coach," Mascherano told La Gazzetta dello Sport. "Former Liverpool striker Fernando Torres has thanked Rafa Benitez for helping him to a reach a level he never expected to hit." Bellamy: "I have gone on record recently and I will say it again now that I have learnt more from Rafael Benitez than any other coach I have worked with. I am a much better player for the time I've spent working with him and if I do go on to manage at some point in the future he's the model I'll use in my career. I can't make my respect for him any clearer than that." Football infrastructure: He builds the long term football infrastructure along with the first team. His coaching staff are serious technical people - not people who get jobs because of their playing career. He revamped the youth setup at LFC and Sterling, Ibe, Flanagan - not exactly class of 92 but still the best youth setup LFC had in ages. Expect some personnel from Sevilla, Barcelona, Madrid youth setup to join yu guys in the future. Will Newcastle win the Premier League if Rafa is the boss for the next 10 years? Not sure. But you will definitely win cups and most likely nice shiny European ones. If my life depended on the outcome of a two legged European tie, there is no one on the planet I would pick to manage my club other than Rafa Benitez. Loose to Reading on Saturday and then go to Nou Camp and defeat reining European champion Barcelona on their home turf. Expect a lot of weeks like that. Good luck. Wonderful manager, great person. You will love him Just seen this after reading the Ace Posts thread. Thanks for taking the time to post this. I don't think I've wanted anything more in my time supporting this club than for us to survive relegation this season. We're literally fighting for the future of the club. Years of Rafa Benitez and a serious shot at success, or relegation to the Championship and the cycle of employing yesteryear's dross as manager starts again, more years of pain and no hope. I hope this fight is drilled into the players before Norwich because we need it bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Spot on Decky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Yeah, precisely how I feel. Three weeks ago I was moderately apathetic at the prospect of relegation, as I was last season. Now, having had such hope reignited, it would be the cruellest suckerpunch of all to get relegated now. It would feel like oblivion - knowing that we really did have a tangible chance of achieving something again. Hell, just feeling like I'm part of the club again has been fantastic. Being reminded that my grip on true supporterdom isn't quite as threadbare as I thought, after all the defeatism and apathy of the past two or three years, has been a huge relief to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Ra, Ra, Ra, Rafa Beniteggz! http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160322/288c19df61b2db3a603eca69b9426f83.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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