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Would you have Rafa back?   

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  1. 1. Would you have Rafa back?

    • Yes, as manager, immediately
    • Yes, as manager, but at some point in the future (eg if relegated)
    • Yes, in an advisory or DoF role
    • No, not in any meaningful capacity

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Owld Hairy Hands is at it again...

 

  Rafa Benitez has now spent £145m in 3 years at Newcastle. In the same period Pochettino has spent £179m at Spurs - and guided them into the top 3 in each of the last 3 seasons. ?‍♂️

    — Richard Keys (@richardajkeys) February 1, 2019

 

 

Has he? Can some keen individual break that down?

 

won't be far off in terms of incomings only

 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/rafael-benitez/spielertransfers/trainer/1522/station_id/130579/plus/1

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Owld Hairy Hands is at it again...

 

  Rafa Benitez has now spent £145m in 3 years at Newcastle. In the same period Pochettino has spent £179m at Spurs - and guided them into the top 3 in each of the last 3 seasons. ?‍♂️

    — Richard Keys (@richardajkeys) February 1, 2019

 

 

Has he? Can some keen individual break that down?

 

Crudely, from NUFC.com...

 

(Free transfers omitted)

 

June 2016 Matz Sels Gent £5m tbc

July 2016 Dwight Gayle Crystal Palace £10m tbc

July 2016 Matt Ritchie Bournemouth £12m tbc

July 2016 Isaac Hayden Arsenal £4m tbc

July 2016 Grant Hanley Blackburn Rovers £5.5m

Aug 2016 Ciaran Clark Aston Villa £5m tbc

Aug 2016 Mohamed Diame Hull City £5m tbc

Aug 2016 DeAndre Yedlin Spurs £5m tbc

Aug 2016 Daryl Murphy Ipswich Town £3m tbc

Aug 2016 Achraf Lazaar Palermo £3m tbc

Feb 2017 Victor Fernandez UE Cornella £tbc

May 2017 Christian Atsu Chelsea £6.2m tbc

Jul 2017 Florian Lejeune Eibar £8.7m tbc

Jul 2017 Jacob Murphy Norwich City £10m +£2m tbc

Jul 2017 Javier Manquillo Atletico Madrid £4.5m tbc

Aug 2017 Joselu Stoke City £5m

Oct 2017 Mikel Merino Borussia Dortmund £6.5m

May 2018 Martin Dubravka Sparta Prague £4m tbc

Jul 2018 Fabian Schar Deportivo la Coruna £3m tbc

Aug 2018 Yoshinori Muto Mainz 05 £9.5m tbc

Aug 2018 Federico Fernandez Swansea City £6m tbc

Aug 2018 Yannick Toure Young Boys Berne £tbc

Jan 2019 Miguel Almiron Atlanta United £20.7m tbc

 

That list of players we paid fees for does tally up at £143.6m... must be where Keys has got his figures from... though being reported that Almiron is only £16m cost so far.

 

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Jul 2016 Andros Townsend Crystal Palace £13m

Jul 2016 Papiss Cisse Shandong Luneng £5m

Jul 2016 Georginio Wijnaldum Liverpool £25m

Aug 2016 Remy Cabella Olympique Marseille £6.3m

  Aug 2016 Daryl Janmaat Watford £7.5m

Aug 2016 Moussa Sissoko Tottenham Hotspur £30m

  Feb 2017 Cheick Tiote Beijing Enterprises £tbc (2M)

  Jun 2017 Florian Thauvin Olympique Marseille £tbc (10M)

Jun 2017 Kevin Mbabu BSC Young Boys £tbc (1M)

  Jul 2017 Daryl Murphy Nottingham Forest £2m tbc

Jul 2017 Lewis Gibson Everton £6m tbc

Aug 2017 Emmanuel Riviere Metz Free tbc

Aug 2017 Siem De Jong Ajax £tbc (500k)

Aug 2017 Grant Hanley Norwich City £tbc (1M)

  Jul 2018 Mikel Merino Real Sociedad £10m

Jul 2018 Chancel Mbemba FC Porto £tbc (5M)

Jul 2018 Matz Sels Strasbourg £4m

Jul 2018 Aleksandar Mitrovic Fulham £22m-£27m

Aug 2018 Adam Armstrong Blackburn Rovers £1.75m-£3m

Aug 2018 Ivan Toney Peterborough United £650K tbc

 

The list of players he's sold. With conservative estimates thats around 155M like.

