Eddie Howe

[Vinny Green Balls]

3 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

People get football opinions wrong all the time I don’t see how that’s some sort of gotcha. I think it was Mick who was anti pardew even when we were winning and nobody agreed with him.

 

Rafa is a great manager but one who takes time to implement his style, hence why we went down imo. 

One again, man, we are not having a go at different opinions. How many times do we have to mention this. KI just alluded to this. And you keep on defending some of them as if we are oppressing them. FWIW, I was never attacking you. I never even had you in mind. If anything, I just find it strange that it is almost the exact people doing this, with the exception of Pilko, who defended Rafa at the time.

 

 

Edited January 15, 2022 by Vinny Green Balls

[Jordan]

Fucking hell man, are we really turning on Howe already? Get a grip. The blokes been given a fucking useless squad that’s shot to shit, had a hard December and only been given two signings so far. We have no control over teams because our midfield is invisible. We need an athletic midfielder, a centre back who’s actually PL quality and we’ll be fine. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 minutes ago, Kanji said:

Is he going to turn it around? Even with a hundred million spent in the window? I’m desperate for him to succeed because I really like him but I’m struggling here. 

An LB, CB and CM then maybe. Replace them today and we probably win. 

[Thomson Mouse]

12 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

Sadly it is, dude. Go back to the Benitez thread. The 2017-18 mid period was some grim reading. And certain people should be called out for their bullshit which sounds eerily similar. Not saying I am not disappointed with Howe, but it's fucking absurd.

 

Absolutely

[Guest neesy111]

The thing is it's a results business at the end of things.  Yes are playing better etc but the results aren't there at the moment.

 

 

Edited January 15, 2022 by neesy111

[Guest reefatoon]

1 minute ago, Tsunami said:

ASM was blowing more and left Dummett exposed for a good 10 minutes before he came off. At that stage of the game you can’t allow that to happen. Dummett played well today, he missed a tackle for the goal but I’m not sure that was all down to him and Pedro shouldn’t have been able to get that much control on his header.

He was, but the option off the bench was the shit and completely anonymous Almiron, who yet again was absolutely pointless and invisible. 

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

I just don’t buy into the idea we can’t judge Howe on the squad he is working with now.

 

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, ManDoon said:

Another striker too. ASM goal aside we looked toothless 

Ideally yeah, could maybe get away with it if we didn’t look so vulnerable all the time. 

[gbandit]

2 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

People get football opinions wrong all the time I don’t see how that’s some sort of gotcha. I think it was Mick who was anti pardew even when we were winning and nobody agreed with him.

 

Rafa is a great manager but one who takes time to implement his style, hence why we went down imo. 

Think there were about three of us who always disliked Pardew even when we were winning in that season where we finished 5th:myself, Mick and someone else I can’t remember. I really hope nothing bad happened to Mick, I never understood why he stopped posting unless it was something not to do with football as he was an absolute die hard poster 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, TheInfiniteOdyssey said:

I just don’t buy into the idea we can’t judge Howe on the squad he is working with now.

Course you can, as long as you take the quality of it into account. 

[Vinny Green Balls]

1 minute ago, ManDoon said:

I’ve probably said some outrageously wrong shite on here tbh I’m just getting ahead of it. But yeah in seriousness, I can see what you’re saying. My issue with Howe is wrong guy for the job that needed doing at the time. 

Nah, I don't include you in with some of the real shit .

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Course you can, as long as you take the quality of it into account. 

I get that, but think even with that considered, you absolutely have to get a win out of Brentford, Norwich and Watford at home

 

Not to mention one of the worst results in our modern history getting beat off Cambridge 

 

 

[WillingtonMag]

3 minutes ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said:

I just don’t buy into the idea we can’t judge Howe on the squad he is working with now.

 

 

That's fair enough can you tell me what he's doing that you disagree with or that is the cause of our results though ?

