The College Dropout Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 35 minutes ago, Viana said: That's kind of my point though. Right now they're still paying all seven players. Sure, Thiago goes next year, Fofana may be a crock, but that won't get you exemption from their salaries. You've also got players behind Colwill like Alfie Gilchrist and Bashir Humphreys that are going to struggle to get in because they've got a group of big money defenders on long term deals. Their FFP ceiling is high and Todd seems to have long pockets. They have £200m+ worth of academy talent to sell and a conveyor belt of more. A lot of the players they’ve bought they can sell-on too. Yes the squad building is messy. But the Disasi transfer has some logic behind it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 32 year old Jason Steele being hte #1 at Brighton because he's a ball player is wild to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Brighton are currently winning the game of chicken on Caicedo so trying to buy another player of them should be equally entertaining Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 4 hours ago, The Butcher said: If that's true Napoli really need to set a higher bar than €10m more if that's their first bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 What will happen with Cancelo? Just realised he’s still owned by Man City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: What will happen with Cancelo? Just realised he’s still owned by Man City. Arsenal or Barcelona are the rumours right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Barcelona are the pits as a club, they truly are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Bit of a fall from grace for Barca, they were everyone's darlings not so long ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 6 hours ago, The Butcher said: It's becoming a joke - football is broke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Where will it end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, duo said: It's becoming a joke - football is broke. Said me great great grandad when Alf Common moved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Wonder how much he’s rinsed them for in wages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 6 hours ago, The Butcher said: I don't understand this. How can a club with no previous mammoth expense, suddenly think this is a sustainable idea? Where is their income coming from when these Saudi sides are not globally viewed. Am I missing something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 PIF. Consider it a marketing expense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: I don't understand this. How can a club with no previous mammoth expense, suddenly think this is a sustainable idea? Where is their income coming from when these Saudi sides are not globally viewed. Am I missing something. Yes, the Saudi state has infinite wealth which it is prepared to use to fill the league with players from abroad. It’s not really to do with individual clubs. Edited July 31, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: I don't understand this. How can a club with no previous mammoth expense, suddenly think this is a sustainable idea? Where is their income coming from when these Saudi sides are not globally viewed. Am I missing something. They're getting free money from the government/PIF. This would be happening here if FFP didn't exist. I guess the plan is to try and fast-track their league to the levels of Europe's top 5 leagues and sell the product globally at a high price from there. It may well work because there's no denying there's a big interest in the league now, but they surely need to improve at a grassroots and youth level as well to make it properly sustainable rather than just throwing crazy money at established players. Having said that its hard to see the league ever having a pull other than it pays more than anywhere else. Edited July 31, 2023 by Decky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) Yes I understand the wealth, that's not the hard part. The long term sustainability is the tricky bit? It will never take off. The whole league would need to be competitive, or you're just looking at an SPL type league with two major clubs. There's no Uefa type competitiveness either. I just see failure, and a massive waste of cash, a bunch of players out in a country with awkward social settings, and when they're fed up, nobody will be able to afford to help them out, without these players taking huge pay drops. It's utterly pathetic. Edited July 31, 2023 by mighty__mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Ben said: Trades are the best. Pure chaos that would be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, mighty__mag said: I don't understand this. How can a club with no previous mammoth expense, suddenly think this is a sustainable idea? Where is their income coming from when these Saudi sides are not globally viewed. Am I missing something. Sustainability isn't a factor, they're richer than God. That fee is chump change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 They have literally endless money, and as a result they know the price of everything and the value of nothing. it’s just fluff, change down the back of the sofa for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 One thing that worries me is where does Newcastle fit in with all of this - clearly the Saudi League the priority for PIF. They will want to build a league that is the best in the world - granted they are a long way off. But as has been said they have limitless money they can throw at this and if they keep buying players - in time --> Super League? The knock on effect is the weakening of other leagues including the PL. Which brings me back to Newcastle as surely we'll also be one of the clubs that will suffer playing in a weakening league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, duo said: One thing that worries me is where does Newcastle fit in with all of this - clearly the Saudi League the priority for PIF. They will want to build a league that is the best in the world - granted they are a long way off. But as has been said they have limitless money they can throw at this and if they keep buying players - in time --> Super League? The knock on effect is the weakening of other leagues including the PL. Which brings me back to Newcastle as surely we'll also be one of the clubs that will suffer playing in a weakening league. theyll never have the champions league though. some trumped up world wide fifa club competion at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Newcastle are an absolutely insignificant investment for them in financial terms. On top of that they’ve clearly realised the limits of what they can do in an established league with ffp. So they have created their own set up where they can spend as much as they want. it’s all pretty distasteful tbh and absolutely no threat long term unless you see yourselves spending hundreds of hours online talking about Al-Nassr or whoever. Maybe it’ll be good and we’ll have a more humble, competitive premier league as a result. I had plenty of years getting huge amounts of pleasure from English football before Sky hijacked it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, brummie said: Newcastle are an absolutely insignificant investment for them in financial terms. On top of that they’ve clearly realised the limits of what they can do in an established league with ffp. So they have created their own set up where they can spend as much as they want. it’s all pretty distasteful tbh and absolutely no threat long term unless you see yourselves spending hundreds of hours online talking about Al-Nassr or whoever. Maybe it’ll be good and we’ll have a more humble, competitive premier league as a result. I had plenty of years getting huge amounts of pleasure from English football before Sky hijacked it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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