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Fantail Breeze

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4 minutes ago, MickMack said:

You seem a little bitter, you’re not jealous Keith is getting more attention than you are you? 

I couldn’t think of anything worse than publicity/attention, to be honest.

Bitter... realistic.... depends which thread you’re in. I think you’re in the wrong one.

 

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Tbf if that is the evidence I’d be very worried. That’s absolutely nothing a half decent lawyer couldn’t defend. 

fuck me the wording on a letter :lol: some smoking gun that. It literally is a company in Saudi Arabia that’s not even up for dispute. 
 

 

 

 

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BeloEmre

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22 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

Keith has released two of his pieces of ‘evidence’ :lol: A letter from BeIN we all already knew about, which said they don’t like KSA.

The second piece, a letter from Masters that refers to PIF as ‘a company in Saudi Arabia’. Wew. That’ll be that sorted then. Other than the fact it’s factually correct and not inferring ownership.

Oh, Richard Key’s deleted tweets are apparently important too, somehow. 

I hope he’s got some fantastic pieces held back and this isn’t a sign of the quality of evidence he/the club apparently has.

Do you think the clubs legal team would push on if that was it?

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Scotty66

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I'm sure there is more. Regardless, Bein should not be involved anyway at all in the takeover process, the fact they have made themselves involved goes in our favour. 

Also Masters can't really describe them as a company and then deny a takeover because they're not a company. You just can't do stuff like that in his position. 

It's not massive evidence but I think that gives an indication that Bein and masters have massively influenced our takeover. That simply is not allowed. 

 

 

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Fantail Breeze

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1 minute ago, BeloEmre said:

Do you think the clubs legal team would push on if that was it?

No idea. Haven’t a clue.

The club’s legal team are 0/1 in takeover court cases so far though, so I’m not sure pressing ahead can be seen as a reason to believe they’ve got stonewall evidence.

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Fantail Breeze

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1 minute ago, Scotty66 said:

I'm sure there is more. Regardless, Bein should not be involved anyway at all in the takeover pricess, the fact they have made themselves involved goes in our favour. 

Also Masters can't really describe them as a company and then deny a takeover because they're not a company. You just can't do stuff like that in his position. 

It's not massive evidence but I think that gives an indication that Bein and masters have massively influenced our takeover. That simply is not allowed. 

Masters isn’t the sole decision maker. Might not be his opinion that PIF are state run. He might be pro-takeover but the other two on the PL board (or however many it is) may be the problem.

Complete guesswork, but if we’re just theorising, I mean it’s possible.

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Joey Linton

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30 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

Keith has released two of his pieces of ‘evidence’ :lol: A letter from BeIN we all already knew about, which said they don’t like KSA.

The second piece, a letter from Masters that refers to PIF as ‘a company in Saudi Arabia’. Wew. That’ll be that sorted then. Other than the fact it’s factually correct and not inferring ownership.

Oh, Richard Key’s deleted tweets are apparently important too, somehow. 

I hope he’s got some fantastic pieces held back and this isn’t a sign of the quality of evidence he/the club apparently has.

No way? That was it? :lol:

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Scotty66

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1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said:

Masters isn’t the sole decision maker. Might not be his opinion that PIF are state run. He might be pro-takeover but the other two on the PL board (or however many it is) may be the problem.

Complete guesswork, but if we’re just theorising, I mean it’s possible.

I know what you're saying but in my opinion it's blatantly obvious masters is being pushed by the big 6. He does what they say, and that was stop the takeover. (Also by Bein)

Secret meetings before everyone else working out how to stop the deal, and I believe this is what will be proven. It's not how the process should go and should well be classed as anti competitive. 

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Fantail Breeze

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Just now, Scotty66 said:

I know what you're saying but in my opinion it's blatantly obvious masters is being pushed by the big 6. He does what they say, and that was stop the takeover. (Also by Bein)

Secret meetings before everyone else working out how to stop the deal, and I believe this is what will be proven. It's not how the process should go and should well be classed as anti competitive. 

