Darth Crooks Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Interview on FF later. Joy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Interview on FF later. Joy. Hope he gives a 20 minute tactical masterclass Oh, wait..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 "Good start" "Can't get complacent" "Injuries" "Can't always play the way we want" "Sometimes need to grind out results" "Fantastic gesture from the club" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I firmly believe that Rafa made very average players look so much better and those said players really were. They needed someone like Rafa to nurture them and bring them on. Longstaffe is a classic example, Rafa having worked with him every day for a year before he even made his debut. I kmow he's been injured but he is a shadow of the player he was. Dummett has also gone backwards and I don't see Bruce having whats needed to bring out the best of these guys. Even top players need top coaching, look at Sterling and How Pep and Arteta have transformed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I firmly believe that Rafa made very average players look so much better and those said players really were. They needed someone like Rafa to nurture them and bring them on. Longstaffe is a classic example, Rafa having worked with him every day for a year before he even made his debut. I kmow he's been injured but he is a shadow of the player he was. Dummett has also gone backwards and I don't see Bruce having whats needed to bring out the best of these guys. Even top players need top coaching, look at Sterling and How Pep and Arteta have transformed him. that's the difference between elite managers and PFM type garbage, guys like rafa will improve everything across the board...obviously a handful will not take to methods or personalities and in the main top managers will improve most of the players and performances average PFM's like bruce will improve a handful if they're lucky, some will stay about the same if they're lucky and others will collapse into oblivion i'd say we've seen improvement from shelvey so far, but i've yet to entirely buy into that, but beyond i'd say what's been noticeable is he's destroyed almiron is in the process of destroying joelinton looks like destroying sean longstaff thrown Ki in the bin completely people like hayden, clark, fede have done well under him but i'm not sure you could class any as an improvement on where they were under rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I firmly believe that Rafa made very average players look so much better and those said players really were. They needed someone like Rafa to nurture them and bring them on. Longstaffe is a classic example, Rafa having worked with him every day for a year before he even made his debut. I kmow he's been injured but he is a shadow of the player he was. Dummett has also gone backwards and I don't see Bruce having whats needed to bring out the best of these guys. Even top players need top coaching, look at Sterling and How Pep and Arteta have transformed him. that's the difference between elite managers and PFM type garbage, guys like rafa will improve everything across the board...obviously a handful will not take to methods or personalities and in the main top managers will improve most of the players and performances average PFM's like bruce will improve a handful if they're lucky, some will stay about the same if they're lucky and others will collapse into oblivion i'd say we've seen improvement from shelvey so far, but i've yet to entirely buy into that, but beyond i'd say what's been noticeable is he's destroyed almiron is in the process of destroying joelinton looks like destroying sean longstaff thrown Ki in the bin completely people like hayden, clark, fede have done well under him but i'm not sure you could class any as an improvement on where they were under rafa Almiron and Longstaff - fair comments. Joelinton just looks gash - not sure you can blame Bruce for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 In Bruce's own words he's not a "puppet". He signed off on Joelinton. Poor signings are on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Has Yorkshire Puddings on his Christmas dinner then went on to say ‘all Geordies do’. Didn’t think I could despise him any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Has Yorkshire Puddings on his Christmas dinner then went on to say ‘all Geordies do’. Didn’t think I could despise him any more. Fucking hell, no way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Bet he doesn't wear a coat in winter either pmsl #oneofus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Sick of this farmer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Has Yorkshire Puddings on his Christmas dinner then went on to say ‘all Geordies do’. Didn’t think I could despise him any more. I do, why wouldn’t you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Because he's a lovely bloke, Geordie therefore knows the club and the area, and also plays attacking football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Because he's a lovely bloke, Geordie therefore knows the club and the area, and also plays attacking football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Because he's a lovely bloke, Geordie therefore knows the club and the area, and also plays attacking football Top bloke, there should be a knighthood in the offing IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I firmly believe that Rafa made very average players look so much better and those said players really were. They needed someone like Rafa to nurture them and bring them on. Longstaffe is a classic example, Rafa having worked with him every day for a year before he even made his debut. I kmow he's been injured but he is a shadow of the player he was. Dummett