DurhamMag Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Candi_Hills said: I’ll bet there are millions of examples of legal disputes in business taking a long time. That’s all this is. Thats the spirit Candi.. Positivity Its going to happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 My prediction would be towards the end of the year, November/December. I think by the start of the season we will know much more about the anti competition case, and that will drag on for a few more months before being settled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Can someone give me a fair overview of what is going on with this? I try to avoid these threads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Scotty66 said: My prediction would be towards the end of the year, November/December. I think by the start of the season we will know much more about the anti competition case, and that will drag on for a few more months before being settled. Unless the PL decide to approve the takeover before any scheduled tribunal takes place. Once disclosure takes place they may well decide not to proceed to a tribunal if documents that the club have are damning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, neesy111 said: Can someone give me a fair overview of what is going on with this? I try to avoid these threads. There's a case about the collapse of the takeover, but it won't lead to the takeover being completed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Joey Linton said: There's a case about the collapse of the takeover, but it won't may not lead to the takeover being completed in and of itself. FYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweMag Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, Joey Linton said: There's a case about the collapse of the takeover, but it won't lead to the takeover being completed. It’s more likely to lead to the takeover being completed than your claim one year ago that the takeover was 100% done being correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, SweMag said: It’s more likely to lead to the takeover being completed than your claim one year ago that the takeover was 100% done being correct Yeah i know. That was based on what I'd been told at the time. I think you may even find i apologised for it having been incorrect. That ship has sailed now though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 11 hours ago, Fantail Breeze said: Keith has released two of his pieces of ‘evidence’ A letter from BeIN we all already knew about, which said they don’t like KSA. The second piece, a letter from Masters that refers to PIF as ‘a company in Saudi Arabia’. Wew. That’ll be that sorted then. Other than the fact it’s factually correct and not inferring ownership. Oh, Richard Key’s deleted tweets are apparently important too, somehow. I hope he’s got some fantastic pieces held back and this isn’t a sign of the quality of evidence he/the club apparently has. Love how you wrote this as if you are somehow justified for sitting on a high horse To be fair, I didnt watch the show in full and skipped right to the evidence part. I also was a bit concerned by the magnitude of importance Keith put to the evidence he presented, but it didnt take long to realise that this is the least impactful evidence they got, and Im happy they included it along with Keys deleted tweets. It seems that they have collected everything that has made this saga feel unjust for the fans/buyers/seller, and if that is somehow not enough then at least we will get some closure. Also, whatever evidence our legal team has probably done its job already by justifying the lawsuit. The biggest pieces of evidence, if there are any, should be in the hands of the premier league. Hope they are nervous as fuck now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 I suppose the reason this takeover won’t or isn’t happening is that the PL don’t want one of its member clubs being owned by a Country which gets such bad international press. They figure it will damage the brand. Everything else being brought up (piracy etc) is just an excuse to do something they had already decided. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, BergenMagpie said: Love how you wrote this as if you are somehow justified for sitting on a high horse To be fair, I didnt watch the show in full and skipped right to the evidence part. I also was a bit concerned by the magnitude of importance Keith put to the evidence he presented, but it didnt take long to realise that this is the least impactful evidence they got, and Im happy they included it along with Keys deleted tweets. It seems that they have collected everything that has made this saga feel unjust for the fans/buyers/seller, and if that is somehow not enough then at least we will get some closure. Also, whatever evidence our legal team has probably done its job already by justifying the lawsuit. The biggest pieces of evidence, if there are any, should be in the hands of the premier league. Hope they are nervous as fuck now I don’t think anyone is sitting on a high horse. Most people, me included, would love Keith to be right. We’d love the takeover to go through in any way that gets the job done. People are just sick of tired of being strung along in some kind of soap opera, where it’s played out in public, Keith trying to sell merch, twelve different podcasts a week with nothing new and the same old crap we knew a year ago. We’ve been led along a garden path by Caulkin initially, followed by Keith, now supposed subliminal messages in bread by a leading QC - it’s all just totally pathetic. People are rightly frustrated and anyone who tries to play it out in public or drag people along with their own hope/ideas make it more frustrating in the long run. Keith was telling us all a few weeks ago of 11/10 news. What was that news? Well according to him it was good news