GWN Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Ongoing is a great sign, ive a great feeling this will go through, I can be patient . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I honestly think the greatest threat to this happening now is Bruce relegating us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando7 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 It,ll be done long before that happens,keep the faith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 It,ll be done long before that happens,keep the faith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 It,ll be done long before that happens,keep the faith Before the transfer window shuts?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 So Masters confirms arbitration has begun. What happened to NUFCs legal position being so strong, so certain that it would never even get to court? I thought the PL were so backed into a corner, there's no chance they'd want to go through arbitration? The PL seem pretty confident of their legal position like, regardless of the 'supreme confidence' of the buyers. The fact its gone to arbitration doesnt fill me with any sort of confidence like, nor does it suggest that the piracy dealings had anything to do with the decision either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Arbitration isn’t court Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I don’t know much about it but isn’t arbitration the thing that comes before the court case. All parties trying to work it out out of court so a judge doesn’t have to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 So Masters confirms arbitration has begun. What happened to NUFCs legal position being so strong, so certain that it would never even get to court? I thought the PL were so backed into a corner, there's no chance they'd want to go through arbitration? The PL seem pretty confident of their legal position like, regardless of the 'supreme confidence' of the buyers. The fact its gone to arbitration doesnt fill me with any sort of confidence like, nor does it suggest that the piracy dealings had anything to do with the decision either. I like to think of myself as a realist when it comes to the takeover and have been sceptical ever since PIF "withdrew". Where are you getting the information that Masters has said arbitration has begun? Because he hasn't confirmed that in his letter today. He's confirmed the club (MA) has a legal case ongoing which we all knew already. Also, you should understand that when arbitration does start (if it hasn't already) that is a good thing. It is the only way the deal gets done. I'm still far from convinced it'll happen but imo the soundings of the last 3/4 days have been nothing but positive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 He has confirmed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 All these positive leaks are great, but it usually comes before a big kick in the bollocks. So please brace yourself for that. I reckon Friday, just in time to ruin another weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Be done by 31st this as I’ve said before, £250 to the food bank if not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Be done by 31st this as I’ve said before, £250 to the food bank if not 1 day to buy Mbappe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 So Masters confirms arbitration has begun. What happened to NUFCs legal position being so strong, so certain that it would never even get to court? I thought the PL were so backed into a corner, there's no chance they'd want to go through arbitration? The PL seem pretty confident of their legal position like, regardless of the 'supreme confidence' of the buyers. The fact its gone to arbitration doesnt fill me with any sort of confidence like, nor does it suggest that the piracy dealings had anything to do with the decision either. I was thinking along these lines earlier. I mean if the PL are willing to get this done then why go ahead with arbitration? I absolutely love and appreciate the leaks or itks the people post on here but it's all confidence from the club/buyers side. The crucial info would be from how the PL are seeing things. I mean if they are confident an agreement can be reached then its takeover bath time, but I haven't seen a single leak regarding the PL's stance. That being said, I'm getting excited day by day and it's looking positive, however we need to remember that it was "days not weeks" in the summer and it crashed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 So Masters confirms arbitration has begun. What happened to NUFCs legal position being so strong, so certain that it would never even get to court? I thought the PL were so backed into a corner, there's no chance they'd want to go through arbitration? The PL seem pretty confident of their legal position like, regardless of the 'supreme confidence' of the buyers. The fact its gone to arbitration doesnt fill me with any sort of confidence like, nor does it suggest that the piracy dealings had anything to do with the decision either. I like to think of myself as a realist when it comes to the takeover and have been sceptical ever since PIF "withdrew". Where are you getting the information that Masters has said arbitration has begun? Because he hasn't confirmed that in his letter today. He's confirmed the club (MA) has a legal case ongoing which we all knew already. Also, you should understand that when arbitration does start (if it hasn't already) that is a good thing. It is the only way the deal gets done. I'm still far from convinced it'll happen but imo the soundings of the last 3/4 days have been nothing but positive. It literally says on the 2nd page “(the club) has commenced arbitration proceedings with the Premier league” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 So Masters confirms arbitration has begun. What happened to NUFCs legal position being so strong, so certain that it would never even get to court? I thought the PL were so backed into a corner, there's no chance they'd want to go through arbitration? The PL seem pretty confident of their legal position like, regardless of the 'supreme confidence' of the buyers. The fact its gone to arbitration doesnt fill me with any sort of confidence like, nor does it suggest that the piracy dealings had anything to do with the decision either. I was thinking along these lines earlier. I mean if the PL are willing to get this done then why go ahead with arbitration? I absolutely love and appreciate the leaks or itks the people post on here but it's all confidence from the club/buyers side. The crucial info would be from how the PL are seeing things. I mean if they are confident an agreement can be reached then its takeover bath time, but I haven't seen a single leak regarding the PL's stance. That being said, I'm getting excited day by day and it's looking positive, however we need to remember that it was "days not weeks" in the summer and it crashed. They have to go through arbitration before it goes to court. Just because Masters want’s it concluded soon, it doesn’t mean he wants to accept it. Even if piracy is an issue, the top 6 are still going to be an issue and we have already seen how willing to accommodate them he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Maybe I'm getting carried away but I got a feeling from that last paragraph that the PL are now more conciliatory? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I don’t know much about it but isn’t arbitration the thing that comes before the court case. All parties trying to work it out out of court so a judge doesn’t have to? Typically it is arbitration OR court, not one than the other. Typically the decision of the arbitrator is final and binding on both parties - both parties sign up to the 'rules of the game' before arbitration commences. This is different to mediation, where an informal mediator is appointed to try and resolve the differences between the parties before the situation escalates. So there will be a final decision on this, one way or the other. Of course, what we don't know is exactly what the arbitration is deciding. The question might not be 'is the takeover permitted or not' but rather 'has the premier league acted properly or not'. Even if Newcastle 'win' it still doesn't necessarily mean the takeover is given a green light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 So Masters confirms arbitration has begun. What happened to NUFCs legal position being so strong, so certain that it would never even get to court? I thought the PL were so backed into a corner, there's no chance they'd want to go through arbitration? The PL seem pretty confident of their legal position like, regardless of the 'supreme confidence' of the buyers. The fact its gone to arbitration doesnt fill me with any sort of confidence like, nor does it suggest that the piracy dealings had anything to do with the decision either. I like to think of myself as a realist when it comes to the takeover and have been sceptical ever since PIF "withdrew". Where are you getting the information that Masters has said arbitration has begun? Because he hasn't confirmed that in his letter today. He's confirmed the club (MA) has a legal case ongoing which we all knew already. Also, you should understand that when arbitration does start (if it hasn't already) that is a good thing. It is the only way the deal gets done. I'm still far from convinced it'll happen but imo the soundings of the last 3/4 days have been nothing but positive. It literally says on the 2nd page “(the club) has commenced arbitration proceedings with the Premier league” That is confirmation of the statement the club (MA) issued months ago after the PL confirmed to NCSL that the club has raised a legal case against them. It isn't confirmation that the arbitration hearing is underway. That is how I have interpreted anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 So Masters confirms arbitration has begun. What happened to NUFCs legal position being so strong, so certain that it would never even get to court? I thought the PL were so backed into a corner, there's no chance they'd want to go through arbitration? The PL seem pretty confident of their legal position like, regardless of the 'supreme confidence' of the buyers. The fact its gone to arbitration doesnt fill me with any sort of confidence like, nor does it suggest that the piracy dealings had anything to do with the decision either. I was thinking along these lines earlier. I mean if the PL are willing to get this done then why go ahead with arbitration? I absolutely love and appreciate the leaks or itks the people post on here but it's all confidence from the club/buyers side. The crucial info would be from how the PL are seeing things. I mean if they are confident an agreement can be reached then its takeover bath time, but I haven't seen a single leak regarding the PL's stance. That being said, I'm getting excited day by day and it's looking positive, however we need to remember that it was "days not weeks" in the summer and it crashed. They have to go through arbitration before it goes to court. Just because Masters want’s it concluded soon, it doesn’t mean he wants to accept it. Even if piracy is an issue, the top 6 are still going to be an issue and we have already seen how willing to accommodate them he is. That's not really right, it is usually arbitration or court for the reasons I mention above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renrub Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 So Masters confirms arbitration has begun. What happened to NUFCs legal position being so strong, so certain that it would never even get to court? I thought the PL were so backed into a corner, there's no chance they'd want to go through arbitration? The PL seem pretty confident of their legal position like, regardless of the 'supreme confidence' of the buyers. The fact its gone to arbitration doesnt fill me with any sort of confidence like, nor does it suggest that the piracy dealings had anything to do with the decision either. I was thinking along these lines earlier. I mean if the PL are willing to get this done then why go ahead with arbitration? I absolutely love and appreciate the leaks or itks the people post on here but it's all confidence from the club/buyers side. The crucial info would be from how the PL are seeing things. I mean if they are confident an agreement can be reached then its takeover bath time, but I haven't seen a single leak regarding the PL's stance. That being said, I'm getting excited day by day and it's looking positive, however we need to remember that it was "days not weeks" in the summer and it crashed. They have to go through arbitration before it goes to court. Just because Masters want’s it concluded soon, it doesn’t mean he wants to accept it. Even if piracy is an issue, the top 6 are still going to be an issue and we have already seen how willing to accommodate them he is. I love how matter of fact your posts are. When in reality you know nowt about anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Let's say for instance the PL lawyers look at all this and the feedback to masters is "we're fucked, they have damming evidence against us" would they still bother with arbitration? If masters woke up this morning and thought to himself I'm gonna let the takeover go through, wouldn't he just allow them to re-do the test or pass the current one stuck in limbo? Why waste time with arbitration? Is he now binded to an arbitration agreement perhaps? It just feels the PL are still willing to fight which is where I am confused as to where all the confidence is coming from on our side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 So Masters confirms arbitration has begun. What happened to NUFCs legal position being so strong, so certain that it would never even get to court? I thought the PL were so backed into a corner, there's no chance they'd want to go through arbitration? The PL seem pretty confident of their legal position like, regardless of the 'supreme confidence' of the buyers. The fact its gone to arbitration doesnt fill me with any sort of confidence like, nor does it suggest that the piracy dealings had anything to do with the decision either. I like to think of myself as a realist when it comes to the takeover and have been sceptical ever since PIF "withdrew". Where are you getting the information that Masters has said arbitration has begun? Because he hasn't confirmed that in his letter today. He's confirmed the club (MA) has a legal case ongoing which we all knew already. Also, you should understand that when arbitration does start (if it hasn't already) that is a good thing. It is the only way the deal gets done. I'm still far from convinced it'll happen but imo the soundings of the last 3/4 days have been nothing but positive. It literally says on the 2nd page “(the club) has commenced arbitration proceedings with the Premier league” That is confirmation of the statement the club (MA) issued months ago after the PL confirmed to NCSL that the club has raised a legal case against them. It isn't confirmation that the arbitration hearing is underway. That is how I have interpreted anyway. Fair point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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