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The "delighted Ashley has gone, but uncomfortable with Saudi ownership" thread


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Just now, Hovagod said:

It’s ‘DNA’  shite. Their proud history of, what? Being bankrolled? That’s basically what they’re asking for. 

 

 

 

And then frantically trying to pull the ladder up.

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Just now, Ben said:

Aye fair point, but it's not like they have covered every spare wall like Ashley did.

 

Don't think they will either tbh. Despise the third kit personally and what it's obvious intentions are but don't think they'll go beyond that. Abu Dhabi/UAE haven't with Man City other than through sponsorships. Think it'll be the same for us in that regard.

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I'm not sure what Sportswashing is then, I thought it was Qatar buying the world cup and PSG with huge self promotion. The Saudis that own us seem very meek and do a lot under the radar.

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6 minutes ago, Ben said:

I'm not sure what Sportswashing is then, I thought it was Qatar buying the world cup and PSG with huge self promotion. The Saudis that own us seem very meek and do a lot under the radar.

 

It's when you get fans of said clubs defending those regimes which unfortunately has happened with us but in a minority.

 

That's not to say some sanctimonious twats haven't tried to appear holier than thou and claim that fans should walk away from their clubs (or just gone after the fans and everyday people working for the club) and they would if it was their club. Nonsense, it's much more complicated than that. 

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4 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

It's when you get fans of said clubs defending those regimes which unfortunately has happened with us but in a minority.

 

That's not to say some sanctimonious twats haven't tried to appear holier than thou and claim that fans should walk away from their clubs (or just gone after the fans and everyday people working for the club) and they would if it was their club. Nonsense, it's much more complicated than that. 

There’s obviously a vast mid-ground between defending the KSA’s regime (‘apologist’) and walking away (or ‘sanctimonious twat) positions. 

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2 hours ago, Jack27 said:

 

‘Take, for example, the popular Sunderland online message board that set up a forum on 24 June titled: NUFC/Sportswashing – Summer 2022. Since its creation, it has been filled with around 10,000 posts – in less than two months. That’s around 156 posts per day.’
 

Now there’s proper journalism for you - cite the number of comments on RTG … no further comment needed 

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1 hour ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

There’s obviously a vast mid-ground between defending the KSA’s regime (‘apologist’) and walking away (or ‘sanctimonious twat) positions. 

 

I was referring to journalists mainly for the sanctimonious twats rather than fans.

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1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

‘Take, for example, the popular Sunderland online message board that set up a forum on 24 June titled: NUFC/Sportswashing – Summer 2022. Since its creation, it has been filled with around 10,000 posts – in less than two months. That’s around 156 posts per day.’
 

Now there’s proper journalism for you - cite the number of comments on RTG … no further comment needed 

I'd argue it's the same 6 posts 26 times a day tbh :lol:

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1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

‘Take, for example, the popular Sunderland online message board that set up a forum on 24 June titled: NUFC/Sportswashing – Summer 2022. Since its creation, it has been filled with around 10,000 posts – in less than two months. That’s around 156 posts per day.’
 

Now there’s proper journalism for you - cite the number of comments on RTG … no further comment needed 

Half the comments are akin to someone rolling their face across their keyboard then clicking submit.

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3 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

It's when you get fans of said clubs defending those regimes which unfortunately has happened with us but in a minority.

 

Not denying that’s happened mate or that it’s really annoying and embarrassing, but I think when journalists and the like talk about countries trying to “sportswash their brutal regimes” and the like it I imagine it goes further than creating a very small minority of apologists. 
 

I feel they are always going to be restricted in how far they can change widely held opinions, but these events can definitely generate tourism, further business links etc. The positive impacts are economic mainly and therefore I don’t see ‘sportswashing’ as necessarily a bad thing. 

 

 

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Despite my reservations, which I won't go over, the signing of Isak suggests to me that we are a legitimate investment for PIF.

I jokingly said that Yasir saw us lose against Cambridge and stumped up £25 million for Wood, and after watching us go toe to toe with one of the best teams in the World, stumped up the 60 for Isak.

Maybe it's a brilliant PR exercise but it suggests their level of investment is linked to their perceived value of their overall investment.

Basically they didn't go out and buy M'Bappe just for the exposure.

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2 minutes ago, Kanji said:

Kit looked good to be me. 

 

Looked absolutely mint, like. One of the best we've had in ages. Rotten connotations and stinkingly cynical from Castore, of course. But looks great. 

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