loki679 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 So the Russian media is basically RTG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 So the Russian media is basically RTG. dunno rtg occasionally intersects with reality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Collymore's article was alright considering the source, the England hooligans now are old dads harking back to the 'glory days' with their sons alongside them, effectively The Micks. Being absolutely pasted by massive, roided up 'cage fighters' in an organised pack. It's probably not a bad thing the former are getting a hiding but innocent people are getting caught up amongst it and lives put at risk. The Russian media are absolutely vile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 So the Russian media is basically RTG. dunno rtg occasionally intersects with reality Usually behind a Chinese takeaway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 So the Russian media is basically RTG. dunno rtg occasionally intersects with reality Usually behind a Chinese takeaway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 This was scary and interesting: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3638095/GUY-WALTERS-Ruthless-thugs-symbolise-new-Russia.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Can't see any sane person traveling to Russia in two years time. Would be crazy, especially with the Russian media and some of its leaders thinking this is a good thing and something to be proud of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Question (to be answered over the next week) is will the Russians go for anyone, or was it just the England as they have a reputation and they knew they'd probably give some back? I mean, are we gonna see fighting in Lille between Russians and Slovaks? Or in Toulouse between them and the Welsh? I kinda doubt it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I honestly hope we don't qualify, fuck that tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Question (to be answered over the next week) is will the Russians go for anyone, or was it just the England as they have a reputation and they knew they'd probably give some back? I mean, are we gonna see fighting in Lille between Russians and Slovaks? Or in Toulouse between them and the Welsh? I kinda doubt it It seems like it was an organised thing to show the world (aka those weirdos on Youtube who wank over this kind of thing) the dominance of Russia and to make England (and probably the Poles, Ukranians etc if they meet them) look weak. I don't think they'll attack anyone, at least you'd hope not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I have two years to brush up on my cage fighting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I know it probably sounds like a bad case of paranoia to yous, but I have little doubt that some of the Russian 'fans' are acting directly on Kremlin orders. Putin has a long history of using nationalist movements, far-right dickheads, football hooligans for his guerrilla war against the West. These people are literally paid to go to France and fight. Like they were paid to murder people in Ukraine. Still can't get my head around the West's continued tolerance towards Russia. They're openly leading a war against Europe, yet Russia is still treated like a part of Europe? Kremlin is spending billions on training para-military organisations and anti-EU propaganda throughout Eastern Europe. In my country (Bulgaria), Russian commandos train hundreds of brain-dead wasters (unofficially of course). UEFA members.. give me a break. And don't get me started on hosting the World Cup. Every single FIFA commissioner who voted for that should be investigated and thrown to jailllll!!!1` Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 No technique. Least the Russians looks like they have trained for this They're even wearing gum shields before going into battle. English fans are hardly blameless but the Russians and local French youths seem to be the instigators. The problem is that the English brought hooliganism into European Football so they are now the scalp the hooligans from other countries want. The 2nd problem is that all the proper English hooligans were banned from travelling and the wannabee hooligans over there now just can't hack it against the rest. I followed Newcastle to Marseille 12 years ago and it was a dodgy experience back then and that was without 1000s of Russians milling about looking for trouble. In hindsight it was always going to be a recipe for disaster. Aye. I was 14 and we went our there for that (my dad and all the match lads). We even went to some of the supposedly questionable bars but had nothing but friendly banter with the locals. The police process was intimidating it was like being cattle. Filtered into a 3 sectioned warehouse and searched from head to toe. Atmosphere was quite volatile but no fighting. At the end both sets f fans turned and clapped one another. Was probably just as well they beat us though. Otherwise there could have been a barny. Fuck knows who chose the Russians and English to play in Marseille though. A port, lots of poorer people and a large Muslim and Arab population. That mixed with organised hooligans and pisshead Brits the sun was never gonna work. Germany and Poland could kick off on Thursday and I suspect some Russians will be in Lens for our game with Wales. The local authorities in each nation are to blame for me. Stop them before they even get there. They cannot all be new generation hoolys. Shuld just have a tosser tournament and let all the fucking mongs scrap it out. Keep them all away from us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Hopefully Russia play Turkey. That should end nicely with more oxygen for all of us. Hooligans only. Obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I know it probably sounds like a bad case of paranoia to yous, but I have little doubt that some of the Russian 'fans' are acting directly on Kremlin orders. Putin has a long history of using nationalist movements, far-right dickheads, football hooligans for his guerrilla war against the West. These people are literally paid to go to France and fight. Like they were paid to murder people in Ukraine. Still can't get my head around the West's continued tolerance towards Russia. They're