Bimpy474 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 The problem is that we or the media started throwing figures about. 70 million, 100 million etc.. Rafa never said he had this much, the club certainly didn't either. We're not broke, but not spending what we don't have yet. Rafa will get the club to spend big when there's no risk of a bidding war happening. When all the other clubs have spunked their budget on ponies we should be able to find some value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 There's not that much wrong TBF we've made three good signings and I'm confident we'll make more, some of the dead wood needs to go but that will happen during the last week of the window when clubs are desperate. I would have prefered us to have our best first team with new players by the Spurs game but like a lot of other teams this wont happen till September. We've signed 2 players with virtually no experience of top level football and another who did OK in Spain. Stop exaggerating. The summer's been an abject failure so far. Juxtaposition of those two sentences is interesting. Was literally thinking that :lol: You might want to start literally thinking about how poor we often looked in the second half of last season, then. While you're at it start thinking about the pace and quality disparity of the two leagues. At this point I'd expect us to have something like the foundations of a PL side to put out. We absolute cannot find a PL Xl from the mess of a squad we have right now. Not even close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 There's not that much wrong TBF we've made three good signings and I'm confident we'll make more, some of the dead wood needs to go but that will happen during the last week of the window when clubs are desperate. I would have prefered us to have our best first team with new players by the Spurs game but like a lot of other teams this wont happen till September. We've signed 2 players with virtually no experience of top level football and another who did OK in Spain. Stop exaggerating. The summer's been an abject failure so far. If you are judging what has been accomplished on July 25th with the criteria of what you expect from the window in its entirety, then of course it is a failure. The squad clearly needs to strengthen in a variety of areas, but there will also clearly be more signings. Only the most ardent of pessimists can really believe we are fully done. In my view, we've made two good deals and one mediocre one thus far, and need three to four more to be satisfactory. My real disappointment, is that it seems the club seemingly need to sell in order to buy, a financial reality that is worrying when competing in the richest league in the history of world football. Well isn't that the point? One of the major worries is that while we are waiting to sell players we could see our primary targets move elsewhere to clubs who don't have that problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 There's not that much wrong TBF we've made three good signings and I'm confident we'll make more, some of the dead wood needs to go but that will happen during the last week of the window when clubs are desperate. I would have prefered us to have our best first team with new players by the Spurs game but like a lot of other teams this wont happen till September. We've signed 2 players with virtually no experience of top level football and another who did OK in Spain. Stop exaggerating. The summer's been an abject failure so far. If you are judging what has been accomplished on July 25th with the criteria of what you expect from the window in its entirety, then of course it is a failure. The squad clearly needs to strengthen in a variety of areas, but there will also clearly be more signings. Only the most ardent of pessimists can really believe we are fully done. In my view, we've made two good deals and one mediocre one thus far, and need three to four more to be satisfactory. My real disappointment, is that it seems the club seemingly need to sell in order to buy, a financial reality that is worrying when competing in the richest league in the history of world football. I don't think it's sell to buy in the traditional sense though. The squad is far too big, Rafa's acknowledged as much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Rafa will get the club to spend big when there's no risk of a bidding war happening. When all the other clubs have spunked their budget on ponies we should be able to find some value. Struggling to think of a single player we have signed during The Age of Ashley, on the back competing with clubs for their signature ie. winning a so called bidding war. If anything the club's habit has been to wet the beaks of agents in order get a clear run at players with contract clauses and/or their contracts running down. Don't sell this narrative that Rafa has installed a genius masterplan, or the patient waiting game you have outlined, because Sports Direct United has operated like this for as long as I can remember. You're suger coating a turd, the regime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 anyone else going to the talk in tomorrow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 There's not that much wrong TBF we've made three good signings and I'm confident we'll make more, some of the dead wood needs to go but that will happen during the last week of the window when clubs are desperate. I would have prefered us to have our best first team with new players by the Spurs game but like a lot of other teams this wont happen till September. We've signed 2 players with virtually no experience of top level football and another who did OK in Spain. Stop exaggerating. The summer's been an abject failure so far. Juxtaposition of those two sentences is interesting. Was literally thinking that :lol: You might want to start literally thinking about how poor we often looked in the second half of last season, then. While you're at it start thinking about the pace and quality disparity of the two leagues. At this point I'd expect us to have something like the foundations of a PL side to put out. We absolute cannot find a PL Xl from the mess of a squad we have right now. Not even close. Getting better sad sack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 anyone else going to the talk in tomorrow? Me, looking forward to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Be interesting to see what Rafa says after the Bradford friendly re: Samaris and Merino Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Love this bloke like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Love this bloke like. Rafa He just lives and breathes the game and is desperate for success at our club. Always demanding improvement and wants NUFC back in the upper echelons of English game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 If he gets the 4 more signings he wants in, I'll be hyper excited for this season just like I was post-Barnsley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 anyone else going to the talk in tomorrow? Me, looking forward to it. wheres it at? