Hanshithispantz Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Wijnaldum's a far, far better footballer than Sissoko. Not a chance he stays but he's a player we'd really want if we come back up. He has much better technique but he's a massive coward on and off the ball You could say that about loads of players in the situation he was in, even Sissoko as the term is pretty much synonymous with playing shite. I wouldn't stick up for his application last season when it was obviously going wrong, I was fully behind dropping him (and Shelvey and playing, urgh, Colback). But he's so good on the ball that he's worth sticking with now we have a proper manager building a proper squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Looks like Pardew's been priced out then. He doesn't want to be here though so we should probably flog him for about £3m. Handbags. I'm in the minority with keeping wijnaldum. If we managed to fetch upwards of 25m I will gladly escort him there myself. Confident we could bring a couple of players in that would excite me more than a sulky gini. Now you want £25m for someone you wanted out of the club What are you talking about chuckles? I think I'm in the minority of wanting to keep him. Never said I wanted rid but if we get upwards of 25m it's too good to turn down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Hes not a coward, sadly he didn't seem to give a fuck. Nah he's a coward, every time he gets it he just passes it sideways or backwards, never tries an incisive pass which for a player of his technique is very cowardly IMO I doubt any player tried more 1-2s into the box than he did last season. There were times he'd do literally fuck all the entire game and look totally shit, but it wasn't because he wasn't willing to play anyone in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Wijnaldum's a far, far better footballer than Sissoko. Not a chance he stays but he's a player we'd really want if we come back up. He has much better technique but he's a massive coward on and off the ball You could say that about loads of players in the situation he was in, even Sissoko as the term is pretty much synonymous with playing shite. I wouldn't stick up for his application last season when it was obviously going wrong, I was fully behind dropping him (and Shelvey and playing, urgh, Colback). But he's so good on the ball that he's worth sticking with now we have a proper manager building a proper squad. He is good on the ball but he rarely shows it because he's a massive coward. That's why I prefer Sissoko to him. When Sissoko plays poorly as he often does he's still trying to create things running at people and trying to get the ball to the strikers. Wijnaldum just hides and never gives an option for a pass and then if it somehow gets to him he just passes it back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Honestly, I'm not that big a fan of either of them. Gini was shockingly absent in so many games. I remember watchin and wondering where he was so often, and we desperately needed him to get involved. I really don't like his game that much at all. Still not sure where he should be playing either. Seems a luxury player that you could perhaps slot into a team with lots of quality players and he can just goal poach then. I'd agree with the apples and oranges except this was wijnaldums first year in a new league, at a new club playing under a terrible coaching regime alongside a team plummeting. I'm not going to say his invisibility in too many games was acceptable but he certainly has more excuses to fall back on than Sissoko. I've said it before and I will say it again. If we had managed to stay up the majority of the board would be optimistic and seeing his goal return as a very promising first season rather than using him as another scapegoat for many players and management's failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I agree, I don't really get the comments about Sissoko not applying himself. But if it was one or the other I'd go with Wijnaldum as I'd be genuinely exited to see how he fares in an actual functioning side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 It's moot anyway like, he'll not stay, and honestly I don't want him in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Honestly, I'm not that big a fan of either of them. Gini was shockingly absent in so many games. I remember watchin and wondering where he was so often, and we desperately needed him to get involved. I really don't like his game that much at all. Still not sure where he should be playing either. Seems a luxury player that you could perhaps slot into a team with lots of quality players and he can just goal poach then. I'd agree with the apples and oranges except this was wijnaldums first year in a new league, at a new club playing under a terrible coaching regime alongside a team plummeting. I'm not going to say his invisibility in too many games was acceptable but he certainly has more excuses to fall back on than Sissoko. I've said it before and I will say it again. If we had managed to stay up the majority of the board would be optimistic and seeing his goal return as a very promising first season rather than using him as another scapegoat for many players and management's failure. Yeah, fair enough. I guess what frustrated me so much about Gini is that he wasn't even trying things, and struggling to pull them off, that I could understand. I mean he has pace and good ability on the ball, but hardly ever took people on for example. Really strange. It will be fascinating to see how he fares in another side if he stays in the Prem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Mirror reporting that we asked for ibe and 10m+ last week for Wiji but bournemouth stepped in and scuppered the deal. Also says tottenham will offer us players too as well as money for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 To be fair, we're in a win-win situation with Gini and Sissoko. Keep them (due to no decent offers or whatever) - they then have to perform well for at least half of the season to have any chance of getting a move away in January. Sell them (due to a decent sized offer coming in) - we then have £40m+ to strengthen to squad. Personally I think both players have their talents, but both have such a poor characters that the bad days outweigh the good days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Don't particularly like either Sissoko or Wijnaldum. But even Sissoko stepped up a bit once Benitez got a handle on things. Right till the end Wijnaldum was nowt but a liability. Yet the fucker can turn around and talk about how well he's done, delusional and and absolutely no soul what so ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 The problem with selling Wijnaldum and Sissoko is replacing them. There's only so many players we can attract who are good enough for the Premiership but are willing to play for a season in the Championship. The same goes for Cisse's replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Cisse's replacement not so much. I think Gayle is more than enough to replace him. Sissoko and Wijnaldum though, I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPalAl Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Southampton's Matt Targett is our next target (see what I did there?) according to The Sun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Cisse's replacement not so much. I think Gayle is more than enough to replace him. Sissoko and Wijnaldum though, I agree. Apparently Rafa wants to replace Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Southampton's Matt Targett is our next target (see what I did there?) according to The Sun He's good anarl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 So they have more bad days than good days and are cowards yet we couldn't replace them with 40m? Ok then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 For me it's win/win regarding Winecum and Sissoko. Not bothered either way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Southampton's Matt Targett is our next target (see what I did there?) according to The Sun He's good anarl I haven't seen him at all but do remember him getting quite a lot of hype at the start of last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Don't particularly like either Sissoko or Wijnaldum. But even Sissoko stepped up a bit once Benitez got a handle on things. Right till the end Wijnaldum was nowt but a liability. Yet the f***er can turn around and talk about how well he's done, delusional and and absolutely no soul what so ever. Nailed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Matt Targett would be a class signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Attacking LB with good crosses? (No Jesus jokes please) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I like the idea of picking from the best Scotland have to offer. Looks like we might get two of their international team. Any more which can do what we need in the Championship and, ideally, have room for further development? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Of Sissoko and Wijnaldum I think I would rather have Sissoko in the team as he will try to influence a game you just have to motivate him to give his best in all games. Wijnaldum on the other hand is a coward and hides when the going gets tough even when Rafa took charge, whereas Sissoko clearly upped his game. Having said that we have got at least a year in this division, and the first year up won't be easy (target 10th to 14th). We need a dependable spine we can add quality to later on. Them too can't offer that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Can't see any mention of Targett online. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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