BlueStar Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Dead in the water, so I've been told It would certainly be strange it being dead in the water less than a week after it being confirmed that it wasn’t dead in the water Why would that be strange? Everything is alive until the moment it dies. So you think pif have just suddenly walked away within a few days? Just as arbitration is about to start? That hasn’t started so it can’t be the case that’s dead in the water How not? If they've had a breakthrough in another deal and decided to drop it, or if PIF just change their mind on a whim as can be the wont of mad bone-saw weilding despots, why not? Not saying there's any actual insider knoweldge on it being dead but I can't see how it's absolutely impossible the deal has gone from the life-support it's been on for about 6 months to dead within the space of a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 The deal is in limbo till after this arbitration, get that over, then we can all either look forward or go our separate ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 It's The Sun like..... [tweet]1369423739419508739[/tweet] Thought they were only after a minority share. Wouldn’t be surprised though as Inter are a massive club and guaranteed champions league football. If you read the Chron's story on BNG just before you read this article you'll quicky figure out who The Sun's source is. If you're reading the Chronicle before reading the Sun, You get what you fucking deserve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Dead in the water, so I've been told You haven't read the room very well, posting that and then just disappearing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Let's be honest, we have no solid evidence PIF ever came back to the table. We know Ashley has taken the PL to arbitration, but we don't know to what end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 What have you been told? Dead in the water. Try and keep up, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Let's be honest, we have no solid evidence PIF ever came back to the table. We know Ashley has taken the PL to arbitration, but we don't know to what end. You mean aside from every journalist including the negative ones saying they are there waiting for a takeover. Aside from companies house documents linked to PIF and our club being continued on Companies house only a day ago. Aside from the club releasing a statement a few days ago saying they were pushing for this takeover to go through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 It's The Sun like..... [tweet]1369423739419508739[/tweet] Thought they were only after a minority share. Wouldn’t be surprised though as Inter are a massive club and guaranteed champions league football. If you read the Chron's story on BNG just before you read this article you'll quicky figure out who The Sun's source is. If you're reading the Chronicle before reading the Sun, You get what you f***ing deserve. Ah ok, nice one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Yeah. I dunno where I'm at re whether or not there'll be a positive conclusion, but I think the Saudis are still interested. And the ruling the other day made it clear what the objective of arbitration was. If arbitration goes our way, we can have our takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Yeah. I dunno where I'm at re whether or not there'll be a positive conclusion, but I think the Saudis are still interested. And the ruling the other day made it clear what the objective of arbitration was. If arbitration goes our way, we can have our takeover. Pretty much this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Let's be honest, we have no solid evidence PIF ever came back to the table. We know Ashley has taken the PL to arbitration, but we don't know to what end. You mean aside from every journalist including the negative ones saying they are there waiting for a takeover. Aside from companies house documents linked to PIF and our club being continued on Companies house only a day ago. Aside from the club releasing a statement a few days ago saying they were pushing for this takeover to go through. I was very positive it would go through until PIF withdrew. It turns out a lot of journalists were misled by their sources, so I certainly wouldn't be in a rush to believe them this time around. Similarly the higher ups at the club are proven liars so I'd take that with a pinch of salt too. The Companies House stuff is interesting though. As is the stuff linked to Stavely's case against Barclays. I'd be absolutely delighted if it went through and we could finally look forward to rebuilding the club, but I wouldn't be at all suprised if arbitration ended with a tidy settlement for Mike and everyone moving on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Yeah. I dunno where I'm at re whether or not there'll be a positive conclusion, but I think the Saudis are still interested. And the ruling the other day made it clear what the objective of arbitration was. If arbitration goes our way, we can have our takeover. If it went our way, would it not mean the PL had to come to a decision (as opposed to leaving us hanging again)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Let's be honest, we have no solid evidence PIF ever came back to the table. We know Ashley has taken the PL to arbitration, but we don't know to what end. You mean aside from every journalist including the negative ones saying they are there waiting for a takeover. Aside from companies house documents linked to PIF and our club being continued on Companies house only a day ago. Aside from the club releasing a statement a few days ago saying they were pushing for this takeover to go through. I was very positive it would go through until PIF withdrew. It turns out a lot of journalists were misled by their sources, so I certainly wouldn't be in a rush