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 At current, I'd say he would keep us up at a stretch. Give him what he wants and needs and the sky is the limit. That's what pisses me off so much about the owner and his cretins he has in key positions because they don't seem to understand just how much of a golden opportunity they have in Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 NINE Bar or whatever its called this season Should be renamed Rafa's in my john humble like ha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Let's have a Kevin Keegan stand or something first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 There's not that much wrong TBF we've made three good signings and I'm confident we'll make more, some of the dead wood needs to go but that will happen during the last week of the window when clubs are desperate. I would have prefered us to have our best first team with new players by the Spurs game but like a lot of other teams this wont happen till September. We've signed 2 players with virtually no experience of top level football and another who did OK in Spain. Stop exaggerating. The summer's been an abject failure so far. Juxtaposition of those two sentences is interesting. Was literally thinking that :lol: You might want to start literally thinking about how poor we often looked in the second half of last season, then. While you're at it start thinking about the pace and quality disparity of the two leagues. At this point I'd expect us to have something like the foundations of a PL side to put out. We absolute cannot find a PL Xl from the mess of a squad we have right now. Not even close. Getting better sad sack Says who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 There's not that much wrong TBF we've made three good signings and I'm confident we'll make more, some of the dead wood needs to go but that will happen during the last week of the window when clubs are desperate. I would have prefered us to have our best first team with new players by the Spurs game but like a lot of other teams this wont happen till September. We've signed 2 players with virtually no experience of top level football and another who did OK in Spain. Stop exaggerating. The summer's been an abject failure so far. Juxtaposition of those two sentences is interesting. Was literally thinking that :lol: You might want to start literally thinking about how poor we often looked in the second half of last season, then. While you're at it start thinking about the pace and quality disparity of the two leagues. At this point I'd expect us to have something like the foundations of a PL side to put out. We absolute cannot find a PL Xl from the mess of a squad we have right now. Not even close. Getting better sad sack Says who? Laying the foundations expertly for a well deployed 'told you so' moment after the Spurs match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Nah, Spurs game doesn't mean anything. We'll still have loads of time to sign players after that. Can't wait for deadline day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I'm really looking forward to having a few Jagers with this legend tonight Hopefully, it will be a cracking night although I'm not really sure what to expect?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 At current, I'd say he would keep us up at a stretch. Give him what he wants and needs and the sky is the limit. That's what pisses me off so much about the owner and his cretins he has in key positions because they don't seem to understand just how much of a golden opportunity they have in Rafa. We won't get a better manager in most of our lifetimes, I'm 33. It's grim as fuck. Say Ashley lasts another 30 years through some kind of zero hour contract cryogenesis company that's able to stop his liver all his bodily organs from killing him, that's another 30 years of damage to the club and the brand. At best, we could end up being a club like Charlton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Newcastle United has no history of sustained long term success, we are a one city club that jumps from one crisis to the other. Rafa is the first manager in years that has calmed everyone down and brought the whole thing together, to say that the best we can hope for is to end up like Charlton is the most defeatest, morbid non-geordie thing you could say. I still think part of the charm of supporting Newcastle is the fact that we will never be like Charlton, the whole point of supporting a team like us is the passion and the fun, to mope about and complain is just not what its about. When Pardew was in charge there was a morbid pleasure in getting beat because you knew he was one step closer to leaving. I dont know what to expect this season and I'm certinly not one of these "Support the team not the regime" types but it looks like I'm gonna watch a good young team that want to do well for Newcastle been coach by one of the best in the world, we will lose a few games and we will win a few as well so I'm gonna sit back relax and enjoy the ride........................................................until the next crisis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I agree with that but we should always be trying to compete and improve. That's been the problem in recent times, not that fact we've been shit or had shit managers or players. I don't think anyone would rather be boring like Charlton or whoever, but once your club opts out of the whole spirit of competition there's a big problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Rafa is the first manager in years that has calmed everyone down and brought the whole thing together, want him to stay with us now in the PL for another 5 years (or more), i think we'll be unrecognisable to the last +10 years of absolute shit obviously the preference would be for ashley to fuck off or get hit by a falling piano or something but if keeping rafa on some cosmic level means ashley stays i'd take it, we got the right manager at the right time imo and we need to exploit it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (Whisper) I dont think Rafa's strong point is picking goalkeepers............................ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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