mrmojorisin75 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Oh. I don't remember that Pardew thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 As useless as I think Bruce is, there is a department of fitness staff at the club and the players will obviously have been given fitness regimes to follow during the lockdown. It's still a Premier League football operation - not a good one - but at least the minimum requirements will have been done. It's just a question of how effective they are. Which I imagine not very. For instance if, when we start up again, ASM pulls his hamstring after his first meaningful sprint, like that Spurs away game, would I be surprised? No. But it doesn't mean he wasn't given a fitness regime to follow for the past two months. Correct. The club still has a decent (not great) fitness and medical set up. The difference is in how their advice is used - Rafa trusted the advice and the data - Bruce prefers to go with a players gut feeling and hence has often caused further injuries buy playing clearly not match fit or fully recovered players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 As useless as I think Bruce is, there is a department of fitness staff at the club and the players will obviously have been given fitness regimes to follow during the lockdown. It's still a Premier League football operation - not a good one - but at least the minimum requirements will have been done. It's just a question of how effective they are. Which I imagine not very. For instance if, when we start up again, ASM pulls his hamstring after his first meaningful sprint, like that Spurs away game, would I be surprised? No. But it doesn't mean he wasn't given a fitness regime to follow for the past two months. Correct. The club still has a decent (not great) fitness and medical set up. The difference is in how their advice is used - Rafa trusted the advice and the data - Bruce prefers to go with a players gut feeling and hence has often caused further injuries buy playing clearly not match fit or fully recovered players. Fair points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Id say that between Arsenal 4-4 and The summer after we finished 5th there was probably for all that time a slight majority on this forum in favour of Pardew as manager. You couldn’t just target Ian W for that one! definitely. the results were better than the performances though. I didnt like Pardew but could put up with him as we had some decent players who seemed to be winning matches. And I thought the summer transfers would improve us still further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 As useless as I think Bruce is, there is a department of fitness staff at the club and the players will obviously have been given fitness regimes to follow during the lockdown. It's still a Premier League football operation - not a good one - but at least the minimum requirements will have been done. It's just a question of how effective they are. Which I imagine not very. For instance if, when we start up again, ASM pulls his hamstring after his first meaningful sprint, like that Spurs away game, would I be surprised? No. But it doesn't mean he wasn't given a fitness regime to follow for the past two months. Correct. The club still has a decent (not great) fitness and medical set up. The difference is in how their advice is used - Rafa trusted the advice and the data - Bruce prefers to go with a players gut feeling and hence has often caused further injuries buy playing clearly not match fit or fully recovered players. Sorry, but this is nonense. He fell out with ASM earlier in the season for doing the exact opposite of what you suggest here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 As useless as I think Bruce is, there is a department of fitness staff at the club and the players will obviously have been given fitness regimes to follow during the lockdown. It's still a Premier League football operation - not a good one - but at least the minimum requirements will have been done. It's just a question of how effective they are. Which I imagine not very. For instance if, when we start up again, ASM pulls his hamstring after his first meaningful sprint, like that Spurs away game, would I be surprised? No. But it doesn't mean he wasn't given a fitness regime to follow for the past two months. Correct. The club still has a decent (not great) fitness and medical set up. The difference is in how their advice is used - Rafa trusted the advice and the data - Bruce prefers to go with a players gut feeling and hence has often caused further injuries buy playing clearly not match fit or fully recovered players. I love Stevie Bacon and I want to bum him and eat Greggs pasties together after. Whatever floats your boat, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Sorry like, but these comments have made me fucking furious. Just reeks of the arsehole wanting to save face because, no doubt, there were absolutely no provisions or plans to keep players fit during lockdown. So fucking amateur. Sunday league stuff. i hate bruce as much as the next person but i'd be amazed if the club didn't give them a fitness regime like toon25 talks some absolutely shite like Let’s see when the season restarts shall we. I’m sure he’s spearheaded a rigorous fitness regime supported by up to date sports science research. Come on man. You said "no provisions or plans to keep players fit during lockdown." An insane comment. The players will clearly have fitness plans. So this is the hill you want to die on? Really? NO never forgets, remember. The board has been saying Bruce over-trains the players all season. We've had a fair share of injuries, and most posters have been saying we're doing TOO MUCH fitness work (and I'm not saying that's incorrect - we probably have). We're going to have solo fitness plans for the players. So what is it Loki? We don't do fitness or we do? What is it with you and the black and white questions? Only a Sith deals in absolutes. It's a fair question. Toon25 was basically saying the players will be doing fuck all, with no fitness plans at all. I disagree, and you're asking me if that's the hill I want to die on? I back up my argument with evidence. Most of the board has been complaining (rightly so) about the injuries, and Bruce doing too much fitness work (again a fair point). You can't then say, there will be no solo fitness programmes for the players. Makes no sense. Perhaps I should have qualified by saying ‘match fit’, but look, at the end of the day, there’s no trust or faith on my part that this current regime is capable of adequately preparing players for a season restart. Anyway, we’ll have to wait and see, won’t we. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Quality! http://www.true-faith.co.uk/takeover-the-friends-of-steve-bruce-fsob/ That's a great piece. I still think we'll be right amongst it come the end of the season tbh. Wouldn't trust Bruce to have done any form of prep ahead of the season restarting. Almost certain that will show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Sorry like, but these comments have made me fucking furious. Just reeks of the arsehole wanting to save face because, no doubt, there were absolutely no provisions or plans to keep players fit during lockdown. So fucking amateur. Sunday league stuff. i hate bruce as much as the next person but i'd be amazed if the club didn't give them a fitness regime like toon25 talks some absolutely shite like Let’s see when the season restarts shall we. I’m sure he’s spearheaded a rigorous fitness regime supported by up to date sports science research. Come on man. You said "no provisions or plans to keep players fit during lockdown." An insane comment. The players will clearly have fitness plans. So this is the hill you want to die on? Really? NO never forgets, remember. The board has been saying Bruce over-trains the players all season. We've had a fair share of injuries, and most posters have been saying we're doing TOO MUCH fitness work (and I'm not saying that's incorrect - we probably have). We're going to have solo fitness plans for the players. So what is it Loki? We don't do fitness or we do? What is it with you and the black and white questions? Only a Sith deals in absolutes. It's a fair question. Toon25 was basically saying the players will be doing fuck all, with no fitness plans at all. I disagree, and you're asking me if that's the hill I want to die on? I back up my argument with evidence. Most of the board has been complaining (rightly so) about the injuries, and Bruce doing too much fitness work (again a fair point). You can't then say, there will be no solo fitness programmes for the players. Makes no sense. Perhaps I should have qualified by saying ‘match fit’, but look, at the end of the day, there’s no trust or faith on my part that this current regime is capable of adequately preparing players for matches. Anyway, we’ll have to wait and see, won’t we. Fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 As useless as I think Bruce is, there is a department of fitness staff at the club and the players will obviously have been given fitness regimes to follow during the lockdown. It's still a Premier League football operation - not a good one - but at least the minimum requirements will have been done. It's just a question of how effective they are. Which I imagine not very. For instance if, when we start up again, ASM pulls his hamstring after his first meaningful sprint, like that Spurs away game, would I be surprised? No. But it doesn't mean he wasn't given a fitness regime to follow for the past two months. Correct. The club still has a decent (not great) fitness and medical set up. The difference is in how their advice is used - Rafa trusted the advice and the data - Bruce prefers to go with a players gut feeling and hence has often caused further injuries buy playing clearly not match fit or fully recovered players. I love Loki's Tuna dishes and I want to cuddle him and eat more Tuna together after. Tuna, potatoes, mayo, gravy, bit more Tuna, with grilled cheese on the top would be perfect. Whatever floats your boat, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 As useless as I think Bruce is, there is a department of fitness staff at the club and the players will obviously have been given fitness regimes to follow during the lockdown. It's still a Premier League football operation - not a good one - but at least the minimum requirements will have been done. It's just a question of how effective they are. Which I imagine not very. For instance if, when we start up again, ASM pulls his hamstring after his first meaningful sprint, like that Spurs away game, would I be surprised? No. But it doesn't mean he wasn't given a fitness regime to follow for the past two months. Correct. The club still has a decent (not great) fitness and medical set up. The difference is in how their advice is used - Rafa trusted the advice and the data - Bruce prefers to go with a players gut feeling and hence has often caused further injuries buy playing clearly not match fit or fully recovered players. I love the feeling of his cabbage bum cheeks on my face. Whatever floats your boat, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Get a room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I wish I hadn't coked myself out of LA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Loki feeling zesty today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 It’s no wonder the players love him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Lols Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 In those two or three days off could we not work on something in training that doesn't push the players too hard, maybe look at systems, positioning or pressing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 I presume it's a pointless motivation tactic. Win and you get an extra day or two off. But don't they work about four hours a day anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 "howay lads, lets win this match as i need a couple of days off!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 So the players are training as little as 3 days a week if they win a match? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 It’s no wonder the players love him! It's even less of a surprise Danny Rose is all in on having a few extra days off, the bloke can't wait till he's finished with football. Bruce must be the dream manager for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Quelle fucking surprise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 It’s no wonder the players love him! It's even less of a surprise Danny Rose is all in on having a few extra days off, the bloke can't wait till he's finished with football. Bruce must be the dream manager for him. He can't wait to be finished with football because of all the racist abuse he's suffered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 It’s no wonder the players love him! It's even less of a surprise Danny Rose is all in on having a few extra days off, the bloke can't wait till he's finished with football. Bruce must be the dream manager for him. He can't wait to be finished with football because of all the racist abuse he's suffered Well that's not good to hear, but for all the shitty things which surround football, he's done well out of it as well. I mean there's nothing to stop him quitting the game if he really feels that bad about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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