openly leading a war against Europe, yet Russia is still treated like a part of Europe? Kremlin is spending billions on training para-military organisations and anti-EU propaganda throughout Eastern Europe. In my country (Bulgaria), Russian commandos train hundreds of brain-dead wasters (unofficially of course). UEFA members.. give me a break. And don't get me started on hosting the World Cup. Every single FIFA commissioner who voted for that should be investigated and thrown to jailllll!!!1` Go to the Russia thread. It's all NATO man, probably this as well. NATO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Question (to be answered over the next week) is will the Russians go for anyone, or was it just the England as they have a reputation and they knew they'd probably give some back? I mean, are we gonna see fighting in Lille between Russians and Slovaks? Or in Toulouse between them and the Welsh? I kinda doubt it Hate to say it, but it's probably going to spread like a virus. Now you will probably get other nations wanting to prove they are as hard as the russians, who basically wanted to do the same to the English. Just look at the organised legal punch up between Polish and Swedish fans a few pages back. Where that sort of mentality is cultivated and allowed to grow, it's only going to end badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Question (to be answered over the next week) is will the Russians go for anyone, or was it just the England as they have a reputation and they knew they'd probably give some back? I mean, are we gonna see fighting in Lille between Russians and Slovaks? Or in Toulouse between them and the Welsh? I kinda doubt it Hate to say it, but it's probably going to spread like a virus. Now you will probably get other nations wanting to prove they are as hard as the russians, who basically wanted to do the same to the English. Just look at the organised legal punch up between Polish and Swedish fans a few pages back. Where that sort of mentality is cultivated and allowed to grow, it's only going to end badly. Most nations aren't a massive bunch of bellends though. That's really just the english, the russians, the turks and the italians. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Question (to be answered over the next week) is will the Russians go for anyone, or was it just the England as they have a reputation and they knew they'd probably give some back? I mean, are we gonna see fighting in Lille between Russians and Slovaks? Or in Toulouse between them and the Welsh? I kinda doubt it Hate to say it, but it's probably going to spread like a virus. Now you will probably get other nations wanting to prove they are as hard as the russians, who basically wanted to do the same to the English. Just look at the organised legal punch up between Polish and Swedish fans a few pages back. Where that sort of mentality is cultivated and allowed to grow, it's only going to end badly. Most nations aren't a massive bunch of bellends though. That's really just the english, the russians, the turks and the italians. Dutch. Germans to a degree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Question (to be answered over the next week) is will the Russians go for anyone, or was it just the England as they have a reputation and they knew they'd probably give some back? I mean, are we gonna see fighting in Lille between Russians and Slovaks? Or in Toulouse between them and the Welsh? I kinda doubt it Hate to say it, but it's probably going to spread like a virus. Now you will probably get other nations wanting to prove they are as hard as the russians, who basically wanted to do the same to the English. Just look at the organised legal punch up between Polish and Swedish fans a few pages back. Where that sort of mentality is cultivated and allowed to grow, it's only going to end badly. Most nations aren't a massive bunch of bellends though. That's really just the english, the russians, the turks and the italians. Dutch. Germans to a degree. I think there's a few countries which could go that way, the eastern european ones for example where neo-nazi type movements are rising. There seems to be a different mentality with some nations. When England last hosted the Euros, French fans congregated and struck up an impromptu band. It's just a different mentality. Now we are getting organised mobs training in MMA to do it right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Question (to be answered over the next week) is will the Russians go for anyone, or was it just the England as they have a reputation and they knew they'd probably give some back? I mean, are we gonna see fighting in Lille between Russians and Slovaks? Or in Toulouse between them and the Welsh? I kinda doubt it Hate to say it, but it's probably going to spread like a virus. Now you will probably get other nations wanting to prove they are as hard as the russians, who basically wanted to do the same to the English. Just look at the organised legal punch up between Polish and Swedish fans a few pages back. Where that sort of mentality is cultivated and allowed to grow, it's only going to end badly. Most nations aren't a massive bunch of bellends though. That's really just the english, the russians, the turks and the italians. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/13/moscow-football-official-to-violent-fans-well-done-lads-keep-it-up?CMP=share_btn_tw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Only England could get knocked out on the pitch and in the stands in one tournament. How embarrassing. Russia will be hellish, all kinds of bother. Racism, stabbings, political cover ups, the whole works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 See, I've no doubt they'd run a tight ship over there. I think it's cause they're away from home you're seeing their violence come out like this. Russian Government know the WC has to go smoothly. If they get to keep it... If anything, it'll be police brutality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 2 England fans have been jailed for fighting in Marseille. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/13/moscow-football-official-to-violent-fans-well-done-lads-keep-it-up?CMP=share_btn_tw Jesus christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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