Ketsbaia Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I've never understood 'first option'. The selling club would have no reason to be loyal to us, we don't get a special price, Kenedy isn't forced to choose us. Nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Basically only means that a club can't come in and start negotiating with Chelsea and the first we hear about it is well into discussions. They have to give us the chance right from the start to give them a offer they can accept before any other club gets involved in discussions. For a normal club that actually competes its useful as you can't get blind sighted and get in late when the player might have already decided to go somewhere else. But for us I really can't see how its even relevant, it would only work in situations where we can cast some sort of voodoo on the lad to make him only want to sign for us, otherwise we'll just get outbid anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I’d like to know why we have no money and can’t afford him personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I’d like to know why we have no money and can’t afford him personally. Wallpaper init Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Why does that complicate anything? If they're willing to sell him now for £30m (inevitably paid over 5-6 years anyway) then what's the difference between that and us paying £5m loan fee now with option to buy at £25m at the end of the season? Might be worth more than £30m at the end of the season He will only have one year left on his contract so i don’t think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 That's utter nonsense though. If he has another good season, there'll be zero commitment on their behalf to have any more than a passing 30 second 'this is the price, take it or leave it' chat. They will also be talking to other clubs in the background throughout the term of the loan. Fucking cumbuckets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Let's just enjoy the fact it looks like we have him for a full season and worry about the fee/deal later. No use in putting a dampener on what is such excellent news in terms of bringing him back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Won't he just cost more next year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 They are not bothered about that as Rafa will be gone then, so we won't have to splash out (He won't be a Moyes type signing). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Has this cunt signed yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Has this cunt signed yet? Whey aye. They're probably just getting photos of the sexy bastard in that lush new away kit. Will be announced on PornHub later on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 They are not bothered about that as Rafa will be gone then, so we won't have to splash out (He won't be a Moyes type signing). That makes a depressing amount of sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 They are not bothered about that as Rafa will be gone then, so we won't have to splash out (He won't be a Moyes type signing). That makes a depressing amount of sense. Aye. Ashley needs to be careful. If he backs Rafa too much, he might be tempted to sign that contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I mean I’ll enjoy watching him play but it’s hard to get too excited when we are just achieving parity with the second half of last season. Aye it was proper shite the second half of last season like. We’re a mid engined super car with a limiter at 70mph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Why does that complicate anything? If they're willing to sell him now for £30m (inevitably paid over 5-6 years anyway) then what's the difference between that and us paying £5m loan fee now with option to buy at £25m at the end of the season? Might be worth more than £30m at the end of the season Aye but they're perfectly happy to sell now for £30m apparently. If they just weren't willing to sell now and only willing to loan in the hope of his price rising I could understand it, but not in this case. Sounds more like we've just made no effort to get a future fee agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 so we want to be able to discuss a fee for a player we already refused to pay the asking price for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Never gets old Imagine if he’d ended up on the end of that cross, man? The logical conclusion is we'd lose to Brazil this Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Medical completed - SSN yellow bar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Brilliant signing – top player who really surprised me with his work rate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Why does that complicate anything? If they're willing to sell him now for £30m (inevitably paid over 5-6 years anyway) then what's the difference between that and us paying £5m loan fee now with option to buy at £25m at the end of the season? Might be worth more than £30m at the end of the season Aye but they're perfectly happy to sell now for £30m apparently. If they just weren't willing to sell now and only willing to loan in the hope of his price rising I could understand it, but not in this case. Sounds more like we've just made no effort to get a future fee agreed. Nailed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 If we have almost the same squad as we ended last season with then we're not in a bad place. Kenedy and Dubravka sorted, Lascelles and Lejeune looking strong, Shelvey and Diame on top of their game and Ayoze fulfilling his obvious potential. We looked excellent at the end of the season and while nothings a given you know that Rafa wouldn't let their standards fall. The loss of Merino while disappointing, after his early promise, isn't really going to impact as he hardly featured once we started improving. The unity and desire the team showed was amazing and while Rafa will not want to risk upsetting that, two or three decent signings and replacements for those yet to leave will put us in pretty good shape for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 If we have almost the same squad as we ended last season with then we're not in a bad place. Kenedy and Dubravka sorted, Lascelles and Lejeune looking strong, Shelvey and Diame on top of their game and Ayoze fulfilling his obvious potential. We looked excellent at the end of the season and while nothings a given you know that Rafa wouldn't let their standards fall. The loss of Merino while disappointing, after his early promise, isn't really going to impact as he hardly featured once we started improving. The unity and desire the team showed was amazing and while Rafa will not want to risk upsetting that, two or three decent signings and replacements for those yet to leave will put us in pretty good shape for next season. Plus profit, don’t forget the profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Rafa saying deal is pretty much done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I’d like more natural creative flair in the centre, someone who can bring the ball forward and play it about a bit because Perez often has to drop too deep to try and do that and if we are playing one up front it leaves us isolated and makes us rely on the counter too much. Someone like Merino for example would be good... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 We are desperate for a striker. So many points dropped last season through squandered chances (like spurs away). Bring in a finisher and i think we could be ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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