has also gone backwards and I don't see Bruce having whats needed to bring out the best of these guys. Even top players need top coaching, look at Sterling and How Pep and Arteta have transformed him. that's the difference between elite managers and PFM type garbage, guys like rafa will improve everything across the board...obviously a handful will not take to methods or personalities and in the main top managers will improve most of the players and performances average PFM's like bruce will improve a handful if they're lucky, some will stay about the same if they're lucky and others will collapse into oblivion i'd say we've seen improvement from shelvey so far, but i've yet to entirely buy into that, but beyond i'd say what's been noticeable is he's destroyed almiron is in the process of destroying joelinton looks like destroying sean longstaff thrown Ki in the bin completely people like hayden, clark, fede have done well under him but i'm not sure you could class any as an improvement on where they were under rafa I find the Shelvey thing to be so comical. As soon as someone scores a goal they're deemed to be playing well. Um ... okay. I notice it's the same thing whenever the team manages a result no matter how badly they've played. The performance is just swept under the carpet. We are eventually going to pay dearly for so many players playing so poorly in general and the subsequent terrible performances overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Has Yorkshire Puddings on his Christmas dinner then went on to say ‘all Geordies do’. Didn’t think I could despise him any more. Absolutely raging at this. How dare he say that? Disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I firmly believe that Rafa made very average players look so much better and those said players really were. They needed someone like Rafa to nurture them and bring them on. Longstaffe is a classic example, Rafa having worked with him every day for a year before he even made his debut. I kmow he's been injured but he is a shadow of the player he was. Dummett has also gone backwards and I don't see Bruce having whats needed to bring out the best of these guys. Even top players need top coaching, look at Sterling and How Pep and Arteta have transformed him. that's the difference between elite managers and PFM type garbage, guys like rafa will improve everything across the board...obviously a handful will not take to methods or personalities and in the main top managers will improve most of the players and performances average PFM's like bruce will improve a handful if they're lucky, some will stay about the same if they're lucky and others will collapse into oblivion i'd say we've seen improvement from shelvey so far, but i've yet to entirely buy into that, but beyond i'd say what's been noticeable is he's destroyed almiron is in the process of destroying joelinton looks like destroying sean longstaff thrown Ki in the bin completely people like hayden, clark, fede have done well under him but i'm not sure you could class any as an improvement on where they were under rafa Almiron and Longstaff - fair comments. Joelinton just looks gash - not sure you can blame Bruce for that. I disagree about Joelinton. I personally won't judge him until Bruce sorts the system or we get another manager that gets him chances nearer goal and he starts missing them. Carroll, with all his experience, looks equally shit standing up on his own fighting for hoofs against 2-3 defenders. But let's judge a 23 year old new to the country as we always do. Pepe at Arsenal presumably shit and needs binning as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I firmly believe that Rafa made very average players look so much better and those said players really were. They needed someone like Rafa to nurture them and bring them on. Longstaffe is a classic example, Rafa having worked with him every day for a year before he even made his debut. I kmow he's been injured but he is a shadow of the player he was. Dummett has also gone backwards and I don't see Bruce having whats needed to bring out the best of these guys. Even top players need top coaching, look at Sterling and How Pep and Arteta have transformed him. that's the difference between elite managers and PFM type garbage, guys like rafa will improve everything across the board...obviously a handful will not take to methods or personalities and in the main top managers will improve most of the players and performances average PFM's like bruce will improve a handful if they're lucky, some will stay about the same if they're lucky and others will collapse into oblivion i'd say we've seen improvement from shelvey so far, but i've yet to entirely buy into that, but beyond i'd say what's been noticeable is he's destroyed almiron is in the process of destroying joelinton looks like destroying sean longstaff thrown Ki in the bin completely people like hayden, clark, fede have done well under him but i'm not sure you could class any as an improvement on where they were under rafa I find the Shelvey thing to be so comical. As soon as someone scores a goal they're deemed to be playing well. Um ... okay. I notice it's the same thing whenever the team manages a result no matter how badly they've played. The performance is just swept under the carpet. We are eventually going to pay dearly for so many players playing so poorly in general and the subsequent terrible performances overall. I've said elsewhere it's just Pardew 5th season again. Shit performances, 2nd best every game. Keep it tight and nick a goal. You run out of road playing that way, ours will be when the defenders stop scoring or we start shipping goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I firmly believe that Rafa made very average players look so much better and those said players really were. They needed someone