Guest reefatoon Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 34 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: I'm firmly back on Fonseca fwiw - we need complete revolution at this point. The players definitely need showing and taught something different like. The constant “we have to have everyone behind the ball because we are shit and will get humped” mantra they have been subjected too for the last couple of years is obviously not doing them any good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, reefatoon said: The players definitely need showing and taught something different like. The constant “we have to have everyone behind the ball because we are shit and will get humped” mantra they have been subjected too for the last couple of years is obviously not doing them any good. This is my worry with everyone's favourite. Rafa might not try to change too much from today. He'd use the same plan with tweaks and I'm not sure that'll do enough for the players right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: This is my worry with everyone's favourite. Rafa might not try to change too much from today. He'd use the same plan with tweaks and I'm not sure that'll do enough for the players right now. Good grief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Hope the new manager doesn't play some of the players that started today, or ASM up front and so on and so on. I want a new manager to start from scratch 100% and not taking too much advise from whoever they are. Whoever the new manager will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Great contribution, Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: This is my worry with everyone's favourite. Rafa might not try to change too much from today. He'd use the same plan with tweaks and I'm not sure that'll do enough for the players right now. Majority of our squad was here when we had Benitez. Not that we're getting him anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelevats Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 New ownership took too long to bin Bruce. New owners taking too long to employ a new manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Ikon said: Hope the new manager doesn't play some of the players that started today, or ASM up front and so on and so on. I want a new manager to start from scratch 100% and not taking too much advise from whoever they are. Whoever the new manager will be. Hopefully if the new manager was watching, he would be thinking that it didn’t work and would have his own ideas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, reefatoon said: The players definitely need showing and taught something different like. The constant “we have to have everyone behind the ball because we are shit and will get humped” mantra they have been subjected too for the last couple of years is obviously not doing them any good. 5 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: This is my worry with everyone's favourite. Rafa might not try to change too much from today. He'd use the same plan with tweaks and I'm not sure that'll do enough for the players right now. The thing is, if you want to play with backs to the wall, absorb pressure and hit on the break to snatch a winner, then that team has to be FIT, that is something because of the 2-3 day weeks under cabbage head this team doesn’t have, the game plan worked until about 60mins when the lack of fitness showed, a few more weeks of 5 day weeks and the fitness will show, we had almost the same team under Rafa and it worked because we were fit Edited October 30, 2021 by nufcnick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, nufcnick said: The thing is, if you want to play with backs to the wall, absorb pressure and hit on the break to snatch a winner, then that team has to be FIT, that is something because of the 2-3 day weeks under cabbage head this team doesn’t have, the game plan worked until about 60mins when the lack of fitness showed, a few more weeks of 5 day weeks and the fitness will show we were just waiting for them to get that goal. We could all see it was going to come. We can’t play the backs to the wall football though as we seem to leave so many gaps and space for the opposition. I honestly don’t know how we do it. How can we have so many people back yet still allows teams so much space? It’s fucking mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Ritchie always ends up either standing on Clark or Fraser. He might aswell not be there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, reefatoon said: we were just waiting for them to get that goal. We could all see it was going to come. We can’t play the backs to the wall football though as we seem to leave so many gaps and space for the opposition. I honestly don’t know how we do it. How can we have so many people back yet still allows teams so much space? It’s fucking mental. That’s because there was no Plan other than to absorb, under Rafa we were fit and had a plan when we got the ball, it’s going to take at least another 2 weeks to get the fitness back after cabbage heads laziness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, nufcnick said: That’s because there was no Plan other than to absorb, under Rafa we were fit and had a plan when we got the ball, it’s going to take at least another 2 weeks to get the fitness back after cabbage heads laziness It’s more than just fitness we need. More running isn’t going to solve our problems. We need a new manager in with new ideas, as our current idea has us second bottom and winless. Edited October 30, 2021 by reefatoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 minute ago, nufcnick said: That’s because there was no Plan other than to absorb, under Rafa we were fit and had a plan when we got the ball, it’s going to take at least another 2 weeks to get the fitness back after cabbage heads laziness Yep. It's difficult to have a 90 minute plan when your players can only last sixty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) I don't think you can judge it on the game today, of course you can pick apart what we did, or didn't do. What we should have done with the line up and tactics etc. We're an awful football team, we reflected what our manager was, an awful manager. But judging us against the best team on current form, and probably the best all round squad and all round football ability in our league, is probably not the best yard stick. In saying that though, we were terrible, utterly awful, a team who can't pass the ball 5 yards to each other, a side who create fuck all most of the time, but on the flip side, we're also a side with no confidence after being managed by an utter buffoon. Without new players we're down imo, but a new manager and a few signings we should get out of it, and even if that does happen it's going to be a tough fight. We need organisation, we need a system to create chances, a pattern of play. The long and the short of it, we need a proper manager now. Edited October 30, 2021 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: This is my worry with everyone's favourite. Rafa might not try to change too much from today. He'd use the same plan with tweaks and I'm not sure that'll do enough for the players right now. It's a moot point anyway. Benitez is not coming back here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, reefatoon said: It’s more than just fitness we need. More running isn’t going to solve our problems. We need a new manager in with new ideas, as our current idea has us second bottom and winless. I’m not saying a new manager with new ideas isn’t needed, what I’m saying is when you’re fit have have more chance of being able to absorb and then steal a winner(Rafa teams), it’s the lapses in concentration that cost us today through lack of fitness, tired body leads to a tired mind. Look at Brighton for example yes they have a cracking coach, but they are fit and look like they can run for days, same with palace, if you don’t have a good team then the team you have needs to have high fitness levels. At the start of the season if you looked on paper, you would say man for man we had a far better team than Brighton, it goes to show what a well drilled fit team can do Edited October 30, 2021 by nufcnick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Yep. It's difficult to have a 90 minute plan when your players can only last sixty. This ^^^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorCoarse Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Even if its only for the rest of the season we need a manager right now , this minute . DOF and all the other stuff can be thought about when we achieve safety . PIF need to shit or get off the pot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Regarding the rumours about Martinez continuing with the Belgium gig if he comes here; does that even happen these days? Yes I understand that being a national team manager is less demanding but I find it hard to see him doing both jobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 There is no way an international manager can split a job with Newcastle United. There is too much to do. The press won’t give him a chance either, if he thinks it’s bad getting flack from national papers just wait until they find out what it’s like being the only source of 30 pages for a regional paper like the chronicle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Collage said: Regarding the rumours about Martinez continuing with the Belgium gig if he comes here; does that even happen these days? Yes I understand that being a national team manager is less demanding but I find it hard to see him doing both jobs. We certainly would be foolish to allow it, it would make an awful appointment even worse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 We may well be joined by Spurs in the manager hunt and will probably be after the same names Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 This needs to be sorted asap now. We can’t waste another game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Decky said: This needs to be sorted asap now. We can’t waste another game. Yup. We have 3 home games coming up which we should () see as winnable. We are already starting to see a gap forming above the bottom 3 Edited October 30, 2021 by Klaus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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