Scoot Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Remember, Bruce is a magnificent manager and we're lucky to have him. Pundits actually get paid to come out with this drivel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 The thing is though, what's the point? We wont win anything, we wont qualify for Europe and we probably wont go down, although Nruce will try his best. So again what's the point? I watched the game and I'm only watching it for something to do. There is no real buyin from me anymore. Sad but to be honest I'm like the players.... .given up I don’t get this ‘We won’t go down argument’. We were tidy against a West Ham side who I fully expect to be fighting relegation. We were by no means excellent, just tidy. We were played off the park today by a Brighton side who may not go down, but won’t be too far up from the relegation spots. Everyone else seems to have improved a bit better than us. Leeds will massively leap frog us. Everton have made sound improvements, and even though they ended up getting halted today, Southampton were the better team and on paper look set for a more steady season this season than their last few. I’m not convinced that we won’t go down. Our last 2 relegation teams had talent that were far better than what we have now. Ultimately I think successive poor results got us stuck into bad runs which resulted in us going down. Right now we don’t have a particular good set of fixtures in the league coming up, and we can easily get back into one of those runs where it gets too much. Unlike when we started badly with Rafa, we don’t have a manager like Rafa to turn it around, we have Bruce, much like when we had McClaren, and JFK in our previous relegations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 "I'm not crying - you're crying!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Dunk is better than any centre back we've got Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 "I'm not crying - you're crying!" It's because we didn't have any fans That is an excuse I didn't see coming. Fair play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 It looked like football from the 80’s today, these players aren’t shit but they are being coached into oblivion. I thought we looked ok against West Ham , but only ok, it masked a performance most were going over the top about , stupidly I had optimism mainly through the new lads but as soon as Bruce gets into them they turn to dog shit . That today was the worst display I’ve seen by a PL manager for some time, that was solely on Bruce today but the players had no leader, no idea how to change it , fucking pathetic, no other words for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Absolute garbage today. I’m glad Mike Ashley is watching in person. Like man for man we should be competing with these but we’re a million miles off them in tactics and organisation. Clearly a management/coaching issue. If we pick up enough points to survive this season it will be only because there are 3 or 4 teams worse than us. Like fat chops would even see it ffs. He's employed Pardew, then let Carver have a go, then Island Head and finally Bruce is stinking it up. You really think Ashley will see the error of all that now ? He had a top manager and forced him out. Exactly, and that manager approached us, Ashley and Charnley wouldn't know a decent manager if he/she fell on them. Tut tut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 What will cabbage heeds excuse be today then? Doesn't need one. That team was good enough to beat the likes of Brighton, players have let him down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Bruce has this annoying knack of facing teams at the right time a la West Ham last week. That was a free 3 points that papered over some horrible cracks. Our CM options are abysmal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 That was fucking vile. Bruce is fucking useless and not good enough to change things when a game goes against him, whereas we had that with Benitez. Outclassed at SJP but Brighton man, ffs. Grim. Hope Lewis is okay, mind, fucking nasty that and a deserved red for that cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 The 'fans' won't stand for too much of this before they get on Bruces back and maybe hound him out. Being a geordie won't protect him just like it didn't protect Jack Charlton when he was here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Well that was shite was'nt it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlouismag Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 If that penalty was given against any other team except us, everyone would argue the player got the ball. Not picking on Stifler (much), but I do wish the whole "getting the ball before the player = no foul" misconception would finally fucking die. It's simply not in the Laws of the Game. Determining whether a foul occurred or not is all about evaluating whether the contact between the players is one of the types of contact the Laws prohibit and, if so, whether it was done in a manner that was "careless" (in which case it's a foul), "reckless" (foul and a yellow card) or using "excessive force" (foul and a red card). See Law 12 As a ref (mostly youth, but up to U19), parents, coaches and players baying "but he got the ball" while another kid is left writhing on the ground due to ham-handed way the tackle was done, is one of the most frustrating things we have to deal with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Very few people in football know the rules... including fans, managers, players and pundits. It's bizarre really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Very few people in football know the rules... including fans, managers, players and pundits. It's bizarre really. There are no rules, they are laws, like the law of pedantry which I observe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Very few people in football know the rules... including fans, managers, players and pundits. It's bizarre really. I guess it’s not helped by the fact that we can watch multiple incidents be interpreted differently by referee’s the same referee’s, even the same indictments in the same game according to the team in question etc. Every rule they have brought in for the Premier League has had a different interpretation in regards to you being a big or small club in the league. It’s often said that football actually has very few rules, and everything else is open to interpretation. It’s about time we got rid of that. It leaves it open to abuse by officials and leaves it open to being backed up by managers with a certain mind, and pundits with a certain agenda. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 If that penalty was given against any other team except us, everyone would argue the player got the ball. Not picking on Stifler (much), but I do wish the whole "getting the ball before the player = no foul" misconception would finally fucking die. It's simply not in the Laws of the Game. Determining whether a foul occurred or not is all about evaluating whether the contact between the players is one of the types of contact the Laws prohibit and, if so, whether it was done in a manner that was "careless" (in which case it's a foul), "reckless" (foul and a yellow card) or using "excessive force" (foul and a red card). See Law 12 As a ref (mostly youth, but up to U19), parents, coaches and players baying "but he got the ball" while another kid is left writhing on the ground due to ham-handed way the tackle was done, is one of the most frustrating things we have to deal with. A reasonable point but at that level if he’d got the ball first it wasn’t a pen. He hardly recklessly challenged him. Unfortunately he didn’t get the ball first soooo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 If that penalty was given against any other team except us, everyone would argue the player got the ball. Not picking on Stifler (much), but I do wish the whole "getting the ball before the player = no foul" misconception would finally fucking die. It's simply not in the Laws of the Game. Determining whether a foul occurred or not is all about evaluating whether the contact between the players is one of the types of contact the Laws prohibit and, if so, whether it was done in a manner that was "careless" (in which case it's a foul), "reckless" (foul and a yellow card) or using "excessive force" (foul and a red card). See Law 12 As a ref (mostly youth, but up to U19), parents, coaches and players baying "but he got the ball" while another kid is left writhing on the ground due to ham-handed way the tackle was done, is one of the most frustrating things we have to deal with. I honestly think it has to work both ways. If you make a tackle, get the ball and end up catching the player in the follow through then it should be allowed. If you make a tackle but with excessive force/using studs and get the ball, or make the tackle and get the players in a follow through with either a scissor kick follow through, or follow through with a high or force or studs showing foot, then it should be a foul. On the flip side. So many times we see no fouls where the excuse of ‘intent’ has been used for giving a penalty or in less circumstances, a freekick. So many players throw themselves to the ground and instead of them being penalised for a dive, the referee acknowledges that there hasn’t been enough contact but there was an intent. You pull your leg out to avoid giving away a foul and they still do you for intent. A big problem is the rules fit into place where they largely benefit the bigger teams in terms of interpretation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 29 pages? Do people still watch us under Bruce? :idiot2:so much for if rafa goes we go 50k will be back in the ground soon. Pissed myself when i heard he said west ham was the best we have played in years :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Ashley didn't look very impressed with what he was seeing. He must think 'I'm paying all these SD employees the minimum wage and zero hours contracts etc., and they work their bollocks off. And here I am watching this overpaid shower of shit' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Ashley didn't look very impressed with what he was seeing. He must think 'I'm paying all these SD employees the minimum wage and zero hours contracts etc., and they work their bollocks off. And here I am watching this overpaid shower of shit' As if he thinks they work their bollocks off. Fucking parasites the lot of em. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Ashley didn't look very impressed with what he was seeing. He must think 'I'm paying all these SD employees the minimum wage and zero hours contracts etc., and they work their bollocks off. And here I am watching this overpaid shower of s***' As if he thinks they work their bollocks off. f***ing parasites the lot of em. Spent much time in SD and his warehouses recently have you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Ashley didn't look very impressed with what he was seeing. He must think 'I'm paying all these SD employees the minimum wage and zero hours contracts etc., and they work their bollocks off. And here I am watching this overpaid shower of s***' As if he thinks they work their bollocks off. f***ing parasites the lot of em. Spent much time in SD and his warehouses recently have you? Far be it from me to charitably interpret a stan post but I think he was aping ashley's own internal monologue about his employees there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Ashley didn't look very impressed with what he was seeing. He must think 'I'm paying all these SD employees the minimum wage and zero hours contracts etc., and they work their bollocks off. And here I am watching this overpaid shower of s***' As if he thinks they work their bollocks off. f***ing parasites the lot of em. Spent much time in SD and his warehouses recently have you? Far be it from me to charitably interpret a stan post but I think he was aping ashley's own internal monologue about his employees there. Speaking the truth is a charitable act these days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 aaaaand now i regret it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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