Jackie Broon Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Couldn’t sum it up any better than this, I’m quite sure O’Donoghue and De Marco are aware of the basics. Steve @oldheatonian reporters and lawyers dipping in with opinion questioning a legal case they have no direct involvement in and more importantly without sighting of the case file nor spoken to the party bringing the case or any members of their legal team. Wow. That stirring the #nufc fan pot I doubt the issue of standing is as cut and dried as some are suggesting. People are making the assumption that they can’t have standing because they’re just two fans, however, one or both of them are also likely to be customers of the club. There could be an advantage in and reason for a case being brought by fans, according to the government guidance the CAT fast-track process is generally only open to individuals and small business. If the case were being brought by the club or consortium it might be less likely to be handled under the fast-track process. CAT cases can be brought by customers, the guidance gives an example of a purchaser of a product who has had to pay more for it because the manufacturer or retailer has infringed competition law. Just speculating but there are possibly ways that standing could be demonstrated in relation to any season ticket holder. We’re in a situation where the PL would rather keep an owner who has withheld refunds from season ticket holders in place than allow owners to take control who could potentially threaten the established big 6. Even if the loss demonstrated is pennies, a big compensation pay-out clearly isn’t the goal here, it’s a judgement that the PL have breached competition law in their actions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 The manager has stamped his identity on the team. Unfortunately it's clueless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 The manager has stamped his identity on the team. Unfortunately it's clueless We are above Man United Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 The manager has stamped his identity on the team. Unfortunately it's clueless We are above Man United Another team with a shit manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Couldn’t sum it up any better than this, I’m quite sure O’Donoghue and De Marco are aware of the basics. Steve @oldheatonian reporters and lawyers dipping in with opinion questioning a legal case they have no direct involvement in and more importantly without sighting of the case file nor spoken to the party bringing the case or any members of their legal team. Wow. That stirring the #nufc fan pot I doubt the issue of standing is as cut and dried as some are suggesting. People are making the assumption that they can’t have standing because they’re just two fans, however, one or both of them are also likely to be customers of the club. There could be an advantage in and reason for a case being brought by fans, according to the government guidance the CAT fast-track process is generally only open to individuals and small business. If the case were being brought by the club or consortium it might be less likely to be handled under the fast-track process. CAT cases can be brought by customers, the guidance gives an example of a purchaser of a product who has had to pay more for it because the manufacturer or retailer has infringed competition law. Just speculating but there are possibly ways that standing could be demonstrated in relation to any season ticket holder. We’re in a situation where the PL would rather keep an owner who has withheld refunds from season ticket holders in place than allow owners to take control who could potentially threaten the established big 6. Even if the loss demonstrated is pennies, a big compensation pay-out clearly isn’t the goal here, it’s a judgement that the PL have breached competition law in their actions. I'm sure the QC the NCSL have employed would know and will have told them at a very early stage whether they had standing or not. Fuck what Luke Edward's has "been told". That dickhead has found a negative in everything about the takeover from the start just because he has no sources around the deal. Plus he loves Steve Bruce and we'll not even mention what he "was told" about Henry Mauriss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 The manager has stamped his identity on the team. Unfortunately it's clueless We are above Man United Good point. They’re 14th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Beginnings Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 The PL seem very bullish still This'll stall and stall! Considering your track record in the American Election thread, I am now 100% confident the Premier League is toast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenties Unlaced Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Couldn’t sum it up any better than this, I’m quite sure O’Donoghue and De Marco are aware of the basics. Steve @oldheatonian reporters and lawyers dipping in with opinion questioning a legal case they have no direct involvement in and more importantly without sighting of the case file nor spoken to the party bringing the case or any members of their legal team. Wow. That stirring the #nufc fan pot I doubt the issue of standing is as cut and dried as some are suggesting. People are making the assumption that they can’t have standing because they’re just two fans, however, one or both of them are also likely to be customers of the club. There could be an advantage in and reason for a case being brought by fans, according to the government guidance the CAT fast-track process is generally only open to individuals and small business. If the case were being brought by the club or consortium it might be less likely to be handled under the fast-track process. CAT cases can be brought by customers, the guidance gives an example of a purchaser of a product who has had to pay more for it because the manufacturer or retailer has infringed competition law. Just speculating but there are possibly ways that standing could be demonstrated in relation to any season ticket holder. We’re in a situation where the PL would rather keep an owner who has withheld refunds from season ticket holders in place than allow owners to take control who could potentially threaten the established big 6. Even if the loss demonstrated is pennies, a big compensation pay-out clearly isn’t the goal here, it’s a judgement that the PL have breached competition law in their actions. Brilliantly described. This is exactly what I