James Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Be interested to know who is advising Ashley to get Jones, no, way he or any of the people around him would have had any knowledge of him. Graham Carr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Bruce has gone all wobbly and is ready to collapse. No other person would agree to come on board and manage the club. Jones is set of crutches to keep Cabbagehead propped up until the takeover gets completed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Apparently he has turned down the offer of a 'resignation but you'll still get a decent payoff' option and is staying until he gets sacked. Graeme Jones appointment was a punishment of sorts. Feel they'll be more of these things happening in the next few weeks. I don't know what Jones' situation was down at Bournemouth but why on earth would you leave a job and come and join an utter shit show of a situation like this. I bet the tension around the club is palpable. More money? More money, bigger club, ”his” club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 More money and the chance of managing and sorting out his favorite club (Soon). Mostly just getting the chance, which wouldn't happen at any PL club any time soon, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Be interested to know who is advising Ashley to get Jones, no, way he or any of the people around him would have had any knowledge of him. Graham Carr That confirmed or opinion ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Neither Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Apparently he has turned down the offer of a 'resignation but you'll still get a decent payoff' option and is staying until he gets sacked. Graeme Jones appointment was a punishment of sorts. Feel they'll be more of these things happening in the next few weeks. Perhaps this is why Bruce kept harping on recently about how he would never quit. Wonder if that was a message to MA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Be interested to know who is advising Ashley to get Jones, no, way he or any of the people around him would have had any knowledge of him. Graham Carr That confirmed or opinion ? If it's not Carr, difficult to see who else it could be since there's no one else with a clue about football inside the club. If you want the inside knowledge on where to bulk buy envelopes then Charnley's your man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Neither Helpful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Apparently he has turned down the offer of a 'resignation but you'll still get a decent payoff' option and is staying until he gets sacked. Graeme Jones appointment was a punishment of sorts. Feel they'll be more of these things happening in the next few weeks. Interesting....so despite the usual BS that's been coming out the powers that be know it's endgame for him. Just a matter of when, not if. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Apparently he has turned down the offer of a 'resignation but you'll still get a decent payoff' option and is staying until he gets sacked. Graeme Jones appointment was a punishment of sorts. Feel they'll be more of these things happening in the next few weeks. Perhaps this is why Bruce kept harping on recently about how he would never quit. Wonder if that was a message to MA. By my reckoning this would be the first manager since Robson (who was honourably paid off in full) to have not had a negotiated exit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 This fat fraud is getting to 1,000 pages isn't he ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Apparently he has turned down the offer of a 'resignation but you'll still get a decent payoff' option and is staying until he gets sacked. Graeme Jones appointment was a punishment of sorts. Feel they'll be more of these things happening in the next few weeks. I don't know what Jones' situation was down at Bournemouth but why on earth would you leave a job and come and join an utter shit show of a situation like this. I bet the tension around the club is palpable. More money? That will likely be it, and as Collage says, it's his club too. I just struggle to understand why someone would choose to leave a job for another one where the atmosphere is clearly going to be toxic from the beginning. He must have skin thick enough to cope with it . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 This Jones fella doesn't owe Ashley money like Pardew does he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 IF Ashley was so close to sacking him that he offered him to resign and he rejected, Ashley would sack him anyway and make him fight for his money after the fact, especially if a takeover is on the horizon. His pay off is fuck all, any loan deal coming in will cost more. We paid £5m to loan Kennedy for a season after paying £1.8m for 4 months the season earlier. Couple of million max, or risk relegation and £350m...hmmm...tough decision. My opinion is that Ashley thinks this is just form and a couple of loans will pull it back on track, especially with a decent points gap, and that is more worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I’ve just watched that interview and I don’t get the impression he believes he’s been brought here just to be a coach. If that is the case then so be it and let him get started rather than keeping up this car crash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 IF Ashley was so close to sacking him that he offered him to resign and he rejected, Ashley would sack him anyway and make him fight for his money after the fact, especially if a takeover is on the horizon. His pay off is fuck all, any loan deal coming in will cost more. We paid £5m to loan Kennedy for a season after paying £1.8m for 4 months the season earlier. Couple of million