Eddie Howe

[Toon1994]

Why not the Fulham manager? really impressive

[Fantail Breeze]

Just now, The Prophet said:

 

Do you not think a lot of that is down to the state of the club they've inherited? 

 

In an ideal world, you start at the top, appoint a CEO and work your way down the pecking order and I'd imagine that's exactly what they would have done.

 

Unfortunately, they bought a club winless in eight and the manager and the interim manager haven't been capable of buying them any time, so they're immediately on the back foot. They need to start with a manager, which is far from ideal.

 

Well, they would have known that four weeks ago. They were clear Bruce was going to be peddled from the start.

 

If their intention was to start with a manager, why did it take so long to sack Bruce and/or recruit one?

 

We shouldn’t be sat here four weeks in without any sort of appointment made.

[nbthree3]

2 minutes ago, kisearch said:

Wasn't Howe as close to becoming Celtic manager as Emery was to being our manager? I'm not convinced he'll come like, I've seen Martinez's name too often and it feels like it'll end up being him purely because I can't stand him 

 

 

 

I think so https://theathletic.com/2620353/2021/05/29/why-eddie-howe-is-not-going-to-celtic-and-why-ange-postecoglou-might-be/

 

Eddie Howe, too, felt honoured to be approached by Celtic — first, tentatively, last November, when he declined on the basis that he was only three months into a career break after leaving Bournemouth following last season’s relegation from the Premier League, and then far more seriously in March after Lennon was sacked. From the first round of discussions with the club’s Irish owner Dermot Desmond, Celtic captured his imagination.

 

Howe isn’t a Celtic man. He didn’t play for the club, as Tony Mowbray and Lennon had, and he wasn’t raised in a Catholic community in Northern Ireland and immersed in the club’s history, like O’Neill, Rodgers and Lennon were. He took a more objective view of the club and he too quickly formed the view that it would be a wonderful job to take if the conditions were right.

 

But Howe was never persuaded that the conditions were right. For all the feverish speculation about an appointment being imminent from the start of April, there was never a “done deal”. There were always significant hurdles to overcome and, while Celtic were willing to give him time in the hope of reaching a positive outcome, the process slowly meandered towards the point where both sides needed clarity.

 

Howe urged Celtic to hire an experienced operator as director of football to help with an aggressive overhaul of a squad that finished 27 points adrift of champions Rangers this season. He lobbied strongly for Celtic to appoint Bournemouth technical director Richard Hughes, but the former Scotland midfielder rejected an approach to return to his native Glasgow several weeks ago.

 

That didn’t end Celtic’s discussions with Howe by any means, but it was the first significant setback on the road that ended with that statement last night.

Howe was also frustrated in his efforts to assemble a coaching team, although it is not yet clear why this proved so problematic. Stephen Purches and Simon Weatherstone, who were on his backroom staff at Bournemouth, are understood to have been keen to follow him to Celtic.

 

In addition to those two, Howe hoped to be able to appoint an assistant manager. That was felt unlikely to be Jason Tindall, his right-hand man for many years, who is currently at Sheffield United and wants to pursue his own management ambitions after a brief spell as Howe’s successor at Bournemouth this season. Alternatives were considered but, for one reason or another, no deal was struck and, ultimately, there is no deal with Howe either.

 

 

Edited November 3, 2021 by nbthree3

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

2 minutes ago, kisearch said:

Wasn't Howe as close to becoming Celtic manager as Emery was to being our manager? I'm not convinced he'll come like, I've seen Martinez's name too often and it feels like it'll end up being him purely because I can't stand him 

 

 

 

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[Elliottman]

1 hour ago, KaKa said:

 

Fantastic energy in those training sessions.

 
enjoyed the 5-7 minutes ?? 

[Wilson]

44 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

It's the same as people accusing them of indecision and dithering, when we don't have a scooby what's been happening behind the scenes.

 

They're not above criticism and they need to cut the leaks out, but some of it has been over the top.

 

 

 

 

They aren't above criticism, but they've been here just under a month, got rid of Bruce (albeit a bit slower than we hoped) and seemingly had us on the brink of bringing in a manager who was wildly above our station a month ago so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, 'still'. 

 

Also, I guess I tend to believe the Emery leaks came from elsewhere. 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 3, 2021 by Wilson

[The Prophet]

4 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

Well, they would have known that four weeks ago. They were clear Bruce was going to be peddled from the start.

 

If their intention was to start with a manager, why did it take so long to sack Bruce and/or recruit one?

 

We shouldn’t be sat here four weeks in without any sort of appointment made.

 

I don't know why its taken so long, it could be a perfectly legitimate reason, or it could be poor on their part.

[Holmesy]

If someone had told me 4 weeks ago that we’d be shot of Ashley, we’d be absolutely minted and have Eddie Howe as our manager I’d have been over the fucking moon!  Thats what I’ll base my reaction to Howe joining us on, if he does.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 3, 2021 by Holmesy

[Geordie Ahmed]

33 minutes ago, Geordie_once_removed said:

The issue with Howe for me, and apologies if it has been said by someone before, is two fold.