[duo]

I think the problem we have is we've people running the club who don't know football. THE first signing should have been a DOF - they should have got one in to help run the club - got them to make the decision on the new Manager, the players.  I feel because it's been left to the likes of Amanda they're making mistakes, took too long to sack bruce, took too long getting a new manager then panicked and rushed to get Howe.  Took poor advice when looking for a striker and wasted £25Mil on an out of form striker.   I don't know how we get out of this mess.

[Ash]

16 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

It’s Nickson I beleive, him and Howe 

Goes some way to explaining the apparent want for ‘PL experience’ which is worrying in itself. 

[duo]

9 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

I think Howe if we were mid table would have been the ideal appointment, I think situationally it was the wrong call. I really like the guy and very much like his football ideals 

I wouldn't say ideal but he could do less damage.  How the club thought he was the right person to keep us up I have no idea - talked the talk clearly but can't seem to walk the walk.

[r0cafella]

It’s another area which became neglected under the previous regime. 

[Thumbheed]

Second point of note and arguably the most infuriating, is that he has actually had this team looking very dangerous on the break, but rather that build on that, he's continued to try to force an ill suited style of play onto us which is costing us games. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[macphisto]

The biggest weakness of Howe for me is that he's just not inspiring, no charisma. With Benitez, you can see he has a natural authority/respect and with Bruce you can see why players would take to him at the beginning of his reign. With Howe, I just don't see him having any impact, he certainly hasn't so far and you could argue that the mental side of a relegation fight is the most important part. 

 

 

 

[Klaus]

The only player who has clearly improved under him is Joelinton. Not convinced about anyone else. I like him and want him to succeed, but so far it hasn't been good enough.

[Vinny Green Balls]

Just now, macphisto said:

The biggest weakness of Howe for me is that he's just not inspiring, no charisma. With Benitez, you can see he has a natural authority/respect and with Bruce you can see why players would take to him at the beginning of his reign. With Howe, I just don't see him having any impact, he certainly hasn't so far and you could argue that the mental side of a relegation fight is the most important part. 

 

 

 

What? He comes across as having a lot of charisma.

[Kid Icarus]

The only thing I don't get is this whole idea of 'you criticised X so you must criticise Y' because it requires you to completely ignore all context - their records, the difference in time, the fact that two things (bad squad and good/bad manager) can be true at once.

 

If Trippier makes a mistake and Lascelles makes the same mistake, one's going to get more stick than the other because these things don't exist in isolation - the same sort of thing applies to managers and we had years and years to make those distinctions between Rafa and Bruce to the extent that they were more or less 100% known entities. Howe undoubtedly sits in-between those two in terms of how much rope they'll get from fans to get it right.

 

 

 

Edited January 15, 2022 by Kid Icarus

[macphisto]

Just now, Vinny Green Balls said:

What? He comes across as having a lot of charisma.

Each to their own but he doesn't to me. Indeed, I find him quite bland. He's well presented, probably had good media training as he talks well enough but that's not charisma in my book.

[toon25]

13 minutes ago, Ash said:

Goes some way to explaining the apparent want for ‘PL experience’ which is worrying in itself. 

And the comments re: 'a foculpoint for the team'. It just sounded primitive/the sort of shit a pfm would come out with.

[Pilko]

15 minutes ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said:

I just don’t buy into the idea we can’t judge Howe on the squad he is working with now.

 

 

 

Because we all sat here and said "The squad is terrible but Bruce is the fucking pits, this team would be doing better under someone even halfway competent".

 

And Howe has come in, and made absolutely no impact whatsoever other than stumbling upon Joelinton being a canny CM (which he only discovered by starting Clark, another Howe mistake).

 

The narrative seems to have shifted from "squad shit, Bruce making it worse" to "squad so shit that nobody in the world could fix it" just so people can defend Eddie Howe. He's hoodwinked so many on this forum and it's plain as day he's not up to the job.