STM Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 He's no more than a back up with low risk fee. Can't see how this is a bad move. Because people keep saying we need to offload a load of shite before bringing quality in. We've released an average player in Anita and brought in a frankly poor player as a replacement. Huge risk, unless he's on a lot less than Anita was. What if Manquillo turns out to be a better full back than Anita? No full back has ever improved after the age of 23, eh? Especially ones with loads of experience and a good manager to guide them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Never seen him play, but he is absolutely fucking shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 He would have to be really shit to be worse than Anita. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Shocked at this transfer. Its actually a down grade on Anita. Hope its a low fee if it is permanent. Anita was probably one of the worst players to play 50 top flight games for the club, and he wasn't even a right back so I don't know how it can be a downgrade. Because everything you've just said is nonsense? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 One thing is for sure, seeing how ready to groom feel about Manquillo, only makes me want him to succeed more. Absolute pond life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Anita's contract ran out, instead of giving him another long term contract we've signed a young player who may or may not improve instead. Cannot really see the issue. Obviously I hope he's not the last player we sign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Hopefully Rafa will sort him out, no worries here. Can always sell him back to a Spanish team for a similar fee if it doesn't work out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 3rd right back we've signed after a loan spell with Sunderland in the last 10 years I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Hmm.....Well I thought Clark was shit when we signed him so... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 He must be looked at as more than a mere squad player, i mean we have Sterry if that was the case. I think he'll be pushing for a starting place, Rafa sees something obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 He has been on loan in the Premier league. Anita was on a free and ended up at Leeds. I would say Rafa knows what he is doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 He must be looked at as more than a mere squad player, i mean we have Sterry if that was the case. I think he'll be pushing for a starting place, Rafa sees something obviously. It's a punt nothing more - if it comes off great - else - not a massive amount wasted (In new world terms) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Hmm.....Well I thought Clark was shit when we signed him so... Jury is still out on Clark in the prem I'm afraid. Hope he carries on the way he has been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 To quote simply this lad has played high level and at both Madrid teams, then Liverpool, then Marseille and down the road and also has featured in all the Spain youngun squads up until recently, I trust Rafa here. Clearly he wants the succeed at a high level even if it means playing in multiple leagues. Fair play to a 23 year old, some 50 year olds haven't even left home yet round here yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 He must be looked at as more than a mere squad player, i mean we have Sterry if that was the case. I think he'll be pushing for a starting place, Rafa sees something obviously. It's a punt nothing more - if it comes off great - else - not a massive amount wasted (In new world terms) I don't think Rafa works like that, he's so meticulous with his buys, and yep he does get it wrong now and again as he's said himself. But nothing more than a punt ! With Rafa's big brain, nah not for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 He could be the scorer of Sunderland's last PL goal for quite a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Don't see the problem with this. Rafa getting a player he wants is surely a good thing. Not bad back up at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 He would have to be really s*** to be worse than Anita. Summed up perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 After this signing one would hope that we will only go for players that will massively improve us without doubt, and walk in to the team straight away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 He must be looked at as more than a mere squad player, i mean we have Sterry if that was the case. I think he'll be pushing for a starting place, Rafa sees something obviously. It's a punt nothing more - if it comes off great - else - not a massive amount wasted (In new world terms) I don't think Rafa works like that, he's so meticulous with his buys, and yep he does get it wrong now and again as he's said himself. But nothing more than a punt ! With Rafa's big brain, nah not for me. Aye, it's like people haven't listened to the man for the last 12months. He's constantly banging on about watching videos, speaking to coaches/mansgers prior to buying players. He's seem something in him and he will think he can improve him. Good enough for me. I would not feel like this if pardew or.mclaren were signing him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 I trust Rafa's judgement on these things more than anyone in here. This is not John Carver. I'm not thrilled with lack of recruitment, but I trust Rafa on the personnel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 He must be looked at as more than a mere squad player, i mean we have Sterry if that was the case. I think he'll be pushing for a starting place, Rafa sees something obviously. It's a punt nothing more - if it comes off great - else - not a massive amount wasted (In new world terms) I don't think Rafa works like that, he's so meticulous with his buys, and yep he does get it wrong now and again as he's said himself. But nothing more than a punt ! With Rafa's big brain, nah not for me. Aye, it's like people haven't listened to the man for the last 12months. He's constantly banging on about watching videos, speaking to coaches/mansgers prior to buying players. He's seem something in him and he will think he can improve him. Good enough for me. I would not feel like this if pardew or.mclaren were signing him. Aye, although i'm a tad sceptical in thinking Rafa is the almighty as some of his buys for Liverpool turned out cack. But i've no doubt he did his research on them and was convinced they would work out. He said himself a 70/80% hit rate is excellent for a manager. And if it hits that for us we'll be as happy as you can get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Best thing for me about this transfer is that it's clearly a Benitez signing, and while I'm pretty sure he'd rather sign someone better, shows he's happy enough to work within the budget (whatever that might be). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Seems to me that Rafa has cut his cloth accordingly removing squad players of relegation / championship level quality (in his eyes) eho are also a tad older and replacing them with young lads who may have the potential to get better, who also have experience at top level. No major moves in the market for us yet but he's building a squad slow and steady without spending all that much. If we spend say £40million on two first team players at CM and #9/#10 then overall it's been an acceptable window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Best thing for me about this transfer is that it's clearly a Benitez signing, and while I'm pretty sure he'd rather sign someone better, shows he's happy enough to work within the budget (whatever that might be). Yeah it certainly feels like the players coming in now are his picks, which makes you feel settled, because as you say he's happy to work within the budget he's been given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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