to believe them this time around. Similarly the higher ups at the club are proven liars so I'd take that with a pinch of salt too. The Companies House stuff is interesting though. As is the stuff linked to Stavely's case against Barclays. I'd be absolutely delighted if it went through and we could finally look forward to rebuilding the club, but I wouldn't be at all suprised if arbitration ended with a tidy settlement for Mike and everyone moving on. Were they mislead by their sources or were their sources mislead by the EPL? Seems apparent that AS has been pretty much spot on with what she said after the takeover initially fell through and the talk of piracy being an issue is only really applicable to the KSA, which of course is the whole point of arbritation and the reason AS may have felt was nothing to do with them. As tenuous as that may be I dont see why they'd take any other stance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Let's be honest, we have no solid evidence PIF ever came back to the table. We know Ashley has taken the PL to arbitration, but we don't know to what end. You mean aside from every journalist including the negative ones saying they are there waiting for a takeover. Aside from companies house documents linked to PIF and our club being continued on Companies house only a day ago. Aside from the club releasing a statement a few days ago saying they were pushing for this takeover to go through. I was very positive it would go through until PIF withdrew. It turns out a lot of journalists were misled by their sources, so I certainly wouldn't be in a rush to believe them this time around. Similarly the higher ups at the club are proven liars so I'd take that with a pinch of salt too. The Companies House stuff is interesting though. As is the stuff linked to Stavely's case against Barclays. I'd be absolutely delighted if it went through and we could finally look forward to rebuilding the club, but I wouldn't be at all suprised if arbitration ended with a tidy settlement for Mike and everyone moving on. Have you not yet heard what the Arbitration Panel are (and are not) looking into? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Sounds like we wasted about 4 months challenging the neutral arbitrator, and are now considering wasting even more time appealing that failure. Nobody seems to fully understand the strategy - that third arbitrator was selected in the normal way and confirmed he was neutral. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I have, but the parties are still able to settle. I'd imagine Mike will want his £300 million but it'll depend on how things are looking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Yeah. I dunno where I'm at re whether or not there'll be a positive conclusion, but I think the Saudis are still interested. And the ruling the other day made it clear what the objective of arbitration was. If arbitration goes our way, we can have our takeover. If it went our way, would it not mean the PL had to come to a decision (as opposed to leaving us hanging again)? My interpretation of the documents the other day was that arbitration will effectively concurrently consider a: whether or not the PL acted lawfully in being unsatisfied with the evidence provided to them re separation, and b: the fundamental argument regarding whether or not KSA and PIF are separate entities. You can't consider point A without considering point B, so I assume everything's going to be laid out. If either one of those two arguments land in our favour, we're good to go. I don't think we'll appeal the recent decision regarding the arbitrator. Probably just bluster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Another day, another meltdown, I think I'll just wait for the club or those involved in the takeover to make an official statement before I wet the bed. Since when did we take The S*n as gospel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I'm not sure anyone has given any weight to The Sun article. Fingers crossed arbitration goes in our favour and PIF are still interested in the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I'm not sure anyone has given any weight to The Sun article. Fingers crossed arbitration goes in our favour and PIF are still interested in the club. They have to be still interested otherwise it would be utterly pointless Ashley paying all this money in legal fees for arbitration only for them not to be interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I'm not sure anyone has given any weight to The Sun article. Fingers crossed arbitration goes in our favour and PIF are still interested in the club. They have to be still interested otherwise it would be utterly pointless Ashley paying all this money in legal fees for arbitration only for them not to be interested. It wouldn't be pointless, if the arbitration determines that the PL didn't act lawfully he'd probably then have a pretty strong case to take the PL to court for damages if it caused the deal to not go ahead. I'm not saying that is the reason he is or was first pursuing arbitration but it would be a reason to continue with it even if the deal is dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Ben's usually a fair account Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Can we once and for all put this fallacy to bed that Ashley is just out for damages? How many journalists have to disregard it before people stop using it to shine a negative light on the arbitration proceedings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just lazy journalism at its finest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just lazy journalism at its finest. Seems more like a desperate attempt at content rather than actual journalism. Not that there's much separation between the two any more anyway like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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