PlymouthGeordie Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, DurhamMag said: Yes your right, I read the page wrong!! Oh bloody hell sorry guys. I thought the part underneath the tweet was how had liked it.. Yeah they've been tagged in the post rather than actually liking it. No harm done (although you did get my hopes up temporarily). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejeck Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, DurhamMag said: Yes your right, I read the page wrong!! Oh bloody hell sorry guys. I thought the part underneath the tweet was how had liked it.. Yeah but what is promising is that Danny the Bus has liked it, so maybe he's sorting us out with a new coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurhamMag Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 minute ago, PlymouthGeordie said: Yeah they've been tagged in the post rather than actually liking it. No harm done (although you did get my hopes up temporarily). Got my own hopes up too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 On 01/05/2021 at 11:08, Flartyblartclart said: "It's a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma...." Is that a Dr Who quote? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurhamMag Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Candi_Hills said: Either way, it’s probably true that we need to stop up and that scares the dry biscuits out of me. I'm with you there Candi as I keep running through the fixtures and realistically i can only see us getting another 3 points up till the Fulham game. 12 Points to play for and 9 points clear If we lose our next 2 which i think is highly likely Fulham Vs Burnley Well i think Fulham could get 3 pts here Southampton Vs Fulham I would say they will get at least a point or 3 so lets say worse case scenario they win 3 pts Gap is down to 3 points Then Man Utd vs Fulham Who knows with this as man u will be concentrating on Europe and League will be won by then BRINGS US TO SHEFF UTD and FULHAM games I am nervous very nervous... I don't want anything riding on our game at Craven Cottage! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Relegation is 99% unlikely to happen at this stage. I don’t think that’s an issue. If Fulham lose their next game and we get a point I don’t think they can catch us. I think we pick up another 6 points too The issue as has always been is clearing the way with the PL, events over the last 2 weeks will have moved the goalposts slightly. Whether that puts us in a stronger or weaker position I do not know but can imagine NDM will be reacting to this and forming it as part of a strategy. Overall I’d imagine the PL will just want this to go away quietly so they’ll have to reach an agreement. Here is a question though, the arbitration is focussed on how the PL applied its rules in respect of the wording of director or person of influence. So my understanding was that if we get a ruling in our favour, the test would go to the PL to complete, essentially adding more time to the process. Am I wrong on this though? Is the arbitration to decide the outcome of the full o&d’s test? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, DurhamMag said: Yes your right, I read the page wrong!! Oh bloody hell sorry guys. I thought the part underneath the tweet was how had liked it.. Lock the thread again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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deejeck Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 I think West Ham did us a big favour last night. I was worried that Burnley would go into the game against Fulham with nothing to play for, but they'll need to give it a good go now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurhamMag Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Just now, deejeck said: I think West Ham did us a big favour last night. I was worried that Burnley would go into the game against Fulham with nothing to play for, but they'll need to give it a good go now. Agreed.... I was glad to see Burnley get beat... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Relegation is 99% unlikely to happen at this stage. I don’t think that’s an issue. If Fulham lose their next game and we get a point I don’t think they can catch us. I think we pick up another 6 points too The issue as has always been is clearing the way with the PL, events over the last 2 weeks will have moved the goalposts slightly. Whether that puts us in a stronger or weaker position I do not know but can imagine NDM will be reacting to this and forming it as part of a strategy. Overall I’d imagine the PL will just want this to go away quietly so they’ll have to reach an agreement. Here is a question though, the arbitration is focussed on how the PL applied its rules in respect of the wording of director or person of influence. So my understanding was that if we get a ruling in our favour, the test would go to the PL to complete, essentially adding more time to the process. Am I wrong on this though? Is the arbitration to decide the outcome of the full o&d’s test? You’re right, I think. Although I assume the O&D test would be a formality in the event that we won arbitration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, Stifler said: Is that a Dr Who quote? Winston Churchill, talking about Russia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: You’re right, I think. Although I assume the O&D test would be a formality in the event that we won arbitration. Bear in mind that even if we win the arbitration proceedings, that doesn't mean the O&D test will be passed. The arbitrators may rule that we win on a procedural point, for example the PL didn't following process X, and thus the test should be conducted again. The test can be conducted again and still be rejected... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Rosenrot said: Bear in mind that even if we win the arbitration proceedings, that doesn't mean the O&D test will be passed. The arbitrators may rule that we win on a procedural point, for example the PL didn't following process X, and thus the test should be conducted again. The test can be conducted again and still be rejected... My understanding is that this is the only point that muddies the waters as it were. They may well be openly discussing PL corruption right now but we’ll never know because it’s behind closed doors. There is nothing in the PL rules that state that other clubs have the power to block others from becoming competitive through wealthier owners so recent events will have to shine a light on that, I hope they have hard evidence of this. And I suppose they do, The Sheffield United chap who did an interview pretty much blew that whole situation open. Email correspondence would be better though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Rosenrot said: Bear in mind that even if we win the arbitration proceedings, that doesn't mean the O&D test will be passed. The arbitrators may rule that we win on a procedural point, for example the PL didn't following process X, and thus the test should be conducted again. The test can be conducted again and still be rejected... That seems vanishingly unlikely since that we know the arbitration is determining whether or not the KSA meets the definition of taking control of the club and therefore should be included as a director. I'm pretty sure that the PL acknowledged in one of their statements that all of the proposed directors pass the test, it's only a matter of whether the KSA should be included as a director and undergo the test. Edited May 4, 2021 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Bird and Bird will be getting plenty of business out the PL, I wonder if Beloff is representing the PL in this case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Man U fans are becoming more vocal about the Saudis taking them over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ben said: Man U fans are becoming more vocal about the Saudis taking them over Of course they are. That was what the protests have been about all along, they don't give a shit about the ESL ditching English football, they will happily climb on board once they've got deeper pockets via middle eastern owners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ben said: Man U fans are becoming more vocal about the Saudis taking them over It wouldn’t make sense for PIF or KSA in another route to do a deal like that. There’s very little value in it at this point. The reason PIF are on board with this is to take a 280m investment (80%) and turn it into something worth a billion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Not sure even the Saudis could afford £4bn in the present economic climate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 A major part of it is sportswashing though right? Which isn’t related to the purchase price or the future value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Just now, Joe_F said: Not sure even the Saudis could afford £4bn in the present economic climate. 4 billion and the guts of another billion on playing staff. They’d probably want another 500 million to upgrade Old Trafford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: It wouldn’t make sense for PIF or KSA in another route to do a deal like that. There’s very little value in it at this point. The reason PIF are on board with this is to take a 280m investment (80%) and turn it into something worth a billion. I think money aside, the Saudis would not want to look like opportunists chasing after Man U after pursuing NUFC for so long. They would put a lot of stock in the value of their word I imagine so would want to be seen as truly committed to the city and it's community. It wouldn't be a good look if they dropped everything once Man U came knocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Man Utd aren’t for sale though, are they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snabelkabel Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, TRon said: I think money aside, the Saudis would not want to look like opportunists chasing after Man U after pursuing NUFC for so long. They would put a lot of stock in the value of their word I imagine so would want to be seen as truly committed to the city and it's community. It wouldn't be a good look if they dropped everything once Man U came knocking. I wouldn’t bet on it. The media would just tell everyone how lovely owners man u have and that they got their number one target. Nufc bid would have been forgotten by everyone in less than a week (except us of course) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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