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5 hours ago, r0cafella said:

Can really compare to be honest. Rafa didn’t have the PIF backing him. 
 

and that’s not to take anything away from the gaffa who has transformed us. 

While any comparison is flawed given their owners, I think the recent achievements of both goes to show Howe is better. Rafa did a great job of making us a solid defensive team on a low budget, we still had lots of terrible spells and at times played dull football as a result of the style. He need completely bombed at Everton with a squad easily stronger on paper.
 

Howe conversely consistently made Bournemouth an overachieving side that played attractive football for a few years after great success getting them promoted up the leagues, despite a poor end. He then, however, developed himself whereas Rafa has been relying on an outdated style that hasn’t brought him near the amount of success in recent years. I think while Rafa you’d always respect too, Howe’s personality is that bit more infectious too while clearly working the players hard. 
 

Should have sacked Howe and got Rafa back when he was sacked by Everton though ;)

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Enjoyed that browse I just had of the Villa forum. I don't hate the club by any means despite the seemingly typical disdain from their fans, but fuck I'm itching for the Scouse Souness to fail. Bet he was slagging off the players loads on his post-matchs.

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1 hour ago, St. Maximin said:

While any comparison is flawed given their owners, I think the recent achievements of both goes to show Howe is better. Rafa did a great job of making us a solid defensive team on a low budget, we still had lots of terrible spells and at times played dull football as a result of the style. He need completely bombed at Everton with a squad easily stronger on paper.
 

Howe conversely consistently made Bournemouth an overachieving side that played attractive football for a few years after great success getting them promoted up the leagues, despite a poor end. He then, however, developed himself whereas Rafa has been relying on an outdated style that hasn’t brought him near the amount of success in recent years. I think while Rafa you’d always respect too, Howe’s personality is that bit more infectious too while clearly working the players hard. 
 

Should have sacked Howe and got Rafa back when he was sacked by Everton though ;)

What kind of nonsense is this? Let’s forget the two la ligas Rafa won with Valencia or his champions league winners medal. 
 

again totally stupid comparison both are fantastic managers. 

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Love Howe. Love what he is doing with the team, love the style of play he has implemented, so good to watch. Love the mentality and morale he has built up amongst the squad. But mainly I love how he has made me love my club again. This ride is going to be unbelievable. 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

What kind of nonsense is this? Let’s forget the two la ligas Rafa won with Valencia or his champions league winners medal. 
 

again totally stupid comparison both are fantastic managers. 

Errr… So I make a polite, reasonable and detailed post and you come out with this. Classic Newcastle Online [emoji38]

 

You’re the one chatting nonsense seeing as you’re talking about events that happened 17+ years ago. I clearly mentioned I was specifically talking about recently, in which Rafa has clearly been less successful. No doubt he’s has had a very successful past, but that’s not what is currently relevant here. Seriously how you’ve jumped to that nonsense conclusion I’ll never know, but seems Rafa is untouchable due to achievements from many years ago…

 

 

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1 minute ago, St. Maximin said:

Errr… So I make a polite, reasonable and detailed post and you come out with this. Classic Newcastle Online [emoji38]

 

You’re the one chatting nonsense seeing as you’re talking about events that happened 17+ years ago. I clearly mentioned I was specifically talking about recently, in which Rafa has clearly been less successful. Seriously how you’ve junked to that conclusion I’ll never know but seems Rafa is untouchable due to achievements from many years ago…

Aye, I love Rafa but football has moved on a lot since then like [emoji38]

 

He's clearly no longer an elite manager, and as much as I appreciate having him here I'm glad he was never in contention to come back.

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1 minute ago, xLiaaamx said:

I personally think we'd be worse off if Rafa had been available when the takeover happened and we went for him

 

No chance whatsoever. With the backing from the owners and the fans Rafa would have shone too.

 

However, Eddie is a better fit IMO, because he's less rigid tactically, is a bit more relatable with the players, his style of football is also more attack minded, which inspires the crowd more.

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8 minutes ago, KaKa said:

Just going to leave this here ... makes for absolutely fantastic reading right now.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10192591/Steven-Gerrard-Aston-Villa-perfect-fit-Newcastle-blew-chance-appointing-him.html

 

 

:yao:

Is he fucking tripping?

I mean by all means write an article explaining why you think Gerrard is a good fit for Villa, but to drag us into it is just lunacy.

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"Aston Villa have won two of their last twelve premier league games. Both games were against teams that are no longer in the premier league. 

 

Aston Villa's win against Leicester at the start of December 2021 is the last time they beat a team that finished higher than 15th in last year's premier league table."

 

If the above is true, that terrible.

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1 minute ago, Happinesstan said:

Is he fucking tripping?

I mean by all means write an article explaining why you think Gerrard is a good fit for Villa, but to drag us into it is just lunacy.

 

It was so pathetic :lol:

 

His incredulity at the thought we'd want to interview Gerrard was incredible :lol:

 

Even had a pop at the Howe signing saying it was underwhelming. Shocking article.

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1 minute ago, KaKa said:

 

It was so pathetic :lol:

 

His incredulity at the thought we'd want to interview Gerrard was incredible :lol:

 

Even had a pop at the Howe signing saying it was underwhelming. Shocking article.

I had to check the date as I felt sure it was 8 months old.

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I am feeling rather smug after so many Villa fans were boasting about how much better Gerrard was back in November. Especially when it was at a time that we couldn’t buy a win. 
 

Gerrard will be gone by Xmas.

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