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[Wolfcastle]

https://richardajkeys.com/index.php/blog/299-privileged-private-confidential

 

So just  like every other club that's had a takeover then and just like the one we had before except a lot better for us.

 

Agree with Poot above. Its more about - if you care that much about it that you think we should do something about it, you really ought to be doing something about it yourself is really what it is. I accept I don't care enough to research who invests in the products I may or may not use but that's not the same as saying I dont care about human rights and practices in whatever country it is and that applies equally across the board of their investment. Like saying you condoned Russian activities if you watched the World Cup, I bet that applied to nobody and I didn't apply it to anybody.

 

There absolutely needs to be context for me. You cant just take every statement as an absolute "you're tall" and ending there instead of "yes to some but not to others" which is more accurate.

 

 

Edited October 11, 2021 by Wolfcastle

[Magpie]

 

[ToonTastic]

3 hours ago, Lazarus said:

 

I bet members of the 'big-ish 6' will be pitching the Norwegian fund soon  - its the only wallet thats bigger isnt it?

This suggests not 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/276617/sovereign-wealth-funds-worldwide-based-on-assets-under-management/

[Skeletor]

5 minutes ago, Magpie said:

 

 

Well this is awkward when Simon Jordan is the one talking sense.

[wormy]

FFS Piers Morgan and Simon Jordan defending the deal.

 

Firmly entrenched in arewethebaddies.gif territory now.

 

[Fantail Breeze]

7 minutes ago, ToonTastic said:

This suggests not 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/276617/sovereign-wealth-funds-worldwide-based-on-assets-under-management/

 

Fucking hell, we’re skint.

[Wandy]

23 minutes ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

If you thought this week couldn’t get any better, check out this glorious monument of seethe 

 

https://richardajkeys.com/index.php/blog/299-privileged-private-confidential
 

Because we belied

 

Dear me, what a bitter cunt he is. And "the most embarrassing corporate bid in football takeover history"...?  What on earth is he babbling on about?

[Kid Icarus]

18 minutes ago, POOT 2.0 said:

 

I want to counter this, but not seem like I'm being personal to you, Wullie. I'm not. 

I disagree with this, as most people aren't using it as a reason that they "don't care". They're using it as a reason why they don't feel they deserve the weight of the problem shoved solely onto their shoulders. Which is what a lot of criticism is wrongfully (and unfairly) doing. Thankfully, a lot of good journalists are pointing out it's not the responsibility of the fans, but should be a concern for the fans.

And I think it's fair to use it as a defence. Those who claim other investments don't count because a club is different, are missing the whole point, IMHO. It's not about the semantics of what type of investment the Saudis have (80% shares, 10% shares, public shares or private shares), it's about the bottom-line of their insane lack of human rights. Surely that's the underlying grievance? And if you take a vocal stance on the issue (which we all should)...then it's all encompassing. You simply can't separate them out, for any reason. Not sure why people are arguing to do so. I'm not sure what the end-game of that argument would be. 

 

The underlying point has to be the grievance that Saudi Arabia has appalling human rights record. Not that we don't like Saudi Arabia have a controlling interest in our club because of their appalling human rights record. That feels disingenuous to the big issue, and feels very self-centred. 

 

 

 

I think you're both right like. It's a double edged sword - precisely because it's your football club means it should mean more to you than it does with Uber, Starkbucks, and Disney, but because it's your club means walking away isn't anywhere near being an option in the same way that it is not using Uber, Starbucks, or Disney+.

 

I think it's fair to say that anyone looking on from the outside and not being able to understand why Newcastle fans aren't kicking up a fuss while they're using those companies and have a much easier consumer decision to make don't really have a leg to stand on.

 

Obviously that's not to say that them being hypocritical means that they're wrong. 

 

 

Edited October 11, 2021 by kisearch

[SUPERTOON]

Was hoping we would get a press conference or at least a length interview with the new owners this week as well but I suppose they have too much to try and sort out.

[Joe_F]

33 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

Any uncomfortable songs are likely to be very pro KSA belted out by tea towelled adorned idiots with half and half NUFC/ KSA scarves.

 

I’m worried we’ll give the media a frw large bones to chew on. 
 

The atmosphere will be electric, just hope it’s not over the top.

 

And I really hope there's no booing of taking the knee.

 

Showing our support for 'equality for all' would be good like.

[Jackie Broon]

6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Was hoping we would get a press conference or at least a length interview with the new owners this week as well but I suppose they have too much to try and sort out.

 

I think we've had that already, Staveley spent most of her first day doing interviews, I don't think there'll be a press conference for the owners it would just dissolve into questions about Saudi human rights abuses at the moment.

[TRon]

1 hour ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said:

Yasir al-Rumayyan’s hoping to fly over and attend Sunday’s game according to Downie.

 

I'm sure he'll get a warm welcome, hope we put on a decent performance and he enjoys the game. 

[prefabtoon]

Simon Jordan sends message to PL clubs displeased at Newcastle takeover.

MIND YOUR OWN BLOODY BUISNESS.

 

https://www.football365.com/news/simon-jordan-message-premier-league-owners-unhappy-newcastle-takeover

 

[pinkeye]

He has changed his tone about us lately...

 

I recon he wants a job...  

[wormy]

Just now, pinkeye said:

He has changed his tone about us lately...

 

I recon he wants a job...  

 

Unfortunately our circumstances mean we're ripe to have the contrarian WUMs seemingly 'on our side'. More commercial value for these arseholes in enraging the whole of football by defending the takeover than offending NUFC fans now.

[Lenny]

He's just a troll that's moved onto the next topic that will wind people up now that there's nothing left on the bone regarding "will there /won't there be a takeover". 

[prefabtoon]

Jordan this deal is deader than a dead thing in deadland the day before takeover,

He has his finger on the pulse of football matters. LMAO.

 

 

Edited October 11, 2021 by prefabtoon

[Darth Crooks]

3 hours ago, 54 said:

 

Quite a good well-rounded video.

He's spot on like.

[maze]

6 hours ago, NE27 said:

 

Honestly, I've definitely had thoughts about this before and welled up at how amazing an experience it would be. /sadsack

 

In reality it'd probably be canny shit 

You're probably right. But in my mind it's mint

[Teasy]

1 hour ago, Joe_F said:

 

And I really hope there's no booing of taking the knee.

 

Showing our support for 'equality for all' would be good like.

 

Nope, support "kick it out", not the BLM kneeling nonsense IMO.

[Sima]

Oh ffs.

[Billy Pilgrim]

7 minutes ago, Teasy said:

 

Nope, support "kick it out", not the BLM kneeling nonsense IMO.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Man

[Jackie Broon]

10 minutes ago, Teasy said:

 

Nope, support "kick it out", not the BLM kneeling nonsense IMO.

 

Can't we just support both?

[Teasy]

No I'd rather just support the genuine cause of kick it out. This isn't the thread for a discussion on it so I won't continue it here.  Felt I had to comment once to the poster that brought it up.