BottledDog Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I'm afraid I'll have a frown, if Unai turns us down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Still not 100% certain . . . https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10157335/Newcastle-Unai-Emery-not-Magpies-new-boss-says-Villarreal-president-Fernando-Roig.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, BottledDog said: I'm afraid I'll have a frown, if Unai turns us down. Don't worry my friend, they will get us phil brown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Seriously if we end up with howe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Interesting interview where Emery talks about why Arsenal's Board selected him and some of the issues he faced along the way. His time in the Premier League will be very helpful as well as his experience at PSG at managing big named players that we will inevitably sign Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopSnagger Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, toontownman said: An arsenal supporting mate mentioned by the end most players looked like they didnt know what they were supposed to be doing? Which goes against what I read about his tactical prowess and discipline. Do you think players had just given up on him at that point? There were rotten eggs around him that you mentioned? I wonder whether super high intensity all the time wears players down over time to the point they are mentally broken? Hence being a good short term manager but long term struggling? If he gets the players/characters he needs (with a good DOF appointment) that should be less of a problem. If things go to plan I don't see much more than a handful or so of the current squad being here in a year or so. I'm going by that that the guy supports Arteta? Like I know it's a random conclusion to draw, but that's what Arteta fans like to say about how the club was gone and then Tets rescued us from the abyss. Nah, but seriously we were 8th when he was sacked and finished 8th and then 8th again. Towards the end, we had some shocking games like I said previously, that Watford game was the absolute nadir. That said, there are mitigating factors Emery wanted a midfielder, we didn't give him who he wanted. He wanted Zaha, we gave him Pepe. We never replaced Ramsey. And well, after that Europa League final, there were murmurs of Good Ebening jokes around the squad and a complete lack of respect. But you have to give it to Emery for introducing Emile who is doing well, introducing Saka who is doing well, introducing Willock who's now at yours, Douzi did well under him. So some positives but the seniors in Ozil and co had completely stopped responding to Emery. That said, yes, we were fucking woeful near the end, but that's pretty much the exception for him to be that bad at us and at PSG. He has been very good at other clubs by all accounts, and his first season, we were a point off top 4, and had we just got that point, it'd be a completely different story. He was very good in the first season, which is why I'm inclined to believe the second was a blip Sadly some of our fans are now so patient with Arteta after Emery, even though he's been far worse. I think the players really did stop trying near the end, bar the younger members of the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, manorpark said: Still not 100% certain . . . https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10157335/Newcastle-Unai-Emery-not-Magpies-new-boss-says-Villarreal-president-Fernando-Roig.html It’s a rehash of the quotes earlier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, manorpark said: Still not 100% certain . . . https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10157335/Newcastle-Unai-Emery-not-Magpies-new-boss-says-Villarreal-president-Fernando-Roig.html He has to say that though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Cracking appointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, sempuki said: Cracking appointment. Glad someone can get through to the doctors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, TopSnagger said: I'm going by that that the guy supports Arteta? Like I know it's a random conclusion to draw, but that's what Arteta fans like to say about how the club was gone and then Tets rescued us from the abyss. Nah, but seriously we were 8th when he was sacked and finished 8th and then 8th again. Towards the end, we had some shocking games like I said previously, that Watford game was the absolute nadir. That said, there are mitigating factors Emery wanted a midfielder, we didn't give him who he wanted. He wanted Zaha, we gave him Pepe. We never replaced Ramsey. And well, after that Europa League final, there were murmurs of Good Ebening jokes around the squad and a complete lack of respect. But you have to give it to Emery for introducing Emile who is doing well, introducing Saka who is doing well, introducing Willock who's now at yours, Douzi did well under him. So some positives but the seniors in Ozil and co had completely stopped responding to Emery. That said, yes, we were fucking woeful near the end, but that's pretty much the exception for him to be that bad at us and at PSG. He has been very good at other clubs by all accounts, and his first season, we were a point off top 4, and had we just got that point, it'd be a completely different story. He was very good in the first season, which is why I'm inclined to believe the second was a blip Sadly some of our fans are now so patient with Arteta after Emery, even though he's been far worse. I think the players really did stop trying near the end, bar the younger members of the squad. Cheers. Cracking insight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, gdm said: Seriously if we end up with howe So negative I suppose it’s 14 years of Ashley that does that to us all. He wouldn’t entertain contract negotiations if he wasn’t interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, toontownman said: Don't worry my friend, they will get us phil brown. Yay! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Unai seems like a nice chap: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I really don't get the weird hatred for Howe from some in here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, 54 said: I really don't get the weird hatred for Howe from some in here Its not just on here, but I don't get it either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Wait, aren't we going to monitor the situation for months, or at least until the transfer window closes? What's going on here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 The Howe hate isn't reserved solely for some weirdos on here. My Arsenal mate would go apoplectic any time he was even slightly linked to their job and that was when he was still doing well with Bournemouth. Seems to draw such a weird little hate crowd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, 54 said: I really don't get the weird hatred for Howe from some in here Is it hatred or just not thinking he’s all that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I'm not sure there's hatred for Howe as such, though personally I think we could do better with the new funds and potential status of the club. I don't really see him as someone to start a rebuilding process of the club either, maybe not as experienced on worldwide scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 It's not hatred, just a feeling that he's overrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Fans seem to be the polar opposite to the media lot.. Fans.. English manager must be shite Media.. English manager can't do nothing wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopSnagger Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, wormy said: The Howe hate isn't reserved solely for some weirdos on here. My Arsenal mate would go apoplectic any time he was even slightly linked to their job and that was when he was still doing well with Bournemouth. Seems to draw such a weird little hate crowd. Howe did very well at the lower levels, but you have to question how well he did in the PL. I know Bournemouth are a small time club that got to the PL but he made genuinely awful signings and was mugged off for those genuinely awful signings too. Honestly, we also went apoplectic because signing Howe while Liverpool went out and got Klopp and Chelsea got out to get Conte was woefully small time. Also before anyone goes all OMG if he was Howiola, Potter doesn't get the same reaction from fans because his teams genuinely overperform and play excellent football. Howe played possession football which was sterile honestly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 He kept them in the Premier League for four to five years didn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, TopSnagger said: Howe did very well at the lower levels, but you have to question how well he did in the PL. I know Bournemouth are a small time club that got to the PL but he made genuinely awful signings and was mugged off for those genuinely awful signings too. Honestly, we also went apoplectic because signing Howe while Liverpool went out and got Klopp and Chelsea got out to get Conte was woefully small time. Also before anyone goes all OMG if he was Howiola, Potter doesn't get the same reaction from fans because his teams genuinely overperform and play excellent football. Howe played possession football which was sterile honestly. If I was an Arsenal fan and they replaced Wenger with Howe I'd be furious too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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