mrmojorisin75 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 He wasn't their scraps but I remember the move being criticised. it was not initially well received at all, neither robert either tbh (more that no one knew who he was) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 He wasn't their scraps but I remember the move being criticised. Not denying that to some extent, but it's very different from this Joselu lad. edit: my memory was more people thought it was a lot of money for him. He'd not pulled up many trees when Coventry went down. Missed a ton of chances but his game clicked straight away here. Still missed a load of one on ones but his all round game was perfect for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Because he was a Striker who'd moved for big money and hadn't scored many goals. I certainly don't remember a massive queue of teams lining up to buy him. If I recall correctly he was also Bobby's second choice behind Jeffers. In the same way Robert was second choice to Zenden Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 We'll sign superstars that turn out to be duds, we'll sign some dross players that turn out to be decent for us. It happens in football, not just for us but for everyone. There is only merit in evaluating players based on their performances in an NUFC shirt, because what they've done with other clubs before us or after us is pretty irrelevant. At this moment in time, we have a world class manager choosing the players rather than a fraud like Pardew, I'll more than happy give any person Rafa chooses to sign a decent chance. He's bound to pick some duds, but every manager does. If Rafa thinks that Joselu can do a job for us, then I'm more than happy to trust that judgement until I've seen otherwise. Clark and Murphy, two signings last season that 90% of our support, me included, thought were shit - but two players who ultimately helped us win the league and promotion at the first attempt. That said, I understand why people would like to evaluate players before they sign - although I just don't think there is much to it and there is absolute no point in writing someone off as 'shit' before they've even kicked a ball for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 The age of the internet means every players numbers are analysed massively without the player being watched and conclusions are then drawn off those numbers. But as we all know, its not as simple as that and that's why some managers are so much better than others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I remember thinking that Bellamy was an underwhelming signing at the time, and Jeffers would have been as well. I was excited about Robert though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 We'll sign superstars that turn out to be duds, we'll sign some dross players that turn out to be decent for us. It happens in football, not just for us but for everyone. There is only merit in evaluating players based on their performances in an NUFC shirt, because what they've done with other clubs before us or after us is pretty irrelevant. At this moment in time, we have a world class manager choosing the players rather than a fraud like Pardew, I'll more than happy give any person Rafa chooses to sign a decent chance. He's bound to pick some duds, but every manager does. If Rafa thinks that Joselu can do a job for us, then I'm more than happy to trust that judgement until I've seen otherwise. Clark and Murphy, two signings last season that 90% of our support, me included, thought were s*** - but two players who ultimately helped us win the league and promotion at the first attempt. That said, I understand why people would like to evaluate players before they sign - although I just don't think there is much to it and there is absolute no point in writing someone off as 's***' before they've even kicked a ball for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 If Robert really was second choice, then I'm glad we missed out on Zenden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 When Bellamy signed, I remember Coventry fans coming on the old forum with a photoshop of Bellamy as a Barbie Ken doll with a tagline of "He gets in the box! He falls over!" or something similar. I don't know how representative they were, but they seemed well glad to see the back of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Yeah, Coventry signed Bellamy to replace Robbie Keane when he went to Inter and he didn't look much cop at all. Was an apprehensive attitude to the transfer - seemed like an average signing from an average PL side, a bit like Cort had seemed at that time as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Yeah, Coventry signed Bellamy to replace Robbie Keane when he went to Inter and he didn't look much cop at all. Was an apprehensive attitude to the transfer - seemed like an average signing from an average PL side, a bit like Cort had seemed at that time as well. He started as a centre forward but couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo, missed countless one on ones so much so that Gordon Strachan played him out on the left flank for the final 3 quarters of their relegation season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I'm sure we were linked with Robert before Zenden, although we did try and buy the latter first. Robert excited me because he was coming from PSG, a French left winger... oooh la la la Ginola. I hadn't seem him play, however. Bellamy's signing was very much a meh signing at the time. Infact that whole summer wasn't that exciting. I still believe the InterToto cup games gave us an advantage going into the campaign though and when we drew with big spending Chelsea on the opening day I thought we could have a good season. And we did, more than good. Two players in Robert and Bellamy totally transformed an average side. Such signings this summer could transform the current team too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I just remember seeing his stats and that he'd played in that Confederations Cup. Was a tragedy that he didn't get capped ever again and that he didn't make the World Cup squad in 2002 to replace Pires' injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 2004 was when I think he gave up mind. He'd scored about 10 by February and was flying, then Bruno Cheyrou got called up by France instead. Hitting 29 and knowing he wasn't going to those Euros I think he pretty much stopped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 http://i.imgur.com/uuStRei.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Adrian is looking more likely going by Twitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I've always thought Adrian looked like a decent keeper, whenever I've seen him. Although he was dropped last season for Randolph, wasn't he? As we weren't in the PL, I didn't really take a great deal of notice of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I've always thought Adrian looked like a decent keeper, whenever I've seen him. Although he was dropped last season for Randolph, wasn't he? As we weren't in the PL, I didn't really take a great deal of notice of it. He was yeah, can't say I would rate him any higher than Krul pre injury of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Remember Adrian got sent off for West Ham a few years ago just outside the opposition's box after he'd gone up for a corner. One of the weirdest red cards I've seen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 If Adrian is coming i wonder who of Elliot-Krul-Darlow-Woodman we have accepted a bid for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 If Adrian is coming i wonder who of Elliot-Krul-Darlow-Woodman we have accepted a bid for? Krul and Woodman both will leave on loan I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Not his biggest fan but better than anything we've got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Samaris isn't in the Benfica 18 tonight for their Super Cup match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Samaris isn't in the Benfica 18 tonight for their Super Cup match. I love this time of the window when everyone checks if players we are linked to are in the squad. ? I even did it with Joselu this afternoon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 And was he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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