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20 minutes ago, Sima said:

"Proper football"

 

Is that when they were the richest club in the country thanks to the Moores?

Don't you know old money is not evil, only new money

 

Reading them talk about the EFL being proper football and not ruined by money, they have absolute zero awareness of the role their club (along with Man-U, Arsenal, Spurs and Everton) played in breaking away from the football league because of greed

 

I have no desire to sign up to RAWK but someone needs to educate them on their history 

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2 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

Don't you know old money is not evil, only new money

 

Reading them talk about the EFL being proper football and not ruined by money, they have absolute zero awareness of the role their club (along with Man-U, Arsenal, Spurs and Everton) played in breaking away from the football league because of greed

 

I have no desire to sign up to RAWK but someone needs to educate them on their history 

They would deny it and claim history has been rewritten! [emoji38] Totally delusional.

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Aye, apparently the EFL operate better as well.

That must be why 2 clubs just a few miles down the M62 from them effectively got kicked out in recent years, where as bigger clubs like Bolton were allowed to be saved.

 

It’s also why they approved the sale of Wigan to an owner they knew was buying them to put them into administration straight away so some people in Asia could win some bets.

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Other than it is Liverpool fans, I don’t know why they are getting so hysterical about the outcome yesterday.  It is only a temporary reprieve anyway until the Premier League put together a more coherent plan.  The vote was rushed to address the January window only.

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2 minutes ago, Wallace said:

Other than it is Liverpool fans, I don’t know why they are getting so hysterical about the outcome yesterday.  It is only a temporary reprieve anyway until the Premier League put together a more coherent plan.  The vote was rushed to address the January window only.

 

RAWK is gonna RAWK.

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5 minutes ago, Wallace said:

Other than it is Liverpool fans, I don’t know why they are getting so hysterical about the outcome yesterday.  It is only a temporary reprieve anyway until the Premier League put together a more coherent plan.  The vote was rushed to address the January window only.

The more coherent plan would also need to be voted through though so no guarantees given the number of PL clubs with interests in clubs abroad. The vote was rushed in response to Dan Ashworth’s fishing expedition and boy did he catch some whoppers.

 

 

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One of the best things about being half-decent again is the meltdowns you get to witness. Got to say, Liverpool & Arsenal are currently by faaaar the worst of the lot when it comes to online fanbases. Jumped up, hysterical freaks.

 

The continual lack of self-awareness is staggering as well. They couldn't give 2 shites when they were owned by billionaires far richer than 95% of other club ownerships. Now even wealthier folk have come along, it's all about sporting integrity under the guise that it was all 'organic' [emoji38] Fuck off.

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Wallace said:

Other than it is Liverpool fans, I don’t know why they are getting so hysterical about the outcome yesterday.  It is only a temporary reprieve anyway until the Premier League put together a more coherent plan.  The vote was rushed to address the January window only.

This makes it funny. It's all reactionary, they've not bothered to even scratch the service.

 

Say we did use it to get in 4-5 top players that transform our team. It will just go back up for voting next time and be passed.

 

It's going back up to vote anyway and with 2 of the sides that voted for it likely to be relegated.

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Looking at that RAWK page it's mad how they separate themselves from the overall capitalist hellscape of modern football inclusive of Liverpool.

 

They talk about all of this as if Liverpool, Arsenal, and Man United are on the outside looking in, standard bearers of honesty and integrity, doing it the right way, and not just overtaken, poorer or greedier versions of the same cunts that own us, Man City and Chelsea. Now that the tribalism of losing on the pitch has kicked in, now the system they and their current and previous owners pushed and profited from has gone too far. What a remarkable coincidence.  

 

It's not even capital realism where the clubs fighting the system are products of the system themselves. They were and are the owners, creators and perpetuators of the system that led us here. To suggest that any other reality exists is laughable.

