xLiaaamx Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Leon Best was stronger, faster, had a better touch and could strike the ball better. So aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Clearly the only way that ASM's agent would agree to him signing was if we bought Joelinton too. What... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 tbf, he had a shocker but had played okay in the few games immediately prior. Did he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 His 2 Premier League goals is the same as Matty Longstaff, Ciaran Clark, Federico Fernandez, Florian Lejeune, Fabian Schar and Jetro Willems have managed to score each. Going by that, we'd have probably got more goals by playing a centre back up front instead of Joelinton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 He'd have scored more had we someone in charge who was not tactically inept. SB "You're going to play striker, Joe." J "Okay boss, what do you want me to do." SB "Striker, Joe..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Clearly the only way that ASM's agent would agree to him signing was if we bought Joelinton too. What... Same agent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 After the restart and we went to the 4-2-3-1, he played upfront and scored and then the next game he played upfront well again getting the one defender sent off. Why after this has he then been used on the left and not started upfront in the 4-2-3-1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 After the restart and we went to the 4-2-3-1, he played upfront and scored and then the next game he played upfront well again getting the one defender sent off. Why after this has he then been used on the left and not started upfront in the 4-2-3-1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Another question, why have we not tried him upfront alongside Gayle? As he's done well setting up Gayle a few times this season? All in all I blame Steve Bruce whole-heartedly for everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 After the restart and we went to the 4-2-3-1, he played upfront and scored and then the next game he played upfront well again getting the one defender sent off. Why after this has he then been used on the left and not started upfront in the 4-2-3-1? We played Sheff United first. That was the red card and goal he got. Then we played Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Given the state of the club at the minute, i wouldn't be surprised to hear a transcript like this... Charnley..."We're getting massive pressure and reputation for being tightwad scroungers which we can't hide in the accounts anymore. Go find someone we can spend a record fee on" Nixon "but no-one on our lists is worth it if we have to pay a salary too" Charnley "just get a headline player we can say we spent real money on. doesn't matter if they're any good" Nixon "Won't that just get us more criticism?" Charnley " Dont worry about that...we can just say we spent a record fee" Nixon "ok i've got one. A lad called Joelinton, I'm good mates with his agent, and could probably get him for 22M...and that's more than he's worth" Charnley "Do it" Nixon "The agent wants a 10M cut to make it happen" Charnley " Go ahead, makes us look like we're trying" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 After the restart and we went to the 4-2-3-1, he played upfront and scored and then the next game he played upfront well again getting the one defender sent off. Why after this has he then been used on the left and not started upfront in the 4-2-3-1? We played Sheff United first. That was the red card and goal he got. Then we played Villa. Ah, yes. You're correct. So any reason why he hasn't been allowed to build ont hat showing against Sheff United? He hasn't really played upfront much in this changed setup has he? I don't get it. Now Gayle has come in and looked good, so why not see how they look as a partnership as I mentioned? Southampton have looked great recently playing with two upfront. Bruce is a farce man. Got no time for the guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 What formation do we play with 2 up front? 4-4-2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 What formation do we play with 2 up front? 4-4-2? Yeah, sure. We have nothing to play for why not give it a look, with Miggy on the left and ASM on the right. Bruce signed off on the Joelinton transfer and was out there lauding it and praising the club for the deal. The onus is on him to be trying everything to make use of the guy and figure things out. The guy has looked shocking so far, but at the same time I cannot say that Bruce has done enough to figure things out. The majority of the season he was upfront alone 50 yards away from the rest of the team. The whole thing is an absolute joke. Take ASM out of this team and nothing works. He is the one player that is able to shine despite Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Clearly the only way that ASM's agent would agree to him signing was if we bought Joelinton too. What... Same agent? It would be just like this club to finally throw away £40m on a player and it to turn out is was only a favour to get a £16m bargain over the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 would love to blame his shitness on brewcy but i think that would be harsh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Ah well, ASM is probably worth 40m now and we'd probs get 16m for Joelinton from some sucker back in Europe, so no harm done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Ah well, ASM is probably worth 40m now and we'd probs get 16m for Joelinton from some sucker back in Europe, so no harm done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Ah well, ASM is probably worth 40m now and we'd probs get 16m for Joelinton from some sucker back in Europe, so no harm done. The wages Joelinton will be on means NUFC will never get him off the books unless he'd be willing to take a massive wage drop. Only Premier League clubs and the elite of Europe would be able to afford his wages (and none of them would be coming in for Joelinton). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Ah well, ASM is probably worth 40m now and we'd probs get 16m for Joelinton from some sucker back in Europe, so no harm done. The wages Joelinton will be on means NUFC will never get him off the books unless he'd be willing to take a massive wage drop. Only Premier League clubs and the elite of Europe would be able to afford his wages (and none of them would be coming in for Joelinton). I don’t know that it follows we gave him a huge wage just because we paid a huge fee. He could be on something comparatively modest - which would still be a big pay rise for a no-mark Brazilian from mid-table Bundesliga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Average Premier League wages are higher than pretty much every other league (apart from their elite clubs). Even if Joelinton was "only" on £30,000 a week that would price him out of a move to most non Premier League clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Who's going to buy him? He doesn't even have a decent record in Germany, which makes it even more weird that we spent a fortune on someone that unremarkable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I'd like to see him played in his proper position, i.e on the left of a front three before completely assigning him to the bin. There are ever so slight flashes of raw ability, namely pace and strength. He's not in a million years a centre forward though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 We've seen him on the left and he hasn't looked that much better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Buying Joelinton was like buying that penny stock that was having the pump of its life, right before the massive dump leaving us completely fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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