 

Keys needs to hurry up and wither away.

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Is he that thick? When Rafa took over Newcastle, Spurs were already a top 4 side. We were about to be relegated. So to suggest Rafa should have us up there with Spurs is either a wind up or he's just fucking thick.

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Jul 2016 Andros Townsend Crystal Palace £13m

Jul 2016 Papiss Cisse Shandong Luneng £5m

Jul 2016 Georginio Wijnaldum Liverpool £25m

Aug 2016 Remy Cabella Olympique Marseille £6.3m

  Aug 2016 Daryl Janmaat Watford £7.5m

Aug 2016 Moussa Sissoko Tottenham Hotspur £30m

  Feb 2017 Cheick Tiote Beijing Enterprises £tbc (2M)

  Jun 2017 Florian Thauvin Olympique Marseille £tbc (10M)

Jun 2017 Kevin Mbabu BSC Young Boys £tbc (1M)

  Jul 2017 Daryl Murphy Nottingham Forest £2m tbc

Jul 2017 Lewis Gibson Everton £6m tbc

Aug 2017 Emmanuel Riviere Metz Free tbc

Aug 2017 Siem De Jong Ajax £tbc (500k)

Aug 2017 Grant Hanley Norwich City £tbc (1M)

  Jul 2018 Mikel Merino Real Sociedad £10m

Jul 2018 Chancel Mbemba FC Porto £tbc (5M)

Jul 2018 Matz Sels Strasbourg £4m

Jul 2018 Aleksandar Mitrovic Fulham £22m-£27m

Aug 2018 Adam Armstrong Blackburn Rovers £1.75m-£3m

Aug 2018 Ivan Toney Peterborough United £650K tbc

 

The list of players he's sold. With conservative estimates thats around 155M like.

 

Keys needs to hurry up and wither away.

 

You’d have save a lot of effort just with the last line.

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Only thing that makes me think he's staying is almirion saying he only joined to work with Rafa. Wonder if Rafa told him he's sticking around? Still doubt he's going to, if he does will be out of pity for us fans  :lol:

 

Where did he say that?

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i'm edging toward him staying now slightly

 

i do wonder if he'll play proper hardball now as his contract will presumably expire end of june or whatever...agree a certain number of deals in principle by then or i'll not extend

 

if he gets the basic demands he has he'll stay imo, likes it too much

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Thing is, Rafa has worked hard on this squad and although it lacks star dust, it has an excellent nucleus of players. Players like Lejeune, Dubravka, Schar, Almiron and Rondon (if we can get another 12 months), are the starting point of something good.

 

If they can just put the effort into getting Rafa 3 more quality players in the summer I.e more Almiron's less Muto's, he might decided to preserve with his project.

 

FWIW, I don't think Rafa wants to leave, he just wants Charnley and Ashley yo show him that he's not wasting his time.

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If I was Rafa the only way i would stay is if the board gave me complete control over transfers and specified a transfer budget at the start of every season + fees generated from player sales. Otherwise it's just more seasons of perpetual frustration and being totally in the dark.

 

Even if that meant stipulating no players over the age of 26 unless they cost less than £3m. Or capping wages at £50k per week.

Even if that budget is only £25m per season, doesn't matter. Rafa is the most qualified man at the club to be making decisions on players and keeping him in the dark about transfers and budgets makes no sense whatsoever. Leaving it all to Charnley and that other stooge is a fucking mockery!

 

 

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i'm edging toward him staying now slightly

 

i do wonder if he'll play proper hardball now as his contract will presumably expire end of june or whatever...agree a certain number of deals in principle by then or i'll not extend

 

if he gets the basic demands he has he'll stay imo, likes it too much

 

 

Pretty much this, don’t forget he gets well paid and is adored too.

 

A few days has changed so much except the demon still in control.

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He, bizarrely, sounds like he might stay.

 

He's always wanted to stay, but he'll want a team that can at least compete with the top end clubs. All he's said there is that he's got a couple of players which will help, but reading between the lines, he will want a few more in the Almiron category for him to sign on again. If anything, Charnley's divulging of the club dithering over costs might make him realise he's fighting a losing battle. We could have had Almiron a year ago ffs.

 

 

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