 

I'm absolutely on board with the idea of modern football being a sick joke. I don't like our owners, or football clubs being owned by states, sovereign investment funds, and so on, but I also don’t like football clubs being owned by private investment funds any less. They function in exactly the same way, with exactly the same purpose -  maximum profit at all costs. And with that purpose is where you get the degradation of the game.

 

I’m sure a lot of them understand all that, but I’m guessing as a way to draw a distinction between their own club and ours, they’re talking like they’re owned by a fan co-op, and not, you know, a foreign sports investment fund that a couple of years ago tried to form its own slush funded super league.

 

It’s easily done like, I was put under a spell by the myth of the ‘what is a club in any case?’ idea, and it’s easy to combine that idea of our fans (which I was also wrong about) with the club itself. Liverpool fans have that concept on speed with the success and genuinely socialist principles of Shankley to hoodwink them into believing their club upholds those principles or ever truly did, but in 2023 they’re living in folklore if they think those principles apply anywhere in football anymore, let alone Liverpool, Man United, or Arsenal.

 

The sooner fanbases lose the tribalism and the 'I'm alright Jack' attitude and realise the entire game is heading right down the toilet in front of our eyes, the better. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

The sooner fanbases lose the tribalism and the 'I'm alright Jack' attitude and realise the entire game is heading right down the toilet in front of our eyes, the better. 

 

Spot on.

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How was even this latest rule change allowed to be voted on? Like, we're a month and a bit away from the transfer window opening, and this rule was very clearly voted on to stop us with it just being a temporary ban, so what can and can't the PL clubs vote to stop/enforce? 

I wouldn't necessarily even be against this loan rule becoming a thing, but this would have set a pretty dangerous precedent if by just a vote, one club could be stopped from executing their plans in the middle of the season. 

Surely you set the rules for the season and if they needs changing you enforce that for next season. 

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2 minutes ago, Nobody said:

How was even this latest rule change allowed to be voted on? Like, we're a month and a bit away from the transfer window opening, and this rule was very clearly voted on to stop us with it just being a temporary ban, so what can and can't the PL clubs vote to stop/enforce? 

I wouldn't necessarily even be against this loan rule becoming a thing, but this would have set a pretty dangerous precedent if by just a vote, one club could be stopped from executing their plans in the middle of the season. 

Surely you set the rules for the season and if they needs changing you enforce that for next season. 

This rule would have been immediate, even if temporary. The FMV rule was similarly mid season and immediate. The Chelsea 8yr contracts to get round FFP. ........err let's stop but wait until  the Summer.

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3 minutes ago, Nobody said:

Whats that about? 

Said the fans didn’t make enough noise on Saturday. The True Faith (Mick Martin) lot have been kicking off about it. Imo he should have just kept quiet, it doesn’t help coming straight after the Trippier-fan altercation. It’s alright to suggest we didn’t make enough noise and it’s ok to not make enough noise. Like Mehrdad says things don’t always align. Fans can’t be on every game, with so many games especially. Division is what media and other clubs want. Just acknowledge it and move on, shouts your lungs out tonight and v Man U on Saturday!

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3 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Aye, NDAs flying all owa the shop. Mehrdad was offering out the 2 year old in question as his Blaydon Races rendition was sung in the theme of Baby Shark. Teeth girl had to come

over and calm the whole thing down

Teeth girl 😆 that’s a blast from the past 

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4 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

Said the fans didn’t make enough noise on Saturday. The True Faith (Mick Martin) lot have been kicking off about it. Imo he should have just kept quiet, it doesn’t help coming straight after the Trippier-fan altercation. It’s alright to suggest we didn’t make enough noise and it’s ok to not make enough noise. Like Mehrdad says things don’t always align. Fans can’t be on every game, with so many games especially. Division is what media and other clubs want. Just acknowledge it and move on, shouts your lungs out tonight and v Man U on Saturday!

Fucking hell the true faith lot have some nerve kicking off about it.

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