Whitley mag Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 The Bein lobbying was illegal and will play a massive part in court case. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/lawyers-report-urges-premier-league-to-block-newcastle-takeover-h5mv83jq3 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52375947 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) Why was it illegal, a partner of the PL could express concerns about one of its members surely? Or is the difference between expressing an opinion directly to PL and actively lobbying for support? Edited May 16, 2021 by geordie_b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: The Bein lobbying was illegal and will play a massive part in court case. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/lawyers-report-urges-premier-league-to-block-newcastle-takeover-h5mv83jq3 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52375947 Is it illegal? How would that be anti-competitive? BeIN have no role to play in the league, they just own the TV rights for a set period. Would it be illegal for Sky to write a letter to oppose our takeover? Seems a bit bizarre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Why would he write to the other 19 chairmen and not just to the PL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 It was used as an example on Friday and according to the QC O’Donoghue it was illegal. The PL said what’s the difference between an MP lobbying on our behalf, and the difference is ones illegal and ones not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Is it illegal? How would that be anti-competitive? BeIN have no role to play in the league, they just own the TV rights for a set period. Would it be illegal for Sky to write a letter to oppose our takeover? Seems a bit bizarre. It's explained in NCSL's letter before action to the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: It's explained in NCSL's letter before action to the PL. Letter before action Am I reading the wrong one? I can’t see anywhere where it states the reasons BeIN’s letter is illegal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Bit of a side issue here but we didn't Sky buy Man U a few years ago ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) Masters saying its a confidential process, yet BEIN telling everyone to block it, and Richard Keys publicly stating that it should be blocked who works for BEIN, and who is also best mates with Hoffman, who conveniently gets a top job at the PL. Nothing to see here, all above board governor Edited May 16, 2021 by Scotty66 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Bein are not a partner of the epl they are just a customer of the epl. If they don't want pif to have a share in nufc they can refuse to bid for tv tv rights but that's just cutting of their nose to spite their face. The epl product will be snapped up regardless!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 You have no idea how much it will enrich our lives if Richard keys is dragged into court to pretend he doesn’t know Hoffman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Ben said: Bit of a side issue here but we didn't Sky buy Man U a few years ago ? No, not outright, they did own 9% I believe, in the 1990’s. Edit, found this. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2003/oct/07/bskyb.broadcasting Edited May 16, 2021 by FloydianMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 I was just wondering if they could use the same reason for not allowing our takeover, but it looks like it was a lot of issues combined Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Fantail Breeze said: Letter before action Am I reading the wrong one? I can’t see anywhere where it states the reasons BeIN’s letter is illegal. Yeah, you're reading the wrong one, it's this: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Yeah, you're reading the wrong one, it's this: That makes more sense now, ta Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Just seen the BBC touch on the Joshua fight set for Saudi. To be fair they did touch on some of the controversey around it. Infuriatingly this ammounted to nothing more than how hot it was going to be. No piracy, human rights, grieving widows, protests, dissent, Yemen, sports-washing....you know all the stuff that gets dredged up for our proposed takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Why are we seeing a letter dated October 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, jackyboy said: Why are we seeing a letter dated October 2020 Because it sets out the basis of NCSL's original anti-competition case, which the club has now taken on because (probably rightly) the PL responded to that saying that NCSL didn't have the legal standing to bring the case. The case included that beIN's letter objecting to the takeover was anti-competitive and that the PL had a legal duty to report both it and the reported lobbying of other PL clubs against the takeover to the competition authorities, and publicly distance themselves from it. If that is the case, it looks like the PL might be screwed. Edited May 17, 2021 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Just read the Athletic article from Slater/Waugh. Seems inevitable at this point that we'll be starting and ending the season with Ashley and Bruce. Truly a miserable thought but just seems like the most likely scenario given the timescales of CAT and arbitration. I always feel enthused by the fact that the fight is ongoing, but God it feels like we're as far away from a resolution as we've ever been. Imagine it doesn't go our way, that means starting 2022/23 with Bruce/Ashley as well, and an extremely uncertain future as he either settles back in or starts looking for any chancer who'll take it off his hands. Ho hum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Just read the Athletic article from Slater/Waugh. Seems inevitable at this point that we'll be starting and ending the season with Ashley and Bruce. Truly a miserable thought but just seems like the most likely scenario given the timescales of CAT and arbitration. I always feel enthused by the fact that the fight is ongoing, but God it feels like we're as far away from a resolution as we've ever been. Imagine it doesn't go our way, that means starting 2022/23 with Bruce/Ashley as well, and an extremely uncertain future as he either settles back in or starts looking for any chancer who'll take it off his hands. Ho hum. I won't be starting another season with Bruce or Ashley. Edited May 18, 2021 by Rocker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Just read the Athletic article from Slater/Waugh. Seems inevitable at this point that we'll be starting and ending the season with Ashley and Bruce. Truly a miserable thought but just seems like the most likely scenario given the timescales of CAT and arbitration. I always feel enthused by the fact that the fight is ongoing, but God it feels like we're as far away from a resolution as we've ever been. Imagine it doesn't go our way, that means starting 2022/23 with Bruce/Ashley as well, and an extremely uncertain future as he either settles back in or starts looking for any chancer who'll take it off his hands. Ho hum. Aye, it's looking thoroughly depressing at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Just read the Athletic article from Slater/Waugh. Seems inevitable at this point that we'll be starting and ending the season with Ashley and Bruce. Truly a miserable thought but just seems like the most likely scenario given the timescales of CAT and arbitration. I always feel enthused by the fact that the fight is ongoing, but God it feels like we're as far away from a resolution as we've ever been. Imagine it doesn't go our way, that means starting 2022/23 with Bruce/Ashley as well, and an extremely uncertain future as he either settles back in or starts looking for any chancer who'll take it off his hands. Ho hum. Particularly bleak when we all know he'll renew Bruce midway through next season with a long contract. The current predicament is complete misery. Ashley, Charnley, Bruce, Media coverage, the hopelessness. Fucking sick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Minhosa said: Particularly bleak when we all know he'll renew Bruce midway through next season with a long contract. The current predicament is complete misery. Ashley, Charnley, Bruce, Media coverage, the hopelessness. Fucking sick. Think of the profit we'll make on ASM and Wilson though. Won't you think of the profit goddammit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Minhosa said: The current predicament is complete misery. Ashley, Charnley, Bruce, Media coverage, the hopelessness. Fucking sick. Yeah, it's absolutely horrendous. I think I've settled on the fact that Bruce is the worst of it. I was inconsolable when Rafa left; there was no one thing that was keeping me away, just thoroughly disgusted with the whole situation. But as the pain from that has wilted slightly - really I think it's probably just Bruce which poses the biggest obstruction to me feeling at least something. I know if we appointed a better manager it would still be a lie, and I'd seriously question the new man's own integrity and pedigree, but at least I don't think I'd want us to lose every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 It's broken now though, there can never be another encouraging manager under Ashley. He'll just be a sticking plaster and if he has any ambition he'll eventually be forced to quit. I guess it's possible you might get a young manager who's good and wants a shot in the PL, then he can use us as a stepping stone and not stay through too many transfer windows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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