if it never came out. Then the news was apparently the court submission. Well is that bad news now it’s come out? Was that even the news to begin with?... “tune into my podcast to find out and buy a t-shirt”. It’s shit like this that rightly rubs people up the wrong way. It’ll either happen, or it won’t. So far the indications over 16 months are that it won’t. Maybe that’ll change, hope so. As I said earlier, we were told the importance of Qatar/KSA relations and the switching off of piracy in KSA. This still hasn’t been forthcoming and when the biggest snag in this takeover is piracy, it doesn’t look promising. Since the takeover collapsed, there has been nothing of substantial news. The failed court case to change the arbitration panel and the submission of this second case - other than that, nothing has happened. Yet we’re told on a monthly basis to wait for January, February, March, April, May, start of next season, end of the year. It’s not helpful and pisses people off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Since the takeover collapsed, there has been nothing of substantial news. The failed court case to change the arbitration panel and the submission of this second case - other than that, nothing has happened. Yet we’re told on a monthly basis to wait for January, February, March, April, May, start of next season, end of the year. It’s not helpful and pisses people off. There isn't, and never has been, any timetable for the length of time that we have to 'wait' until the Takeover is announced. All we have to do is WAIT . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 2 hours ago, neesy111 said: Can someone give me a fair overview of what is going on with this? I try to avoid these threads. No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Pack it in with the wait pish we know we need to wait. We’ve been waiting for a year and half. It’s all we’ve been doing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 It wasn't THE evidence. It was stuff that was in the public domain already and the only stuff he was allowed to talk about. He made that abundantly clear. However, twist it whichever way you seem fit to construe your narrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Rocker said: It wasn't THE evidence. It was stuff that was in the public domain already and the only stuff he was allowed to talk about. He made that abundantly clear. However, twist it whichever way you seem fit to construe your narrative. Totally agree Rocker - he’s not exactly going to come out with all the documents when there is a legal case pending - what he showed was a mere snippet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rocker said: It wasn't THE evidence. It was stuff that was in the public domain already and the only stuff he was allowed to talk about. He made that abundantly clear. However, twist it whichever way you seem fit to construe your narrative. Whatever you think of Keith or his motives he commenced the legals under anti competition legislation. The club have now decided to take over the reins. I’m sure the clubs legals will have reviewed the ‘evidence, that Keith has compiled and decided that there is merit in proceeding. Clearly the snippets that Keith used in the podcast are in the public domain and were used merely to illustrate how lawyers would cross exam anyone giving evidence to the tribunal. All we can do is wait, hopefully the PL will not contest the action and allow the takeover to go ahead. Should this fail the club is fucked. Edited May 15, 2021 by FloydianMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 hours ago, gdm said: Pack it in with the wait pish we know we need to wait. We’ve been waiting for a year and half. It’s all we’ve been doing All we can do is WAIT, some on here do not seem to realise or accept that. Hence, the message has to be repeated, sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, manorpark said: All we can do is WAIT, some on here do not seem to realise or accept that. Hence, the message has to be repeated, sometimes. It really doesn’t. Even if they don’t believe it’s happening everyone to a man knows we need to wait for the outcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 hours ago, gdm said: It really doesn’t. Even if they don’t believe it’s happening everyone to a man knows we need to wait for the outcome I wish that was the case. So many times people post that "because of the delay" . . . nothing is happening, the deal has fallen through, it's all over live-with-it, etc. That is NOT waiting!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Wait rather than taking some form of action against Ashley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawdaw Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 51 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Wait rather than taking some form of action against Ashley? Did you not hear Keith? “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”. (I’m not taking the piss, he makes a valid point) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Shearergol said: Wait rather than taking some form of action against Ashley? Ashley is our friend, our very best friend, right now. Difficult to take? Yes indeed, but we need him on our side to get this takeover done, so definitely NO action to be taken against Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 He's not on our side. He's on his side. He's getting a cool £300 million for selling us. Yes us. We are the value in the club, and he is selling us to the highest bidder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 As far as he's concerned, we're a poorly trained dog that has shit on his rug once too often. He just wants rid, and would sell us to the local dog-fight organiser, as long as he got the value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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