I don’t believe the PL’s refusal was due to the big 6. I think the PL genuinely don’t accept/like the piracy and that’s the key factor in this. You could argue it’s a legitimate issue too.

I think BeIN are more influential than the big 6 in this case.

Worth nothing the planned peace talks leading to Saudi shutting off the piracy/switching on BeIN hasn’t happened yet. A key issue most journalists said.

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51 minutes ago, andyc35i said:

But how do you prove a secret meeting? We all believe something underhand went on, but the evidence needs to be clear and I’m not sure it is - surely it would be done by now. 

Tune in next Friday to find out. 

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Just now, ToonArmy1892 said:

For those who are adamant this is happening, how long are you giving it? It's been a year and a half already.

We'll all be brown bread by the time it ever happens.

I'm fooking pig sick now.

How long is a piece of string?

It is happening, most of us realise that, but we just have to WAIT. There is nothing else that we can do!

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6 minutes ago, manorpark said:

How long is a piece of string?

It is happening, most of us realise that, but we just have to WAIT. There is nothing else that we can do!

How long though man i mean come on, it's a fucking joke at this point.

You going to still be saying it's happening in 5 years time?

 

 

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32 minutes ago, ToonArmy1892 said:

For those who are adamant this is happening, how long are you giving it? It's been a year and a half already.

We'll all be brown bread by the time it ever happens.

I'm fooking pig sick now.

 

30 minutes ago, manorpark said:

How long is a piece of string?

It is happening, most of us realise that, but we just have to WAIT. There is nothing else that we can do!

 

28 minutes ago, ToonArmy1892 said:

How long though man i mean come on, it's a fucking joke at this point.

You going to still be saying it's happening in 5 years time?

Unlikely to be 5 years !!

BUT, no-one knows how long, I understand your impatience (do you not think I share those feelings?) but we can only wait.

Everything I know about the situation involving the sale of our club, and the personnel involved (ALL of them, on all sides, seller, buyer, EPL) leads me to be absolutely certain of our eventual success.

Absolutely certain, and knowing that makes the waiting a LOT easier.

 

 

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The only positive I can really pick out is that PIF/KSA haven’t bought anyone else yet.

The longer it drags out though, the more likely a more attractive proposition will come along.

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48 minutes ago, manorpark said:

 

 

Unlikely to be 5 years !!

BUT, no-one knows how long, I understand your impatience (do you not think I share those feelings?) but we can only wait.

Everything I know about the situation involving the sale of our club, and the personnel involved (ALL of them, on all sides, seller, buyer, EPL) leads me to be absolutely certain of our eventual success.

Absolutely certain, and knowing that makes the waiting a LOT easier.

Yes i'm sure you share those feelings.

But the length of this is beyond ridiculous, are there any examples of a takeover taking this long?

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4 hours ago, ToonArmy1892 said:

Yes i'm sure you share those feelings.

But the length of this is beyond ridiculous, are there any examples of a takeover taking this long?

Southampton last takeover which was rejected but went through after an appeal/arbitration

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27 Apr 2017    Gao Jisheng, was barred by English football’s top flight authorities in February after the revelations came to light during their research over Mr Gao’s ability to fulfil the famous ‘fit and proper person’s test’.

 

 

 

Southampton: Chinese businessman Jisheng Gao completes takeover

Last updated on 14 August 2017

 

 

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Mr Gao’s team of lawyers, though, have cried foul over the bribery claims and will hope to thrash out an agreement with the Premier League that would allow the Lander Sport chief to complete the formalities on his takeover of the Saints – a step that would be a significant step down by the Premier League if they shake hands on a deal.

 

 

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6 hours ago, ToonArmy1892 said:

Yes i'm sure you share those feelings.

But the length of this is beyond ridiculous, are there any examples of a takeover taking this long?

I’ll bet there are millions of examples of legal disputes in business taking a long time. That’s all this is. 

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