Optimistic Nut Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Aye he’s Baines’ regen pretty much but I think he’ll be even better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Koeman must have really f***ed Messi off like Koeman told him his influence and privileges with the team have stopped. So if Messi wins this battle, does that pretty much mean Koeman has lost both the Barcelona and Netherlands job? Did he sign the official contract with Barcelona? I don’t see how the president leaves? Him and his team have to pay off the clubs debt out of their own pocket should he resign now - can he effectively go on gardening leave and pave the way for a temporary government so to speak? I didn't know that the president and his team have to pay off the clubs debt if he resigns. But if he steps down next year, does that mean he is still accountable for the debts or he is excused as it is the end of the term? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Koeman must have really f***ed Messi off like Koeman told him his influence and privileges with the team have stopped. So if Messi wins this battle, does that pretty much mean Koeman has lost both the Barcelona and Netherlands job? Did he sign the official contract with Barcelona? I don’t see how the president leaves? Him and his team have to pay off the clubs debt out of their own pocket should he resign now - can he effectively go on gardening leave and pave the way for a temporary government so to speak? I didn't know that the president and his team have to pay off the clubs debt if he resigns. But if he steps down next year, does that mean he is still accountable for the debts or he is excused as it is the end of the term? Didn't know that either but guess it explains the Pjanic deal as they were saying that was done purely to balance the books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 After Gayle's injury, I think a Brewster loan is exactly what Ashley would approve. Bet it's not something Klopp would! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Koeman must have really f***ed Messi off like Koeman told him his influence and privileges with the team have stopped. So if Messi wins this battle, does that pretty much mean Koeman has lost both the Barcelona and Netherlands job? Did he sign the official contract with Barcelona? I don’t see how the president leaves? Him and his team have to pay off the clubs debt out of their own pocket should he resign now - can he effectively go on gardening leave and pave the way for a temporary government so to speak? I didn't know that the president and his team have to pay off the clubs debt if he resigns. But if he steps down next year, does that mean he is still accountable for the debts or he is excused as it is the end of the term? You basically have to leave the club in profit or at break even - if you have made a loss, then you have to pay that off out of your own pocket - these are the rules - which is the reason why Barca are in disarray - the President has nowhere to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 https://twitter.com/robertorojas97/status/1298704431626817545?s=21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Koeman must have really f***ed Messi off like Koeman told him his influence and privileges with the team have stopped. So if Messi wins this battle, does that pretty much mean Koeman has lost both the Barcelona and Netherlands job? Did he sign the official contract with Barcelona? I don’t see how the president leaves? Him and his team have to pay off the clubs debt out of their own pocket should he resign now - can he effectively go on gardening leave and pave the way for a temporary government so to speak? I didn't know that the president and his team have to pay off the clubs debt if he resigns. But if he steps down next year, does that mean he is still accountable for the debts or he is excused as it is the end of the term? You basically have to leave the club in profit or at break even - if you have made a loss, then you have to pay that off out of your own pocket - these are the rules - which is the reason why Barca are in disarray - the President has nowhere to go Makes sense. But what happens next year then. Isn't there some election in Feb. Does the club have to break even by then? Surely that is not happening given the debts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Koeman must have really f***ed Messi off like Koeman told him his influence and privileges with the team have stopped. So if Messi wins this battle, does that pretty much mean Koeman has lost both the Barcelona and Netherlands job? Did he sign the official contract with Barcelona? I don’t see how the president leaves? Him and his team have to pay off the clubs debt out of their own pocket should he resign now - can he effectively go on gardening leave and pave the way for a temporary government so to speak? I didn't know that the president and his team have to pay off the clubs debt if he resigns. But if he steps down next year, does that mean he is still accountable for the debts or he is excused as it is the end of the term? You basically have to leave the club in profit or at break even - if you have made a loss, then you have to pay that off out of your own pocket - these are the rules - which is the reason why Barca are in disarray - the President has nowhere to go Yeah, that's how it works. At the end of the board's tenure (whether they quit or they serve the full term) they have to pony up the difference if the club has lost money since they took over. Now, given Covid, that would be impossible, so the president needs the extra year to avoid bankrupting himself. The rule was put there to make the board manage the club responsibly, since they are not the clubs owners and thus not liable like a club owner would be. But it's probably too blunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Koeman must have really f***ed Messi off like Koeman told him his influence and privileges with the team have stopped. So if Messi wins this battle, does that pretty much mean Koeman has lost both the Barcelona and Netherlands job? Did he sign the official contract with Barcelona? I don’t see how the president leaves? Him and his team have to pay off the clubs debt out of their own pocket should he resign now - can he effectively go on gardening leave and pave the way for a temporary government so to speak? I didn't know that the president and his team have to pay off the clubs debt if he resigns. But if he steps down next year, does that mean he is still accountable for the debts or he is excused as it is the end of the term? You basically have to leave the club in profit or at break even - if you have made a loss, then you have to pay that off out of your own pocket - these are the rules - which is the reason why Barca are in disarray - the President has nowhere to go Makes sense. But what happens next year then. Isn't there some election in Feb. Does the club have to break even by then? Surely that is not happening given the debts. If they manage to get cash for Messi plus getting his humongous contract off the books, that would probably go a long way to sort it out. They have insurance, mind, they wouldn't be ponying up the full amount themselves (we're talking millions of €). But they are not millionaires. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Love Andy Murray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Koeman must have really f***ed Messi off like Koeman told him his influence and privileges with the team have stopped. So if Messi wins this battle, does that pretty much mean Koeman has lost both the Barcelona and Netherlands job? Did he sign the official contract with Barcelona? I don’t see how the president leaves? Him and his team have to pay off the clubs debt out of their own pocket should he resign now - can he effectively go on gardening leave and pave the way for a temporary government so to speak? I didn't know that the president and his team have to pay off the clubs debt if he resigns. But if he steps down next year, does that mean he is still accountable for the debts or he is excused as it is the end of the term? You basically have to leave the club in profit or at break even - if you have made a loss, then you have to pay that off out of your own pocket - these are the rules - which is the reason why Barca are in disarray - the President has nowhere to go Makes sense. But what happens next year then. Isn't there some election in Feb. Does the club have to break even by then? Surely that is not happening given the debts. If they manage to get cash for Messi plus getting his humongous contract off the books, that would probably go a long way to sort it out. They have insurance, mind, they wouldn't be ponying up the full amount themselves (we're talking millions of €). But they are not millionaires. would this pay off losses thing still apply given the amount of money being lost due to covid-19? Sure they have screwed up royally but they can hardly be blamed for that loss of income Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 They have run the club poorly for the last 3/4 years - tough luck imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Spurs want Matt Doherty Canny for Bohemians over here if it goes through. 10% sell on clause from 10 years ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Seems odd that Wolves want rid, especially for the fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Maitland Niles to replace him I imagine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Doherty has 3 years left on his contract, is one of their key players and yet they're willing to sell for just £20m? Very odd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Nice to see everyone else having so much fun. Ha yeah....It just feels like what could have been. It's just too depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Messi to Man City is absolutely everywhere! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Froggy will be happy to know that the Argie outlet that broke the Messi news now claims his dad (and rep) is in talks with ManU. I'm going back to the booze. Froggy is not happy to know this. On the way one hand, it's Lionel Messi. On the other... shattered wage structure, he's 33, Greenwood not getting a game for 2 years etc. I genuinely don't want him, but I do want to see him in the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I genuinely don't want him. What a moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Messi will enjoy managing Ole at Manure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Got a massive feeling Messi wouldnt be as good in Premier League. Not based on any evidence. Will do well compared to most of the leagues cloggers, but see it being more like Zola's time at Chelsea...lots of skill and good moments, but not masses and masses of goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I genuinely don't want him. What a moron. £1m a week for a 33 year old? How long does Messi have left at the top? 2 years? Is he guaranteed to be a success at this age in England? He was absolutely pathetic against Bayern. He gave up after the first few goals. Sulked about on the pitch. At the age and finances involved it's a risky signing. Bit stupid of you Neesy. Logic prevails though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just wait until Romain Saiss sticks one on him in the 5th minute of his debut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 According to Marca Man United is not option for Messi. And why would it be? He wants to win titles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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