like Rafa to nurture them and bring them on. Longstaffe is a classic example, Rafa having worked with him every day for a year before he even made his debut. I kmow he's been injured but he is a shadow of the player he was. Dummett has also gone backwards and I don't see Bruce having whats needed to bring out the best of these guys. Even top players need top coaching, look at Sterling and How Pep and Arteta have transformed him. that's the difference between elite managers and PFM type garbage, guys like rafa will improve everything across the board...obviously a handful will not take to methods or personalities and in the main top managers will improve most of the players and performances average PFM's like bruce will improve a handful if they're lucky, some will stay about the same if they're lucky and others will collapse into oblivion i'd say we've seen improvement from shelvey so far, but i've yet to entirely buy into that, but beyond i'd say what's been noticeable is he's destroyed almiron is in the process of destroying joelinton looks like destroying sean longstaff thrown Ki in the bin completely people like hayden, clark, fede have done well under him but i'm not sure you could class any as an improvement on where they were under rafa Almiron and Longstaff - fair comments. Joelinton just looks gash - not sure you can blame Bruce for that. I disagree about Joelinton. I personally won't judge him until Bruce sorts the system or we get another manager that gets him chances nearer goal and he starts missing them. Carroll, with all his experience, looks equally shit standing up on his own fighting for hoofs against 2-3 defenders. But let's judge a 23 year old new to the country as we always do. Pepe at Arsenal presumably shit and needs binning as well. 1 goal in 17 though. I mean it's pretty terrible for a striker. He played fairly well against Spurs, but apart from that he's done fuck all really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I firmly believe that Rafa made very average players look so much better and those said players really were. They needed someone like Rafa to nurture them and bring them on. Longstaffe is a classic example, Rafa having worked with him every day for a year before he even made his debut. I kmow he's been injured but he is a shadow of the player he was. Dummett has also gone backwards and I don't see Bruce having whats needed to bring out the best of these guys. Even top players need top coaching, look at Sterling and How Pep and Arteta have transformed him. that's the difference between elite managers and PFM type garbage, guys like rafa will improve everything across the board...obviously a handful will not take to methods or personalities and in the main top managers will improve most of the players and performances average PFM's like bruce will improve a handful if they're lucky, some will stay about the same if they're lucky and others will collapse into oblivion i'd say we've seen improvement from shelvey so far, but i've yet to entirely buy into that, but beyond i'd say what's been noticeable is he's destroyed almiron is in the process of destroying joelinton looks like destroying sean longstaff thrown Ki in the bin completely people like hayden, clark, fede have done well under him but i'm not sure you could class any as an improvement on where they were under rafa Almiron and Longstaff - fair comments. Joelinton just looks gash - not sure you can blame Bruce for that. I disagree about Joelinton. I personally won't judge him until Bruce sorts the system or we get another manager that gets him chances nearer goal and he starts missing them. Carroll, with all his experience, looks equally shit standing up on his own fighting for hoofs against 2-3 defenders. But let's judge a 23 year old new to the country as we always do. Pepe at Arsenal presumably shit and needs binning as well. 1 goal in 17 though. I mean it's pretty terrible for a striker. He played fairly well against Spurs, but apart from that he's done fuck all really. Someone needs to show me a stat on how many chances have been created for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I firmly believe that Rafa made very average players look so much better and those said players really were. They needed someone like Rafa to nurture them and bring them on. Longstaffe is a classic example, Rafa having worked with him every day for a year before he even made his debut. I kmow he's been injured but he is a shadow of the player he was. Dummett has also gone backwards and I don't see Bruce having whats needed to bring out the best of these guys. Even top players need top coaching, look at Sterling and How Pep and Arteta have transformed him. that's the difference between elite managers and PFM type garbage, guys like rafa will improve everything across the board...obviously a handful will not take to methods or personalities and in the main top managers will improve most of the players and performances average PFM's like bruce will improve a handful if they're lucky, some will stay about the same if they're lucky and others will collapse into oblivion i'd say we've seen improvement from shelvey so far, but i've yet to entirely buy into that, but beyond i'd say what's been noticeable is he's destroyed almiron is in the process of destroying joelinton looks like destroying sean longstaff thrown Ki in the bin completely people like hayden, clark, fede have done well under him but i'm not sure you could class any as an improvement on where they were under rafa Almiron and Longstaff - fair comments. Joelinton just looks gash - not sure you can blame Bruce for that. I disagree about Joelinton. I personally won't judge him until Bruce sorts the system or we get another manager that gets him chances nearer goal and he starts missing them. Carroll, with all his experience, looks equally