believe is happening. There is a coordinated effort to establish that competition law has been breached. They know that they need to use an alternative approach to establish this quickly, which is why these two fans have been used. Once established they can move forward with the large piece of litigation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 CMA have just fined Compare the Market £18m for colluding with insurers to prevent lower insurance prices being advertised on other platforms. It’s not specifically relevant to us but is shows the extent of power that can be wielded, it’s not about compensating the fans, the rulings and fines can be pretty major if unfair practice is identified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 So Ashley has been a horrible wanker just to get the deal over the line...................genius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Couldn’t sum it up any better than this, I’m quite sure O’Donoghue and De Marco are aware of the basics. Steve @oldheatonian reporters and lawyers dipping in with opinion questioning a legal case they have no direct involvement in and more importantly without sighting of the case file nor spoken to the party bringing the case or any members of their legal team. Wow. That stirring the #nufc fan pot I doubt the issue of standing is as cut and dried as some are suggesting. People are making the assumption that they can’t have standing because they’re just two fans, however, one or both of them are also likely to be customers of the club. There could be an advantage in and reason for a case being brought by fans, according to the government guidance the CAT fast-track process is generally only open to individuals and small business. If the case were being brought by the club or consortium it might be less likely to be handled under the fast-track process. CAT cases can be brought by customers, the guidance gives an example of a purchaser of a product who has had to pay more for it because the manufacturer or retailer has infringed competition law. Just speculating but there are possibly ways that standing could be demonstrated in relation to any season ticket holder. We’re in a situation where the PL would rather keep an owner who has withheld refunds from season ticket holders in place than allow owners to take control who could potentially threaten the established big 6. Even if the loss demonstrated is pennies, a big compensation pay-out clearly isn’t the goal here, it’s a judgement that the PL have breached competition law in their actions. Brilliantly described. This is exactly what I believe is happening. There is a coordinated effort to establish that competition law has been breached. They know that they need to use an alternative approach to establish this quickly, which is why these two fans have been used. Once established they can move forward with the large piece of litigation. Didn't Mimms say ages ago that the legal team(s) were looking at different routes to exploit. This must have been what that meant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 None of it makes sense to me unsurprisingly and it’s frustrating as hell but I keep thinking this De Marco guy is meant to be some kind of football law genius and that gives me hope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 None of it makes sense to me unsurprisingly and it’s frustrating as hell but I keep thinking this De Marco guy is meant to be some kind of football law genius and that gives me hope Football Law genuis who wins most things v Football Club who lose most things One of them is going to have to end their run Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Club statement Newcastle United has issued the following club statement on Thursday 19 November 2020: “The Club has previously not commented on the arbitration it is pursuing against the Premier League (‘EPL’) with respect to its conduct relating to the proposed takeover because of the confidentiality clause in the EPL's rules. "However, the Club is aware of public reports which state that, on 17 November, the EPL referred to legal proceedings with the Club (e.g. social media posts referring to the “Club’s own legal case”) in a letter to Newcastle supporters. "The source of some of the reporting is said to be the EPL. It appears, therefore, that the EPL has leaked the contents of their letter to some of those commenting in the public domain. "The Club understands that these will be matters of great concern to its fans and therefore considers that, in light of the information disclosed by the EPL, it has no choice but to respond and update its fans in response to this coverage. "The Club makes no comment on the substance of the arbitration, but it can confirm that it has issued arbitration proceedings against the EPL. "It is unclear when those proceedings will be resolved, given the approach of the EPL and its lawyers, Bird & Bird. Nevertheless, the Club will continue to use its best efforts to press for a fair, full and timely hearing of its claim.” https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/club-statement-19112020/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddles mullet Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Get in Mike lad, they took the bait!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 It almost feels like it was all about proving the EPL do in fact leak information, ready for a court case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I assume that this might be referring to that Ben Jacobs is it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Not gonna lie I just about shat masel when it said club statement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Please let their firm be called Bird Law Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 looks like a lengthy court case coming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I’m still none the wiser what anything means at the minute like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I’m still none the wiser what anything means at the minute like. Same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Is there any chance they've done this to expose leaks in the PL? And the fact their 'response' was leaked (again) to the same journalist in the same route as last time has proven a point? Was I right?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I’m still none the wiser what anything means at the minute like. Same. Same here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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