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Absolutely no chance we're going down IMO, if we do then McClaren will have to prove himself to be one of the worst managers in Premier League history.

 

Think you're in for a big shock - we are in deep s*** already and there is no way  in hell it's going to change with this manager. Any team who can't keep clean sheets and can't score is in serious trouble and boy are we not.

 

:lol: We're 5 games into the season, we've played Man U away, Southampton and Arsenal at home and did pretty well in all those games. Calm the f*** down.

 

Exactly :lol:

 

This was my thinking basically. I was quite positive before West Ham, so I'm trying to remember that. We were unusually s*** in that game but I don't think it means we're finished.

 

Obviously we need to start picking up points ASAP.

 

We've been shit in all our games going forward except day 1.

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The weaker teams in the division have better talent than ever before.

 

This is why I wasn't happy with our summer transfer work. Last seasons squad was awful. Awful. I thought Pardew would take us down with it. In the end, winning 6 on the trot at one point kept us up. IN the other 32 games we put together what... 21 points? Ayoze being awesome and Cisse hitting a purple patch kept us up.

 

We made some decent signings this season but so did everyone else we wanted to compete with and we still have an unbalanced squad. I strongly doubt we'll get relegated but SMC will have to buck up his ideas. fast.

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Maybe it's my natural toon pessimism

 

The natural pessimism of the (non CL monied) football fan, I reckon.

 

:snod:

 

Think you're bang on for the PL clubs Brummie.

 

The whole acceptance of the 'also ran' status has most lads I talk to from other clubs feeling much the same as we voice on here. one step away from a poor season and a relegation battle. Glasses much more half empty than full.

 

My Boro supporting mate on the other hand is cockahoop with footy at the moment and to be honest I'm getting loads of fun and enjoyment from going to watch Stenny.

 

Just watching a more even matched, levelish kind of playing field is refreshing. Plus the way less hype and utter media guff that surrounds it as well.

That's why I hope we give the cups a real go this season. Imagine actually competing in something again.

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Maybe it's my natural toon pessimism

 

The natural pessimism of the (non CL monied) football fan, I reckon.

 

:snod:

 

Think you're bang on for the PL clubs Brummie.

 

The whole acceptance of the 'also ran' status has most lads I talk to from other clubs feeling much the same as we voice on here. one step away from a poor season and a relegation battle. Glasses much more half empty than full.

 

My Boro supporting mate on the other hand is cockahoop with footy at the moment and to be honest I'm getting loads of fun and enjoyment from going to watch Stenny.

 

Just watching a more even matched, levelish kind of playing field is refreshing. Plus the way less hype and utter media guff that surrounds it as well.

That's why I hope we give the cups a real go this season. Imagine actually competing in something again.

 

Starting the season with the knowledge that it is an impossibility to win your league, when you support a club which has a bit of history of doing well, like you, us, Everton, I honestly think that is the most dispiriting thing of all.

 

Newly promoted fans -> Yay! We're in the top flight, isn't it amazing (Watford, Bournemouth etc)

 

Champions league fans -> Yay! Midweek matches against your Juventuses or your Real Madrids.

 

Recently established top flight teams -> Yay! We're midway in the table, that's about as good as it has been for years.

 

Us, you, Everton, Spurs maybe -> No chance of winning the league any more. Not much yay there.

 

In some ways it reduces watching football to something like watching share prices, as the extra emotional part of football gradually gets squeezed out year after year.

 

I'm going to our league cup match on Tuesday and it'll be about the third or fourth game I've been to in the last three years. Before that I was a season ticket holder for years and years. It is surprising how easily the hope and aspiration side of football slip away.

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Despite all the money spent, all the international players, all the wages, the fact remains that the club is rotten to the core and theres no passion any more. Can't see how we can avoid it this year, even the 3 promoted teams are picking up the wins.

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The main problem has always been Mike Ashley and it always will be.

 

McClaren will take this club down. Sadly for the fans...

 

Fucking awesome, because it gives Mike Ashley exactly what he deserves. To see he blew a lot of money to get this in return, is also beautiful.

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The main problem has always been Mike Ashley and it always will be.

 

McClaren will take this club down. Sadly for the fans...

 

Fucking awesome, because it gives Mike Ashley exactly what he deserves. To see he blew a lot of money to get this in return, is also beautiful.

 

He's made a fucking fortune during his time here.

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assuming we lose to citeh and chelsea after losing this 2 points from 8 games is a fucking horror story tbh, we'll need 38 points from 30 games just to get safety :anguish:

 

why couldn't the stupid cunts just have hired a good manager?

 

I know. The guy's a Brent-sized fraud like Rodgers and he's on the fucking board. We're such a mess. We'll win the passing a bit though.

 

I come across people like this at work and wonder how they have any job at all, never mind somehow being above me.

 

They just don't know what they're doing in both cases.

 

Oh, get in!

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Maybe it's my natural toon pessimism

 

The natural pessimism of the (non CL monied) football fan, I reckon.

 

:snod:

 

Think you're bang on for the PL clubs Brummie.

 

The whole acceptance of the 'also ran' status has most lads I talk to from other clubs feeling much the same as we voice on here. one step away from a poor season and a relegation battle. Glasses much more half empty than full.

 

My Boro supporting mate on the other hand is cockahoop with footy at the moment and to be honest I'm getting loads of fun and enjoyment from going to watch Stenny.

 

Just watching a more even matched, levelish kind of playing field is refreshing. Plus the way less hype and utter media guff that surrounds it as well.

That's why I hope we give the cups a real go this season. Imagine actually competing in something again.

 

Starting the season with the knowledge that it is an impossibility to win your league, when you support a club which has a bit of history of doing well, like you, us, Everton, I honestly think that is the most dispiriting thing of all.

 

Newly promoted fans -> Yay! We're in the top flight, isn't it amazing (Watford, Bournemouth etc)

 

Champions league fans -> Yay! Midweek matches against your Juventuses or your Real Madrids.

 

Recently established top flight teams -> Yay! We're midway in the table, that's about as good as it has been for years.

 

Us, you, Everton, Spurs maybe -> No chance of winning the league any more. Not much yay there.

 

In some ways it reduces watching football to something like watching share prices, as the extra emotional part of football gradually gets squeezed out year after year.

 

I'm going to our league cup match on Tuesday and it'll be about the third or fourth game I've been to in the last three years. Before that I was a season ticket holder for years and years. It is surprising how easily the hope and aspiration side of football slip away.

 

Well put. This is exactly it. Even detaching myself from the deplorable nature of our own club, even if we were still behaving properly, my interest would have wained. There's no real joy being in the Premier League.

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