Segun Oluwaniyi Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Istanbul could end up beating PSG so Man Utd aren’t out yet At least you're paying attention. Is this true? PSG won the aggregate head to head between the teams, no? Seems to me Man U would be eliminated with a loss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 That’s a blatant pen for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 How is that a pen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Another pen to Man United, which Fernandes scores. 3-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I hate football at times like. Millwall and then this. It would take a fool to think that no random supporters would react negatively to the player's political statement before the matches. This is normal. Genuinely stunned that we have CL-level referees with no understanding of how to be culturally sensitive regarding these things with the players. Even saying "the black guy" is out of order. Obviously yes. By Western multicultural standards it isn't great at all. But living in Korea I experienced 'the white guy' and 'the foreigner'. 'The black guy' would certainly be used commonly too I have no doubt. In a post-communist country with probably less than 0.1% of the population being black there are different standards in terms of use of language and what counts as acceptable. It's churlish to ignore cultural relativism when incidents like this happen. UEFA however should surely be vetting their officials on stuff like this to make sure every one of them are singing from the same hymn sheet if they're going to ref on the biggest stage. I've spent a lot of time in Russia, which has similar profile, and you are correct, much of this is cultural difference, but it is hard to be sympathetic with a referee in this situation. He is not a random Romanian. It is his job to interact with footballers, many of whom are Black or of African descent and will speak little Romanian. You cannot rise to the top of the profession and have so little understanding. It's been a forefront issue in football for fifteen years now. Mistake, language issue, or whatever it is, this is part of your job and he has failed miserably. Yeah, all fair tbh. It'd be interesting to know how many games he's actually properly reffed outside of Romania. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Leipzig falling to bits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3-2 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3-2 Leipzig Pogba VAR check Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 That's handball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Goal given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Never a pen in a million years. Shoulder to shoulder and if anything it's the Man Utd player leaning in more. Even Peter Walton who always goes with the ref on the pitch disagreed with that one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Was the old Vardy trick. Trip the bloke up from in front of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Greenwood gets across his man and he runs into him in the box. How is that not a pen? It’s soft but it’s a pen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Ref giving Man Yoo every chance anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 The ref is the leipzig game is Spanish, absolute horrific in every game I watch him in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Looked like Greenwood fouled him first outside the box as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 5Live pulling themselves silly over another Man Yoo comeback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Disco is right, German teams can't defend to save their lifes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Disco is right, German teams can't defend to save their lifes. From what I've seen everyone plays blitz defence nearly all the time, makes for end to end games but as a neutral it's a bit samey for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 De Gea’s distribution has been awful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Man United to bag a leveler deep into injury time. My guess - another dodgy pen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Out. Hankook time for Ole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Rashford mixes the ridiculous with the sublime so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Really good game that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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