gbandit Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 04/08/2022 at 08:29, r0cafella said: employee closer employer who pays the most is somehow deluded? Expand There’s more at play than just wages here. Is the team you’re going to, going to develop you as a player, as you’re only 20 years old. What’s the team dynamic like, the area you’re moving to etc. if the wage difference between the two clubs is huge then it’s understandable, if it’s not that far apart but Everton offer higher I think it’s a poor choice to go to a team that only just survived relegation last season and have lost their best player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 04/08/2022 at 08:33, gbandit said: There’s more at play than just wages here. Is the team you’re going to, going to develop you as a player, as you’re only 20 years old. What’s the team dynamic like, the area you’re moving to etc. if the wage difference between the two clubs is huge then it’s understandable, if it’s not that far apart but Everton offer higher I think it’s a poor choice to go to a team that only just survived relegation last season and have lost their best player Expand If you look at things in purely sporting terms sure, west ham is better but given both teams are unlikely to win anything it doesn’t matter. in fact, given West ham seem ok financially it’s like the would struggle to move on if things go well due to demand a high fee. Also, maybe it’s a case of Everton offering a high salary plus release clauses as they have the weaker negotiating position than west ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 It's impossible to know what's going on in someone else's head but if it was me and I was 20 years old, I would like to think that the thing that would mean the most to me would be developing to be the best player I could be. I'd be looking at clubs and coaches who have a track record of developing players and that would be a big motivating factor for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 04/08/2022 at 08:39, gbandit said: It's impossible to know what's going on in someone else's head but if it was me and I was 20 years old, I would like to think that the thing that would mean the most to me would be developing to be the best player I could be. I'd be looking at clubs and coaches who have a track record of developing players and that would be a big motivating factor for me Expand Rice aside who have West ham brought through? if I’m the player or the players agent I’ll be looking for Salary/bonuses plus release clause. The romantic era is long gone, football is a business players know this, the owners definitely know it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Players like Bowen, Antonio, Cresswell, Rice and Fornals are all players who have improved a lot with West Ham. Rice is the main one they’ve brought through but as a 20 year old I’d be looking at how players have fared there in their early 20s when they’re developing. Anyway, I can’t argue with the fact it’s all business and that numbers on a sheet are the major factor nowadays. However, if I was looking at Everton seriously I’d want to know how they fared last season, did they look like a good place to play football and develop and the answer to that would be easy to come to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 04/08/2022 at 08:40, r0cafella said: Rice aside who have West ham brought through? Expand Do they not have a long history of bringing through quality youth players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 04/08/2022 at 09:09, Froggy said: Do they not have a long history of bringing through quality youth players? Expand I mean historically yes they have but I don’t think they were offering 30m to put this guy on the bench either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 03/08/2022 at 21:50, SUPERTOON said: Expand Wonder if many people will get Jizz on the back of their shirt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 How the fuck is Conor Wickam still only 29? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number37 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Same age as Haris Vučkić. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 04/08/2022 at 08:29, r0cafella said: employee closer employer who pays the most is somehow deluded? Expand Aye. West Ham and Everton are similar profile of clubs. One is doing much better than the other at the moment but I wouldn't be surprised if they were neck & neck in 5 years or situations were reversed (which was the case not too long ago). If i was a lad from France, i'd go to the highest bidder of terms were different by 20%+ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Forest after a lad called Jizz Hornkamp. For fucks sake somebody warn the lad what he’s in for before he commits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 04/08/2022 at 11:02, Mahoneys Tache said: Forest after a lad called Jizz Hornkamp. For fucks sake somebody warn the lad what he’s in for before he commits. Expand Not sure how he fits in there. Can’t see the Forest for the Jizz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Auba close to Chelsea according to my Barcelona supporting mate. Don't know where he's got that from Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 04/08/2022 at 12:05, Nobody said: Auba close to Chelsea according to my Barcelona supporting mate. Don't know where he's got that from Expand Romano broke it last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Have Chelsea decided to sack off the super league and the premier league and just decided to buy 100 players and play in their own league? Bold new footballing model if so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 04/08/2022 at 11:18, HaydnNUFC said: Expand Another one we've seemingly missed out on while we twiddle our thumbs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 04/08/2022 at 12:07, Rich said: Romano broke it last night. Expand Stole it from Nobody’s mate. Classic tap in merchant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 03/08/2022 at 21:54, Nobody said: The Cucurella deal to Chelsea fucking stinks IMO. Spending that amount on a player who isn't even needed is just next level shite for the game. Chelsea would have left backs worth a 1/3 of our club ffs Expand Just listening to Liverpool’s No.2 saying whoever uses the 5 sub rule the best wins the league. Said it’s great for the “big” teams. Not what Klopp said when arguing for it. What a surprise ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 04/08/2022 at 12:08, Tiotes Witch Doctor said: Another one we've seemingly missed out on while we twiddle our thumbs. Expand We aren't twiddling our thumbs we *checks notes* aren't sure what our next move is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 TWD went down in my estimation when he said that. Is there anyone Chelsea aren't signing or trying to sign btw? Hopefully gets the chain moving on Werner or Broja. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Not transfer related but DCL is out for 6 weeks, do Everton have any other strikers ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) On 04/08/2022 at 12:39, SUPERTOON said: Expand Great signing for West Ham. Can only hope Moyes is a bit daft and plays him at left back and not further forward in one of the winger slots. Would have been great on the right for us. Edited August 4, 2022 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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