SUPERTOON Posted June 27, 2024 Share Posted June 27, 2024 48 minutes ago, The Prophet said: No cash involved ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted June 27, 2024 Share Posted June 27, 2024 58 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: No cash involved ? There must be a lot of dodgy accountinh going on because some of these seals seem ridiculous otherwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 4 hours ago, brummie said: Or "How much?" Or “you will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 They are swap deals in theory but there will be some ridiculous transfer fees getting written to the accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 7 hours ago, Pata said: They are swap deals in theory but there will be some ridiculous transfer fees getting written to the accounts. Yeah. Aren't they specifically being referred to as 'separate deals' rather than swaps, mostly? Obviously, if i swap a 20m player with you, that's one thing, but if i sell you a player for 20 and you sell me one for 20, we're both claiming the full 20 revenue in one nice immediate PSR satisfying hit whilst spreading the 20 we spent over 5 years. I mean, it is very clever pushing money around but clubs are forced to do this because of badly thought out rules that clearly do not work. Sawiris (our chairman) did an interview with the Torygraph the other week in which he said these rules are anti-competitive, entrench the leading clubs, and reduce football to an accountancy thing where you can't improve your team even if you have the money, and want to do so. He's spot on. The sound of the PL going on about investigating 'bad faith' transfers is ridiculous. I mean, are they going to investigate high value sales of home grown players when it is precisely because of their own stupid rules that home grown players have become so attractive to sell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 7 hours ago, Theregulars said: Or “you will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.” Or "Oh, hang on, you already play for us" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, brummie said: Yeah. Aren't they specifically being referred to as 'separate deals' rather than swaps, mostly? Obviously, if i swap a 20m player with you, that's one thing, but if i sell you a player for 20 and you sell me one for 20, we're both claiming the full 20 revenue in one nice immediate PSR satisfying hit whilst spreading the 20 we spent over 5 years. I mean, it is very clever pushing money around but clubs are forced to do this because of badly thought out rules that clearly do not work. Sawiris (our chairman) did an interview with the Torygraph the other week in which he said these rules are anti-competitive, entrench the leading clubs, and reduce football to an accountancy thing where you can't improve your team even if you have the money, and want to do so. He's spot on. The sound of the PL going on about investigating 'bad faith' transfers is ridiculous. I mean, are they going to investigate high value sales of home grown players when it is precisely because of their own stupid rules that home grown players have become so attractive to sell? He was absolutely spot on, let’s hope he Lawyers up and fights it. At the end of the day the league has had ample opportunity to create rules which are designed to create competitive balance but they refuse to do so and keep doubling down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gh0StFaC3 Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, brummie said: Or "Oh, hang on, you already play for us" Ah, the Joe Kinnear special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 It's since the yanks took over the majority of clubs all this shit started happening. Before long they'll have 14 clubs run by fellow yanks and they'll do even more damage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Deal collapsed as KDH wants Chelsea. Chelsea assembling such a bloated average squad. They’ll be saved by probably selling Palmer to Man Utd next summer for £80m+ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 What the fuck is he going there for?? Painfully obvious to see what's going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 I hate anyone who wants to go to Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I hate anyone who wants to go to Chelsea. Elvis Costello had it right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 The manager brought him on massively last season? Even if you ignore the fact Chelsea are bigger than Brighton and will offer more wages, it's obvious why he'd go there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Glad players are pushing back against this BS. In American sports players go wherever they are told right ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 25 minutes ago, madras said: Elvis Costello had it right. Tremendous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 6 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: The manager brought him on massively last season? Even if you ignore the fact Chelsea are bigger than Brighton and will offer more wages, it's obvious why he'd go there. Of course, Chelsea is as appealing as it gets for any player. Despite this I stand by my initial statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 (edited) 12 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Glad players are pushing back against this BS. In American sports players go wherever they are told right ? Generally speaking yes. Certain players will negotiate “no trade” clauses into their contracts. Edited June 28, 2024 by Deuce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Dewsbury-Hall is a decent player. Potentially a good deal for Chelsea if they can send players like Broja the other way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Caicedo / Enzo / Palmer their set up. So which one do they drop? Or do they move Palmer RW, in which case, why the fuck are they targeting RWs? It’s not a good deal for Chelsea. Still got likes of Lavia who won’t get minutes. Sterling high costs on LW. It’s a very bloated squad that’s just kicking the can down the road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 People love to bitch and moan about Chelsea's spending, but there's a reason to why they can spend as much as they do. They've sold homegrown talent worth hundreds of billions over the last few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 1 minute ago, The Butcher said: People love to bitch and moan about Chelsea's spending, but there's a reason to why they can spend as much as they do. They've sold homegrown talent worth hundreds of billions over the last few years. Don't forget hotels sales... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 1 minute ago, The Butcher said: People love to bitch and moan about Chelsea's spending, but there's a reason to why they can spend as much as they do. They've sold homegrown talent worth hundreds of billions over the last few years. Chelsea Money Spent since Todd landed: £966.9m Money Received – £274.4m Net Spend – £692.4m Newcastle United Money Spent – £296.7m Money Received – £42.2m Net Spend – £254.5m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 6 minutes ago, The Butcher said: People love to bitch and moan about Chelsea's spending, but there's a reason to why they can spend as much as they do. They've sold homegrown talent worth hundreds of billions over the last few years. Yup. Can you even imagine the reaction if we sold a talent like Lewis Hall? Or Maatsen who just played in the Champions League final? But yet, such annoyance when Chelsea reap the benefits of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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