Lush Vlad Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 10 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Christ I'll never get sick of that Schar PSG goal. I love the look on his face... it's got the "I'm fucking class," that you'd expect from him but there's a little glimmer of "as if this is happening" in there. What a night. Said it in another thread regarding the Barnes winner against West Ham. But the Fletch commentary was good that night and I do like how he gets caught up in the moment and the emotion. He is an annoying wafflebag. But he has become synonymous with CL games because of BT/TNT. So it was nice hearing him get all excited as every goal went in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) Some interesting bits in this, in summary: Tonali's ban us viewed internally having "absolutely fucked us". In the Premier Leaague, we are 10th in terms of soft tissue injuries suffered and are below the league average for hamstring injuries. This is a big improvement on Howe's Bournemouth days. We've had an league high average of 6.2 absentees a game, but our injuries per 1,000 minutes played is actually down on last season. Longstaff has been playing with an ankle injury since November. The pre-seaaon tour of the US was too hectic with too much travelling and putting players under physical pressure too early. We are investigating the training pitches. Overall, it's a very long article, covering the conflicts Howe faced and lessons he may have taken from this season. It's decent reading if you have a spare weekend. Edited April 11 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Good to know that about Longstaff, because his drop off has been significant, and it's been frustrating to see. Fair play to him if he's been playing through injuries that are making his mobility more difficult. Can't be upset with him at all really, knowing that's the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 20 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Some interesting bits in this, in summary: Tonali's ban us viewed interanla6aa having "absolutely fucked us". In the Premier Leaague, we are 10th in terms of soft tissue injuries suffered and are below the league average for hamstring injuries. This is a big improvement on Howe's Bournemouth days. We've had an league high average of 6.2 absentees a game, but our injuries per 1,000 minutes played is actually down on last season. Longstaff has been playing with an ankle injury since November. The pre-seaaon tour of the US was too hectic with too much travelling and putting players under physical pressure too early. We ate investigating the training pitches. Overall, it's a very long article, covering the conflicts Howe faced and lessons he may have taken from this season. It's decent reading if you have a spare weekend. Not that they wouldn’t have been, but it’s good to know they are aware of issues. Guess that rules out a US tour this pre season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 7 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Not that they wouldn’t have been, but it’s good to know they are aware of issues. Guess that rules out a US tour this pre season. You'd say that, but we are taking a squad to Australia for two friendlies in two days, half a week after the season ends Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 There's no way we won't do another international tour if it's commercially attractive. There's no doubting that such trips do little to help actual preparation for the season but we'll just have to adapt as best we can. Without reading the article I'm not sure how related it can even be to the injury crisis. The pre-season tour didn't break two backs, dislocate two shoulders, snap two ACLs or give Harvey Barnes turf toe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 At least we’re getting this long haul trip done early. I guess it is what happens between then and preseason training which is most important in terms of sensible prep for next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, 54 said: You'd say that, but we are taking a squad to Australia for two friendlies in two days, half a week after the season ends Yeah, and that makes more sense. Attach it to the end of the season, and then let everyone go off on their holidays and then come back for a more standard pre season that doesn't take too much out of them right from the start of next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Nothing wrong with going on tours, just don’t need to play so many games. Feel in modern football, Pep/Man City have the right idea. They rarely more than 2/3 pre season games, and it’s mostly just spent on training ground. What most top sides should do IMO. We played 2 games, then flew to USA where 5 after days after last we were playing again and 3 in quick succession, travelling across vast distances. Must be little spent actual training and it spent playing, recovery, travel, playing. We end this season playing in Australia 3 days after season end which is pure jokes . Going to be bare squad going out there as I’d want all senior players rested. Like Bruno/Isak etc better not play. Get an injury in those games and miss 2 months and as a result pre season, would be so detrimental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 3 hours ago, Yorkie said: There's no way we won't do another international tour if it's commercially attractive. There's no doubting that such trips do little to help actual preparation for the season but we'll just have to adapt as best we can. Without reading the article I'm not sure how related it can even be to the injury crisis. The pre-season tour didn't break two backs, dislocate two shoulders, snap two ACLs or give Harvey Barnes turf toe. Feels like anything and everything gets blamed in these circumstances. There's absolutely no way anybody at NUFC was thinking 'that bloody preseason tour!' in October, I'm sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, Gallowgate Toon said: Feels like anything and everything gets blamed in these circumstances. There's absolutely no way anybody at NUFC was thinking 'that bloody preseason tour!' in October, I'm sure. