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Joelinton: NUFC's 2021/22 "Player of the Season"


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I'm absolutely staggered that people on here are still trying to shoehorn Joelinton into our new set up.  He's hopeless! Why are some of you convinced that Eddie Howe can somehow make him run faster, hold the ball up, be amazing in the air or become a goal machine?  He's been here quite a while now and I have seen nothing at all that tells me he is a professional footballer.  Just stop imagining what kind of player he could be for god sake and see him for what he is.  Shite!

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4 minutes ago, Rod said:

I'm absolutely staggered that people on here are still trying to shoehorn Joelinton into our new set up.  He's hopeless! Why are some of you convinced that Eddie Howe can somehow make him run faster, hold the ball up, be amazing in the air or become a goal machine?  He's been here quite a while now and I have seen nothing at all that tells me he is a professional footballer.  Just stop imagining what kind of player he could be for god sake and see him for what he is.  Shite!

I think it's fair for people to be prepared to give him a chance under a proper manager and coach. Poor sod has only known Steve Bruce.
I'm sure no one is expecting a world class player to suddenly emerge but under better guidance, he might just be able to play a part.

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Don't think he is going to be world class but until the team really starts seeing whole sale changes over next season or so he could definitely be better, I do think we will see improvement in a few players him included, tbf looked pretty good when came on last game.

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6 hours ago, Raconteur said:

You know, if Eddie turns into a player, there’s no doubt quotes from people buried deep, deep within this thread that will make for amusing bumping :bluestar:

 

Definitely be amused if Howe becomes player-manager.

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It all boils down to the clean slate that they are given under a proper manager. If they do well, great we have options. If they don't, ship them out.

 

Joelinton and Almiron are two who might benefit from the new setup. Time will tell.

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On 07/11/2021 at 15:25, Dr Jinx said:

If Rafa was here, this guy would be Diame mkII. His place is obviously much deeper.

 

That pass for Wilson last night was exquisite too btw.

How is it obvious that he should play much deeper? How deep are you suggesting?

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I cant wait to see how he responds to Howe like. Same with Hendrick and especially Lewis.

 

I can't see big Jow becoming world class but if Howe can find his best spot or give him some specific instructions and a job to do, then hopefully he should improve.

 

 

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That's right, good managers have systematic approaches to tackling a particular opponent and will clearly communicate each player's role in the system. You can do wonders with limited players by making them "functional" whatever their skill level. We need Howe to find everyone's function and optimise them if we're to stay up.

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While I am optmistic that Howe will get better performances from a number of our players, I am a bit put off by suggestions that he'll unlock overlooked talents by trying players out at different positions on the pitch.  This, after complaining about Bruce's penchant for playing X, Y, and Z "out of position". Had quite enough of that, thank you. 

 

Also, I didn't find the Tifo Joelinton video (posted above) depressing at all. It was actually quite encouraging. They identified how Joelinton had bben successful at Hoffenheim where they attempted to press from the front. And that he hasn't been able to play off Almirion and Asm because they're playing too deep and he's isolated up front. It's almost as though the people who made the video had watched some films if Newcastle United-- something that was utterly beyond Bruce. I'm expecting Howe ti get the most out of Joelinton by pkaying him in his correct position and leveraging his strengths.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, gazza ladra said:

While I am optmistic that Howe will get better performances from a number of our players, I am a bit put off by suggestions that he'll unlock overlooked talents by trying players out at different positions on the pitch.  This, after complaining about Bruce's penchant for playing X, Y, and Z "out of position". Had quite enough of that, thank you. 

 

Also, I didn't find the Tifo Joelinton video (posted above) depressing at all. It was actually quite encouraging. They identified how Joelinton had bben successful at Hoffenheim where they attempted to press from the front. And that he hasn't been able to play off Almirion and Asm because they're playing too deep and he's isolated up front. It's almost as though the people who made the video had watched some films if Newcastle United-- something that was utterly beyond Bruce. I'm expecting Howe ti get the most out of Joelinton by pkaying him in his correct position and leveraging his strengths.

 

 

Until Joelinton has a position in which he resembles a professional footballer it's impossible to play him out of it.

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A change of coach should do him good. He has the attributes to be useful as a crude Felliani type playmaker rather than a main striker, or wide player.

 

Just give him simple instruction, like control the ball and pass it to Wilson or ASM and he could be potentially effective.

 

Im still naïve in hoping there's still a player in there aren't I? 

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Howe is not a miracle worker but you’d love to see some kind of upturn in his form, even just for the lad himself who has totally destroyed his career by coming here. Even if it’s just to get him to the level that someone in the 2nd tier of nations takes a chance on him and he goes off to be a decent sized fish in a medium pond. 

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The sheer delusion involved in hoping that he will be anything other than total dogshit and that he shouldn’t be carried out the building immediately worries me somewhat. Give him two games max and if he’s still chronic fire him back to Germany out of a centrifuge. Infuriating footballer. 

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