aussiemag Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, STM said: I always thought Remy was more naturally gifted than Ba/Cisse/Wilson, he was more similar to Isak, graceful across the pitch. His time at the club is largely tainted by the way he arrived and the way he left. That's not to say he was "better" because you've got to actually produce over a period of time. I think Ba and Wilson are the most rounded players. Cisse offered too little aside from his goals. I agree with this. We did finish 5th the year Ba got 16? But he got shunted out to the left wing when Cisse arrived. Honourable mentions to Carroll (6 months before going to Liverpool), Rondon (All round game was decent as a target man). Obafemi Martins ….. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 I think it comes down to personal preference... Once Wilson career at Newcastle is done, he will be number 1 post Shearer, because of how we will feel about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, aussiemag said: Do we all agree he is the best striker we’ve had since Shearer? I think so. Mind that run of goals that Cisse got when he first signed was something else when you look back at it. Everybody obviously remembers the two at Chelsea, but you also had: - Raker into top corner v Villa on debut - Flying volley v Norwich - Mad scoop v Swansea - Great counter-attack v West Brom Not to mention various other tap-ins and headers. Felt like he could score all types of goals imaginable. Still nowhere near the overall level of player that Wilson is like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 It was a top-centre-forward's shift, last night. Great strength, hold up play and nous. Glad that he has found his touch again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, STM said: I'd also say that for around 6 months Andy Carroll was outrageous. Pretty much 2010 he was unstoppable. 15 in 21 in Champ/FA Cup. Plus 6 assists. 11 in 20 in PL. Plus 8 assists. 39 goals and assists in 41 games. Short lived (I thought he was shit first half of Champ season) but was ridiculously good that year. Edited May 19, 2023 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Wilson Remy Ba Carroll Cisse Rondon Best Martins Mitrovic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 1 minute ago, ponsaelius said: Pretty much 2010 he was unstoppable. 15 in 21 in Champ/FA Cup. Plus 6 assists. 11 in 20 in PL. Plus 8 assists. 39 goals and assists in 41 games. He was a beast. Probably the best header in world football at the time and could hit it with his left foot. Bullied defenders as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Wilson Remy Ba Carroll Cisse Rondon Best Martins Mitrovic You on the wind up with that Best shout? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Wilson Remy Ba Carroll Cisse Rondon Best Martins Mitrovic Surely Isak makes the list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Not at all, he was really good in 10/11 and 11/12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Just now, aussiemag said: Surely Isak makes the list. Just Ashley-era Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Wilson Cisse Ba Remy Carroll Perez Martins Rondon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 You're all forgetting Joselu. He's a starter for Spain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, aussiemag said: He was a beast. Probably the best header in world football at the time and could hit it with his left foot. Bullied defenders as well. Surprising pace as well once he got into his stride. It's either the Villa or Mackems game where it was really noticeable. He had it all other than the durability Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Although I tuned out a lot of our seasons in the past 15 years or so in terms of actually caring, I did watch a lot of the highlights. I think Wilson pips Ba into second place simply because he's a great team CF. He does a ton of the dirty work, the rough stuff with defenders, leads the press, fucks with keepers mentally but also finishes brilliantly in all different ways. My memories of Ba are that he was a tremendous instinctive finisher and a bit of a shining light in a generally poor era. The others mentioned are another notch below but all good in their different ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 The only positive Leon Best memory I have is the hat trick against West Ham (5-0 was it?) Other than that, all I can remember is miss after miss. Then again, not a lot of positives about Martins either apart from the Spurs rocket, so fair enough @Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Wilson Ba Remy Carroll Cisse Rondon Perez Martins Gayle Mitrovic Viduka Best Joselu Wood Rivière Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Leon Best scored 10 in 29 across 10/11 and 11/12. He was genuinely weirdly decent for a bit after being pants in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, SteV said: I think so. Mind that run of goals that Cisse got when he first signed was something else when you look back at it. Everybody obviously remembers the two at Chelsea, but you also had: - Raker into top corner v Villa on debut - Flying volley v Norwich - Mad scoop v Swansea - Great counter-attack v West Brom Not to mention various other tap-ins and headers. Felt like he could score all types of goals imaginable. Still nowhere near the overall level of player that Wilson is like. Both of his goals against Chelsea was incredible. On another note, Wilson has 1 goal every 100th minute on the pitch! That average is only beaten by Haaland (every 74th minute) amongst the top 25 goalscorers in the PL this season! Insane. Edited May 19, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, SiLvOR said: The only positive Leon Best memory I have is the hat trick against West Ham (5-0 was it?) Other than that, all I can remember is miss after miss. Then again, not a lot of positives about Martins either apart from the Spurs rocket, so fair enough @Kid Icarus I ended up really liking him. Reliable in his first season in the PL and then, somehow good again when called upon the following season, despite us having better players and going for 5th (see also Danny Guthrie). Martin's best form for us was pre-Ashley really so that's why he's not higher, but he wasn't a particularly clever player like, I think he spent most of his career looking raw. Edited May 19, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, SiLvOR said: The only positive Leon Best memory I have is the hat trick against West Ham (5-0 was it?) Other than that, all I can remember is miss after miss. Then again, not a lot of positives about Martins either apart from the Spurs rocket, so fair enough @Kid Icarus 1 goal and 1 assist in the 4-4 game against Arsenal. Also had a goal disallowed that should've stood. He was in pretty good form at the time. I think he scored more hat tricks than just that one. Edited May 19, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, Erikse said: 1 goal and 1 assist in the 4-4 game against Arsenal Good grief, I've had a howler. For the life of me, couldn't remember him scoring in that game! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 On best strikers, the question partly depends on if you're just talking about match by match talent or overall contribution to the club. Ba was fantastic but Wilson's been here leading the line through initially bad and now exceptionally good times for quite a while now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said: I ended up really liking him. Reliable in his first season in the PL and then, somehow good again when called upon the following season, despite us having better players and going for 5th (see also Danny Guthrie). Martin's best form for us was pre-Ashley really so that's why he's not higher, but he wasn't a particularly clever player like, I think he spent most of his career looking raw. Martins will be old enough to play walking football now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 49 minutes ago, Beth said: Martins will be old enough to play walking football now. Funnily enough he has exactly the same date of birth as me, so yes, can confirm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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