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Starting the season fully match fit because of such a tournament (if everyone had the constitution of Gordon…) and it was a great decision. Have your ‘potential’ season wrecked by injuries and suddenly it, training pitches, medical team, the unrealistic expectations of our playing style, etc etc all get put under the microscope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I'm struggling with the blame on the US tour. I imagine it was a hectic week+, but we basically approached it like this: Villa - A team first half / B team second half Chelsea - A team Brighton - B team There were some outliers, like Trippier played almost two full 90s in a span of three days. Probably not ideal when ramping up and I can also accept that the PL opposition may have upped the intensity a bit. But we stayed in a single time zone, though we could have helped ourselves by being based between NYC/Philly and not Atlanta (logistics and PL decisions from the PL may have forced our hand ... or Eales), and it was a couple weeks before the season started. A week on the east coast with first class/charter travel shouldn't be too much of a burden. One mistake was probably playing four other preseason games on top of those three. 7 games seems like a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 6 hours ago, Sibierski said: Nothing wrong with going on tours, just don’t need to play so many games. Feel in modern football, Pep/Man City have the right idea. They rarely more than 2/3 pre season games, and it’s mostly just spent on training ground. What most top sides should do IMO. We played 2 games, then flew to USA where 5 after days after last we were playing again and 3 in quick succession, travelling across vast distances. Must be little spent actual training and it spent playing, recovery, travel, playing. We end this season playing in Australia 3 days after season end which is pure jokes . Going to be bare squad going out there as I’d want all senior players rested. Like Bruno/Isak etc better not play. Get an injury in those games and miss 2 months and as a result pre season, would be so detrimental. course they fucking do. FFP doesnt apply to them. no reaching down the back of the sofa looking for spare change at their house. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 19 minutes ago, huss9 said: course they fucking do. FFP doesnt apply to them. no reaching down the back of the sofa looking for spare change at their house. Huh? They still do the commercial tours, just not packed with countless pointless games. 23/24: 3 Games; 22-23: 2 Games (with a random one after season started) ; 21-22: 3 Games; 20/21 0 Games; 19/20 4 Games; 18/19 3 Games. Most of them come with community shield which is essentially a higher pace pre season game, but it’s so few compared to average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 51 minutes ago, Sibierski said: Huh? They still do the commercial tours, just not packed with countless pointless games. you said they 23/24: 3 Games; 22-23: 2 Games (with a random one after season started) ; 21-22: 3 Games; 20/21 0 Games; 19/20 4 Games; 18/19 3 Games. Most of them come with community shield which is essentially a higher pace pre season game, but it’s so few compared to average. i think you misunderstood me. you said city and pep have the right idea to limit preseason friendlies. i was being sarcastic... of course they have the right idea - its because they not desperate for money in the way we are. we wou;dnt be going to australia if we weren't desperate to incease income. fuck knows why spurs are going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 To br fair, the US tour was mentioned early doors as being really intense. Might have been Burn who discussed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 56 minutes ago, huss9 said: i think you misunderstood me. you said city and pep have the right idea to limit preseason friendlies. i was being sarcastic... of course they have the right idea - its because they not desperate for money in the way we are. we wou;dnt be going to australia if we weren't desperate to incease income. fuck knows why spurs are going. Boosts global profile doesn't it, has folk buying merchandise and potentially spending big bucks as 'package' deals to come watch us, etc. (Potentially). All just speculate to accumulate I'd guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordshola Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Absolute masterclass from Howe this first half. Ange only has one way to play and doesn’t adjust. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 We might go on to lose or draw this game but the level of disrespect from some fans before the game…. They don’t deserve him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 13 minutes ago, Lordshola said: Absolute masterclass from Howe this first half. Ange only has one way to play and doesn’t adjust. Could you say he, has no plan B? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) The only thing I'll say is, we've been as fans asking all season for this defence to be picked so why its taken until now and an unparalleled amount of injuries for Howe to finally pick it is beyond me. Edited April 13 by TBG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 To actually be in 6th after this shitshow of a season is fucking phenomenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Would the Eddie bed wetters please stand up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Best manager in 100 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Tactical masterclass, an absolute copybook tactical masterclass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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