shit standing up on his own fighting for hoofs against 2-3 defenders. But let's judge a 23 year old new to the country as we always do. Pepe at Arsenal presumably shit and needs binning as well. 1 goal in 17 though. I mean it's pretty terrible for a striker. He played fairly well against Spurs, but apart from that he's done fuck all really. Someone needs to show me a stat on how many chances have been created for him. i can see with my eyes what's going on like, don't need stats to tell me, but it won't be pretty i'd have thought again i'll ask anyone booting off with joelinton to watch carroll in the same position and tell me what changes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I firmly believe that Rafa made very average players look so much better and those said players really were. They needed someone like Rafa to nurture them and bring them on. Longstaffe is a classic example, Rafa having worked with him every day for a year before he even made his debut. I kmow he's been injured but he is a shadow of the player he was. Dummett has also gone backwards and I don't see Bruce having whats needed to bring out the best of these guys. Even top players need top coaching, look at Sterling and How Pep and Arteta have transformed him. that's the difference between elite managers and PFM type garbage, guys like rafa will improve everything across the board...obviously a handful will not take to methods or personalities and in the main top managers will improve most of the players and performances average PFM's like bruce will improve a handful if they're lucky, some will stay about the same if they're lucky and others will collapse into oblivion i'd say we've seen improvement from shelvey so far, but i've yet to entirely buy into that, but beyond i'd say what's been noticeable is he's destroyed almiron is in the process of destroying joelinton looks like destroying sean longstaff thrown Ki in the bin completely people like hayden, clark, fede have done well under him but i'm not sure you could class any as an improvement on where they were under rafa Almiron and Longstaff - fair comments. Joelinton just looks gash - not sure you can blame Bruce for that. I disagree about Joelinton. I personally won't judge him until Bruce sorts the system or we get another manager that gets him chances nearer goal and he starts missing them. Carroll, with all his experience, looks equally shit standing up on his own fighting for hoofs against 2-3 defenders. But let's judge a 23 year old new to the country as we always do. Pepe at Arsenal presumably shit and needs binning as well. 1 goal in 17 though. I mean it's pretty terrible for a striker. He played fairly well against Spurs, but apart from that he's done fuck all really. Someone needs to show me a stat on how many chances have been created for him. i can see with my eyes what's going on like, don't need stats to tell me, but it won't be pretty i'd have thought again i'll ask anyone booting off with joelinton to watch carroll in the same position and tell me what changes Or maybe one is not good enough and the other is past it and both are garbage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I firmly believe that Rafa made very average players look so much better and those said players really were. They needed someone like Rafa to nurture them and bring them on. Longstaffe is a classic example, Rafa having worked with him every day for a year before he even made his debut. I kmow he's been injured but he is a shadow of the player he was. Dummett has also gone backwards and I don't see Bruce having whats needed to bring out the best of these guys. Even top players need top coaching, look at Sterling and How Pep and Arteta have transformed him. that's the difference between elite managers and PFM type garbage, guys like rafa will improve everything across the board...obviously a handful will not take to methods or personalities and in the main top managers will improve most of the players and performances average PFM's like bruce will improve a handful if they're lucky, some will stay about the same if they're lucky and others will collapse into oblivion i'd say we've seen improvement from shelvey so far, but i've yet to entirely buy into that, but beyond i'd say what's been noticeable is he's destroyed almiron is in the process of destroying joelinton looks like destroying sean longstaff thrown Ki in the bin completely people like hayden, clark, fede have done well under him but i'm not sure you could class any as an improvement on where they were under rafa Almiron and Longstaff - fair comments. Joelinton just looks gash - not sure you can blame Bruce for that. I disagree about Joelinton. I personally won't judge him until Bruce sorts the system or we get another manager that gets him chances nearer goal and he starts missing them. Carroll, with all his experience, looks equally shit standing up on his own fighting for hoofs against 2-3 defenders. But let's judge a 23 year old new to the country as we always do. Pepe at Arsenal presumably shit and needs binning as well. 1 goal in 17 though. I mean it's pretty terrible for a striker. He played fairly well against Spurs, but apart from that he's done fuck all really. Someone needs to show me a stat on how many chances have been created for him. i can see with my eyes what's going on like, don't need stats to tell me, but it won't be pretty i'd have thought again i'll ask anyone booting off with joelinton to watch carroll in the same position and tell me what changes Or maybe one is not good enough and the other is past it and both are garbage? Check the thread title. This bloke is here because Rafa agreed with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Where are the graphs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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