 

1. I feel he would have just about been attainable under Ashley.  So to end up with him after we've made something of a Fautian pack with this takeover is disappointing.  Robert Johnson didn't sell his soul to be really good at the recorder did he.

 

2. We could easily end up with a Nuno at Spurs situation, with it being pretty clear he was quite far down the list and his authority and therefore ability to change things severely diminished as a result.

 

 

 

We do need do accept our reality which is that we are 6 points adrift after a relatively kind set of fixtures

 

In addition we don't have the structure in place yet (understandably so) so it's not a normal situation where we are looking for a manager

 

If this happened in July I'm convinced we would get a much better calibre of manager but the timing and situation is making things difficult

 

We do ideally need someone in soon, so we can a) look to pick up much needed points and b) identity the priority signings needed so we can get them done at the start of January 

[Kid Icarus]

Watching that mic'd up session with Howe, he's the type of coach you'd have loved to have as a kid, tons of encouragement and confidence boosting.

[SUPERTOON]

 

[TheGuv]

[toon25]

Another doubt I have with Howe is his relative inexperience. I'd like to see coaches from a variety of backgrounds - and the best we could possibly hope to appoint at this stage - in place to facilitate that next transition. I don't think Howe has that address book, sadly, and I can well see the current fuckwits staying in place a while longer yet.

[Bimpy474]

22 minutes ago, STM said:

Wow. I'm all in.

 

Yeah i liked that, so superior to anything Bruce ever said or did.

[Geordie Ahmed]

2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

If reports are to be believed then he had already agreed verbally to join, so not sure why the sack clause put him off

 

As for Howe, if we do go down then I'd be more than happy for him to try and get us promoted 

[toontownman]

Love that a fair few of us have gone Full Howe. He will likely turn us down tmrw or we will appoint martinez instead!

[et tu brute]

3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

He is the last reporter (including Edwards) I would take any notice of. He’s always very anti Newcastle and I’ve yet to see one positive article about the club over the years. Even the way he writes that article you can tell, ‘turned down by a long list of managers’, ‘shambolic’, ‘chaotic strategy’. Fuck him the blokes a total cunt when it comes to us.

[Bimpy474]

Just watching the Eddie Howe Mic'd up vid, he's so detailed, i know that doesn't mean he'll be successful but the contrast to Bruce is mental.

 

It's the way he tells his squad how their moment isn't good enough when they go forward, and what they need to do correct it.

[Colos Short and Curlies]

I wonder with Howe whether some of our squad will feel that they have more of a chance of game time rather than under a bigger name who may want to make more of a splash in January and possibly show more motivation. 

 

I also think I may need some more straws

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

6 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

He is the last reporter (including Edwards) I would take any notice of. He’s always very anti Newcastle and I’ve yet to see one positive article about the club over the years. Even the way he writes that article you can tell, ‘turned down by a long list of managers’, ‘shambolic’, ‘chaotic strategy’. Fuck him the blokes a total cunt when it comes to us.

Correct but we best get used to it which in itself is absolutely glorious man

[Bimpy474]

How has/is our search for a manager been shambolic by the way, we approached managers and they've said no. Is it shambolic because the first one said no, or the 2nd or 3rd or whatever.

 

The treatment we get really is unrivalled in it's negativity. I want us to win things, not because I've suffered years of crap and would like to see that, i want us to do it now so i can say 'fuck you's lot, you bunch of absolute cunts'

 

 

Edited November 3, 2021 by Bimpy474

[The Prophet]

1 minute ago, Bimpy474 said:

How has/is our search for a manager been shambolic by the way, we approached managers and they've said no. Is it shambolic because the first one said no, or the 2nd or 3rd or whatever.

 

The treatment we get really is unrivalled in it's negativity. I want us to win things, not because I've suffered years of crap and would like to see that, i want us to do now so i can say 'fuck you's lot you bunch of absolute cunts'

 

It was the same with Spurs in the summer to be fair, they made their manager hunt sound like a fiasco.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Employing Bruce was far more shambolic than this, at least we are approaching competent football managers and not just getting a fat prick that loves holidays 

[Shadow Puppets]

Really don’t dislike Howe at all. Achieved a hell of a lot at Bournemouth, is clearly a very good football mind, and is potentially a manager who can grow with us, with the right investment.

 

Think it would be a good appointment.

 

I will caveat all of this by saying I’d be happy with most of the linked managers. All are big improvements over Bruce, and all are potentially good for the “next step” in our development. I would even be very happy with Gerrard. Sometimes there’s a lot to be said for having a talisman in the building.

 

I would back most of the linked managers to keep us up. There are some good players in that squad that have been woefully mismanaged. 

[B-more Mag]

16 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

He is the last reporter (including Edwards) I would take any notice of. He’s always very anti Newcastle and I’ve yet to see one positive article about the club over the years. Even the way he writes that article you can tell, ‘turned down by a long list of managers’, ‘shambolic’, ‘chaotic strategy’. Fuck him the blokes a total cunt when it comes to us.

 

I'm going to latch onto this and choose to believe the part about canceling the other interviews is B.S.

 

 

Edited November 3, 2021 by B-more Mag