max, or risk relegation and £350m...hmmm...tough decision. My opinion is that Ashley thinks this is just form and a couple of loans will pull it back on track, especially with a decent points gap, and that is more worrying. The fact Bruce is following Rafa won’t help. There’s no way Ashley will want to admit he was wrong not to back Rafa and back Bruce instead. He should already be embarsssed and ashamed about spending £40m on Joelinton when Rafa told him Not too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 IF Ashley was so close to sacking him that he offered him to resign and he rejected, Ashley would sack him anyway and make him fight for his money after the fact, especially if a takeover is on the horizon. His pay off is fuck all, any loan deal coming in will cost more. We paid £5m to loan Kennedy for a season after paying £1.8m for 4 months the season earlier. Couple of million max, or risk relegation and £350m...hmmm...tough decision. My opinion is that Ashley thinks this is just form and a couple of loans will pull it back on track, especially with a decent points gap, and that is more worrying. Totally agree. You don't bring in more troops if you're planning a coup. Ashley is backing his man. Will be funny when we lose the next two and the fat pricks are staring down the barrel. Cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I think it’s more simple than that, unless we are in the bottom 3 Ashley won’t consider the threat of relegation and will risk not making a change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmintheChaos Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Who was it I bet we would finish 6 pts or more above 18th and Bruce and Ashley to both be here come August? With the impending arrival of choudory and ASM back I’m very confident on winning that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 My opinion is that Ashley thinks this is just form and a couple of loans will pull it back on track, especially with a decent points gap, and that is more worrying. But Bruce has been on a hiding to nowt since he started. He was ushered in the back door to no fanfare because near absolutely no one wanted him. He has since went on to do a good old destroy and exit without the exit. Imo he will never ever turn this fan base around, he literally comes across like he has zero connection to the area other than his shit accent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 IF Ashley was so close to sacking him that he offered him to resign and he rejected, Ashley would sack him anyway and make him fight for his money after the fact, especially if a takeover is on the horizon. His pay off is fuck all, any loan deal coming in will cost more. We paid £5m to loan Kennedy for a season after paying £1.8m for 4 months the season earlier. Couple of million max, or risk relegation and £350m...hmmm...tough decision. My opinion is that Ashley thinks this is just form and a couple of loans will pull it back on track, especially with a decent points gap, and that is more worrying. I think MA wanting him to resign is more to save face. Then the blame can be on the nasty Newcastle fans that made Bruce's life miserable. MA is probably trying to avoid the ridiculous situation of having to sack a manager he paid compensation for a little over a year ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Who was it I bet we would finish 6 pts or more above 18th and Bruce and Ashley to both be here come August? With the impending arrival of choudory and ASM back I’m very confident on winning that! A lot of people have forgotten how bad ASM was looking prior to getting injured, just because he came on and ran around a bit against an open Leeds team. Go back to the ASM thread and read up on how he was being labelled as lazy and not having enough end product just before he got injured. Most teams at the time were just doubling up on him as they knew he was all we had, and it will be the same again this time around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Just watched the Jones interview. I do remember them doing this type of thing in the past with new staff members but this seems dressed up more. Really comes across like he has come in as a special advisor/DOF almost to oversee things from the way he is talking. Absolutely crystal clear this wasn't Bruce bringing him in. God only knows what the end game is. I can't believe Ashley/Prospective owners want him in charge but someone definitely identified him and wanted him specifically brought in. Certainly points towards Martinez being the longterm choice for whomever will be running the club. Could just be total coincidence. Someone has very purposely chosen, gone after and paid considerable money for Jones though, when there are plenty others on the trash pile not needing compensation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Just watched the Jones interview. I do remember them doing this type of thing in the past with new staff members but this seems dressed up more. Really comes across like he has come in as a special advisor/DOF almost to oversee things from the way he is talking. Absolutely crystal clear this wasn't Bruce bringing him in. God only knows what the end game is. I can't believe Ashley/Prospective owners want him in charge but someone definitely identified him and wanted him specifically brought in. Certainly points towards Martinez being the longterm choice for whomever will be running the club. Could just be total coincidence. Someone has very purposely chosen, gone after and paid considerable money for Jones though, when there are plenty others on the trash pile not needing compensation. I would certainly hope Martinez wouldn’t be the choice of any prospective buyers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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