TooonDoom Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 There is a thread on RTG about lower league football not starting again until they are allowed crowds. A lot of the clubs are not financially viable without that income. If that’s the case getting out of league 1 via an extended play off is absolutely huge for them. They could end up with no football at all for half of next season as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazy Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Well this should be delicious reading! https://theathletic.com/1820492/2020/05/19/unravelling-sunderland-netflix-allardyce-short-kirchhoff-borini-cattermole-coleman/?source=user_shared_article anyone got a copy/paste of that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Well this should be delicious reading! https://theathletic.com/1820492/2020/05/19/unravelling-sunderland-netflix-allardyce-short-kirchhoff-borini-cattermole-coleman/?source=user_shared_article anyone got a copy/paste of that? Absolutely not. Don't be a dick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Well this should be delicious reading! https://theathletic.com/1820492/2020/05/19/unravelling-sunderland-netflix-allardyce-short-kirchhoff-borini-cattermole-coleman/?source=user_shared_article anyone got a copy/paste of that? Well this should be delicious reading! https://theathletic.com/1820492/2020/05/19/unravelling-sunderland-netflix-allardyce-short-kirchhoff-borini-cattermole-coleman/?source=user_shared_article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 That athletic thing was a very good read. Pleased I signed up for it now, there's some top class, in depth reporting that you just don't get elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Well this should be delicious reading! https://theathletic.com/1820492/2020/05/19/unravelling-sunderland-netflix-allardyce-short-kirchhoff-borini-cattermole-coleman/?source=user_shared_article anyone got a copy/paste of that? It's been copied and pasted on RTG and is available to read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 That athletic thing was a very good read. Pleased I signed up for it now, there's some top class, in depth reporting that you just don't get elsewhere. Agree about the Athletic subscription, it's absolutely worth it and would be even more essential if everything goes as planned with the takeover. About the Sunderland piece - it's a good retrospection but I was hoping they've dug into The Don's tenure. It's a bit sad that because of their fall, they can't even get the media interested enough to investigate their charlatan owners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 This line is brutal. Then, Sunderland were still a big football club with possibilities, rather than a box set Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 I wonder why STID didn’t include the Ellis Short interview? Goes against the narrative? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 I wonder why STID didn’t include the Ellis Short interview? Goes against the narrative? My guess is it probably included details that have come to light in the last fortnight about Stewart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 These lot like to tell us that Ashley saved us from being a disaster / another Leeds and Pompey due to the debt he inherited (mist of which was due to expanding the ground to level seven which was secured against 40K season ticket payments until 2015) yet St Niall left them with £40m of debts to Short but they absolutely SLATE Short! Mackem logic! Does anyone know how much in total he spent on them? He must DESPISE Niall Quinn! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Silent Face Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Watching STID the other day one of the main things that stands out is their keepers in the championship season. Jason Steele man my word. Even the commentator at that Celtic friendly said " oh no everything on target is going in!". How they went through most the season with him is incredible. Sure he was/is a mag an all! If they spent 1m on a half decent keeper they would still be in the championship now. I don't get why Short just let them fall like that either, surely it would have been worth him spending even 5m of the Pickford money and that would have at least kept them from going to league 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 It's here for non-subscribers: https://justpaste.it/1zwc6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Watching STID the other day one of the main things that stands out is their keepers in the championship season. Jason Steele man my word. Even the commentator at that Celtic friendly said " oh no everything on target is going in!". How they went through most the season with him is incredible. Sure he was/is a mag an all! If they spent 1m on a half decent keeper they would still be in the championship now. I don't get why Short just let them fall like that either, surely it would have been worth him spending even 5m of the Pickford money and that would have at least kept them from going to league 1 If it weren’t for the producers being MLFs, you could be forgiven for thinking the goalkeepers were a plant to send Sunderland down, they were shocking. They featured heavily in the first 2 episodes too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 This line is brutal. Then, Sunderland were still a big football club with possibilities, rather than a box set This brings me to something I've been wondering recently. Why is everything a box set even if it's not in a box set? Surely a purely streaming show would not be considered a box set? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 This line is brutal. Then, Sunderland were still a big football club with possibilities, rather than a box set This brings me to something I've been wondering recently. Why is everything a box set even if it's not in a box set? Surely a purely streaming show would not be considered a box set? Think TV shows/series get called a 'box set' when all episodes are available to watch immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Harry Redknapp on the PeterCrouch podcast saying he wants To buy a club possibly in league one, league two or conference. A club with potential. Pretty pretty please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Silent Face Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Watching STID the other day one of the main things that stands out is their keepers in the championship season. Jason Steele man my word. Even the commentator at that Celtic friendly said " oh no everything on target is going in!". How they went through most the season with him is incredible. Sure he was/is a mag an all! If they spent 1m on a half decent keeper they would still be in the championship now. I don't get why Short just let them fall like that either, surely it would have been worth him spending even 5m of the Pickford money and that would have at least kept them from going to league 1 If it weren’t for the producers being MLFs, you could be forgiven for thinking the goalkeepers were a plant to send Sunderland down, they were shocking. They featured heavily in the first 2 episodes too. Yep, I am adamant that was the case with Steele. I know for a fact he used to get a bus up to Newcastle home games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 A great read, that Athletic piece. I even felt a bit sad for them (know plenty of sound fans) but I found myself thinking that the graph of league positions would make a great t shirt that championship season freefall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Bad news for this shower following the EFL Board meeting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Clubs will still be promoted and relegated from the three divisions of the English Football League if seasons are ended amid the coronavirus crisis. Play-offs will also be played, but with no more than four teams. The EFL has confirmed that 51% of clubs in either the Championship, League One or League Two need to agree for a campaign to be curtailed. If a season is ended, the final table will be decided by an unweighted points-per-game system. Clubs voted to end the League Two campaign immediately on 15 May, also proposing that no team should be relegated to the National League. However, with the EFL including relegation in its framework for curtailing a season early, Stevenage would go down from League Two. Swindon, Crewe and Plymouth would be automatically promoted to League One. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Looks like they won’t go up. 7 clubs have already said they will vote to end the season on unweighted PPG, and they just need another 7 clubs to vote for it. The play offs will not be extended to include other clubs, and Sunderland will finish 8th with the unweighted PPG being used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ketsbaia Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 It was cheeky of them to try and get play-offs expanded, mind. Totally unfair if it worked but hopefully it won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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