jackyboy Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 I doubt if we had any offers from PL sides. They all know his injury record and how difficult it would be to integrate into a team. If anyone could of done that it would be Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 3 hours ago, TheHoob said: There's no way there wouldn't have been other PL clubs interested at that price. People can comfort themselves that it validates their view on him but as long as I've got a hole in my arse, another PL club would've paid more than that for him. There will be a reason he's gone to the club he has. It’s probably better for us to sell him cheaper outside the PL anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 There'd absolutely be takers in the Premier League at £23M but it was clear early in the window the Saudis were selling the player to themselves. Who would bother bidding at that point? It's not like you're going to beat them on wages or that they'd sell to you over selling to themselves. We'll never know what the market interest would have been. We paid 38M for Barnes but where were the bids for him before that? The fee looks artificially on the low end to avoid suspicion and keep the cartel clubs happy. It's not a great financial deal for us, let's be honest. With fees at the moment, you have to spend much more than that to replace him, as we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 5 hours ago, andyc35i said: I’m not bothered about the fee, I’m just really sad that he’s not longer part of the squad. Although I understand the reasons why he needed to go, I’m just gutted about it. I always believed that with better players around Allan (and actually manager with tactics and good coaching) that he’d become a superstar for us. I’m just glad that he gave me some little moments of joy at a time when we were rock bottom. I wish him all the best Aye. I'm genuinely down about him leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, Gazzaschicken said: His market value is 32m euros. The Saudis are splashing the Dosh. We could have got more for him. Jordan Henderson market value is 10m and he went for 14m. We definitely could have gotten more for him Says who? His market value is what someone is willing to pay for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Ashley and Bruce era - people just kept saying “all we want is a team that tries and doesn’t penny pinch”. New era comes along, Howe introduces a team finally that tries and it works so well we get CL football again within two seasons and spends up to their limit so Howe and the owners sell one player to keep the project going and now there’s so much “oh my god we’re selling, I don’t want this ffs” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mike said: Aye. I'm genuinely down about him leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cf said: Says who? His market value is what someone is willing to pay for him. That's in a normal market. The Saudis have come in and bought the player from another of their own clubs at an artificial price. Normally a selling club tries to do what Southampton are doing to us with Livramento. Or what everyone else is doing to PIF (Fabinho for 40m for example). Did we drive a hard bargain with PIF to raise the fee? Everyone knows the Premier League and cartel clubs are watching this deal like a hawk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Gazzaschicken said: Don't understand the fee he's only 26 feel like we could have got £40m for him. His wages weren't that high as well. Seems a strange move its the whole financial package. certain clubs may have been willing to offer more than £23M but they wouldnt have been able to offer him the £200k a week he is reportedly going to get. so say some mid table prem team offered £30m or more but say £70-80k a week wages, we may have accepted but there would have been no way maxi would have agreed to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Ashley and Bruce era - people just kept saying “all we want is a team that tries and doesn’t penny pinch”. New era comes along, Howe introduces a team finally that tries and it works so well we get CL football again within two seasons and spends up to their limit so Howe and the owners sell one player to keep the project going and now there’s so much “oh my god we’re selling, I don’t want this ffs” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Ashley and Bruce era - people just kept saying “all we want is a team that tries and doesn’t penny pinch”. New era comes along, Howe introduces a team finally that tries and it works so well we get CL football again within two seasons and spends up to their limit so Howe and the owners sell one player to keep the project going and now there’s so much “oh my god we’re selling, I don’t want this ffs” That’s not at all what people are saying Edited July 30, 2023 by Unbelievable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Very sad to see him go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Really wish he could have excelled under Howe but wasnt to be. Wish him nothing but the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 That videos gets me emotional. I really hope he goes on to do well - top lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 41 minutes ago, huss9 said: its the whole financial package. certain clubs may have been willing to offer more than £23M but they wouldnt have been able to offer him the £200k a week he is reportedly going to get. so say some mid table prem team offered £30m or more but say £70-80k a week wages, we may have accepted but there would have been no way maxi would have agreed to leave. The fee is ridiculously low considering a lot of the recent moves and demands. Either PIF are going out of their way to look like they're not favouring us, or we've got most of this fee upfront(tbf, sky are reporting £30m). The only way this is good for us is if the entire fee is upfront and liberates us from FFP shackles to a degree. If it's spread like a usual transfer then we've been bent over a barrel and been Marcellus Wallaced. I've no hope for pif supporting us in any financial way any more other that better management, better commercial dealings and sensible self generated transfers. Were not going to get the Chelsea/City boost for instant success, and are now just part of the PIF big picture for all sport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Feels like a mistake Curious who was the last player we sold that people felt was an error? Players like Merino don’t count as there was a release clause etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 I couldn't believe we sold Milner when we did tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, St1pe said: Feels like a mistake Curious who was the last player we sold that people felt was an error? Players like Merino don’t count as there was a release clause etc. Hard to say, we haven’t had any good players for so long, and when we did they were too good for us anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, St1pe said: Feels like a mistake Curious who was the last player we sold that people felt was an error? Players like Merino don’t count as there was a release clause etc. Shelves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, gjohnson said: The fee is ridiculously low considering a lot of the recent moves and demands. Either PIF are going out of their way to look like they're not favouring us, or we've got most of this fee upfront(tbf, sky are reporting £30m). The only way this is good for us is if the entire fee is upfront and liberates us from FFP shackles to a degree. If it's spread like a usual transfer then we've been bent over a barrel and been Marcellus Wallaced. I've no hope for pif supporting us in any financial way any more other that better management, better commercial dealings and sensible self generated transfers. Were not going to get the Chelsea/City boost for instant success, and are now just part of the PIF big picture for all sport What about all the money they’ve already spent on us and the money pored into into better facilities and acedemy etc - does that not count as support? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Will always remember him fondly. Very unique player who was a joy to watch playing in the b&w shirt. He's clearly the sacrificial lamb due to our FFP constraints and would definitely have provided this team something we need this season. Let's hope Barnes makes up for it by being effective at what he can do well. Hope ASM smashes it in SA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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