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[AyeDubbleYoo]

We could easily win none of the next 5 as well.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

On 30/09/2021 at 09:12, Shearergol said:

 

I'm not going to go through every team individually, but what if you took their two best (and key) players out? I'd imagine the top 6 or 7 clubs might not suffer as much, but it would have an impact. Which PL clubs actually have depth in every area? I'd argue Man City and Chelsea are the only two.

 

Thing is, Bruce should already know what he's going to do if Wilson is injured, or anyone else. From the U23s to the first team he should have full understanding of all the players and how he can best utilise them if he needs to. 

[hakka]

We're down. Bruce luck is finally out, his time is up. We won't react until it's too late, or we may even simply roll dice on Bruce bringing us back up.

[HaydnNUFC]

If he's fucked off now, we'd probably pick 4 points up from the next two, the change in mood would be that vast.

[SUPERTOON]

I don’t see how we win a game with him in charge.

[InspectorCoarse]

Eleventy 

[GWN]

9

[Guest neesy111]

6

[Guest HTT II]

Bruce = 11

[HaydnNUFC]

10 with Bruce. 1.5 if he is replaced, and that doesn't include Jones.

[Guest HTT II]

Jones as a manager has disaster written all over it, he’s hardly improved us anyway has he apart from the new coach comes in bounce and his input has evidently been sacked off now anyway. 

[Guest HTT II]

He’d still be better than Bruce mind, but a rotten cabbage would as w… actually that’s who we’ve got isn’t it?!

[Big Geordie]

10 - if Bruce stays.

[OpenC]

We're looking doomed, like. I'm not given to pessimism but the gig is fucked

[HaydnNUFC]

7 minutes ago, HTT II said:

Jones as a manager has disaster written all over it, he’s hardly improved us anyway has he apart from the new coach comes in bounce and his input has evidently been sacked off now anyway. 

 

If Bruce was jettisoned I wouldn't care one way or the other if he was kept on as a coach but he shouldn't be anywhere near the role. Less so than the block of lard currently in it, mind.

[BergenMagpie]

Dead certain relegation with Baconsaurus Rex in charge

[Armchair Pundit]

Yep, I think relegation is nailed on this season. It's not like we've been losing to teams at the other end of the table and might pick up points from teams around us, we've been gubbed by fellow relegation candidates so I think it's safe to say the table doesn't lie. Ashley's gamble will backfire 100% if Bruce stays in charge, we may not even be salvageable come January at this rate.

[Decky]

Gone unless there’s a change (that isn’t Jones). We’d a fairly decent run in there and won none of them. We’ll be adrift by Christmas, probably still without a win.

[Beth]

Full on 10 now. Squad good enough to survive but throw in Bruce+Injuries to key players and we are fucked.

[Yorkie]

Reads a lot like February-March in here. 

 

I've not watched a kick this season so can't make any reasoned conclusions really. But can't help but think we'll just see the same shite as seasons gone by. Terrible football and terrible results, interspersed with just enough wins, thanks entirely to our better players. 

[HaydnNUFC]

12 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Reads a lot like February-March in here. 

 

I've not watched a kick this season so can't make any reasoned conclusions really. But can't help but think we'll just see the same shite as seasons gone by. Terrible football and terrible results, interspersed with just enough wins, thanks entirely to our better players. 

 

The luck has run out, bar Watford and 45 minutes against West Ham we've been absolutely dreadful all season. Even when we're handed points on a plate a la Southampton we've fucked it. Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Leicester, Liverpool, Man City all yet to play in spite of their respective seasons. The atmospheres from our lot are non existent apart from when chanting against Bruce interspersed with silence. It has relegation written all over it.

 

Remove Bruce and that goes. To me it doesn't even make sense for Ashley to keep Bruce now: he'll relegate us in which case he can wave his potential £300m+ deal goodbye. Get rid and we'll be safe, the atmospheres will improve, attendances will go up, et cetera. All of this to save around £3m, it doesn't make any fucking sense.

[Optimistic Nut]

Safety is salvageable if we act during this break. There’s 5-6 teams who are really poor (us included) but we could give ourselves a chance with a new manager.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

It’s definitely possible that we’d still grind enough points to survive. But it’s looking more and more unlikely. 
 

There’s probably loads of reasons why Bruce hasn’t been sacked. Paying him off would be a an insult that Ashley can’t stomach. Ashley doesn’t care where we finish. Ashley believes we can scrape survival again. Ashley refuses to sanction any more spending because he’s selling. Charnley doesn’t have the phone number of any other managers. No other managers will answer his calls. Managers won’t come because of the takeover. The ones that would won’t commit career suicide by working under our conditions. 
 

It’s almost impossible to use normal logic to say what will happen next. Of course it’s insane to risk a £350m takeover by not spending some money now, but that doesn’t mean Ashley won’t do it.
 

We could easily see an unprecedented lame duck manager who won’t resign and won’t be sacked. 
 

It’s the perfect storm of ego, negligence, carelessness and recklessness. 

 

 

Edited October 2, 2021 by AyeDubbleYoo

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[Bintang]

3 hours ago, HTT II said:

Jones as a manager has disaster written all over it, he’s hardly improved us anyway has he apart from the new coach comes in bounce and his input has evidently been sacked off now anyway. 

Yes it does. Remember Carver.