Yorkie Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Cheers for the take, @TopSnagger. Stick around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 top top manager, hope this gets done. Absolutely love this guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 This cunt been sacked yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Yeah could do with a gooner around the place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TopSnagger said: Arsenal fan (Not the RTG in peace type) who's lived up north near Gateshead so love Newcastle too. Very capable manager chased away by fans who didn't appreciate how poor the squad was and by players with a shocking attitude who have since been shipped out. So happy to see him land on his feet at a big club with a huge transfer bounty hopefully. His English is far better than the media would have you believe, Good ebening's aside, he was easily able to communicate what he wanted to say without the use of a translator. I will say though, seeing how some of you dislike defensive football that he's not the most aggressive manager. We had some shocking games with 20-30 shots against, but that was also possibly because of players possibly not playing for him. But he has a 'pragmatic' attitude which Tets also has. Still, he easily outmanaged Tets in the Europa League game. Easily a top manager imo, and probably the best you can get with Dummett and Shelvey still in the squad. I think I can easily say that he'll have you top 6 in a couple of years if backed with money and if you survive relegation (Big ifs coz you guys look dreadful currently) We don't dislike defensive football as long as there is a plan, like Rafa. Edited November 2, 2021 by Rocker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rocker said: We don't dislike defensive football, as long as there is a plan, like Rafa. Yeah if the assumption about disliking negative football has come from the Bruce days, then the media have done him (another) favour. There's defensive football and then there's terrible football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Emery will lead the rebirth of this club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopSnagger Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, Rocker said: We don't dislike defensive football, as long as there is a plan, like Rafa. Then hopefully it goes well. Emery started pretty well with us, we had two losses then that long unbeaten run. He did well till we had Ramsey, then after he left, we had some shocking, shocking games. There was a Watford game we drew iirc, but we conceded like 30 shots to like 4 for us or something. Maybe I'm overstating how bad it was from memory though. He had an awful habit of the team sitting back after scoring then we conceded eventually. But he probably has to get a new system for this season for you guys. Bellerin had the season of his life under Emery before he was injured, because he had wingbacks up and crossing. Don't follow NUFC much, but pretty sure you guys have horribly fullbacks like Dummett (Though I will probably be wrong, I don't follow you guys a lot). That said, if he can get Willock to do the Ramsey thing, Wilson firing and fullbacks with good, low crosses into Willock's runs and Wilson, I think he can do well. No idea how he'll do in a relegation scenario though. But I think most of us probably thought the same for Benitez when he went to Newcastle and he improved over Mclaren so no idea how far the conventional bring in the English lads to save from relegation logic even works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, TotalWar said: Ive talked in other threads about excitement. The proposed appointment of Emery, and the excitement it seems to have generated in many on here made me think of all the managerial appointments Ive seen as a supporter, and which of them excited me on appointment. i think its fair to say that mostly I was far more delighted to see them be sacked than become manager. Even a manager like Arthur Cox who I really loved, was obviously very much a meh appointment. Keegan first time, was such an unknown quantity, but, yes, I was excited. There was a feeling that Dalglish would turn us in to title winners, but Im not sure anyone was excited. Bobby Robson was obviously exciting. Keegan second time, again exciting, as that was in the time that Ashley was engaged with the club. Rafa, seemed like a beacon of light, and so was exciting, with the caveat that Ashley just didnt care and wouldnt support him. Emery, I feel excited. Great appointment if it happens, a statement of intent. so out of 20 off fulltime managers, four of them were exciting to me when they were appointed. Emery is one of them. So if you feel excited at the prospect, enjoy it, it hasnt happened too often. Tbf I was all in for Sexy Futball when Gullit came. How terribly that went. 3 minutes ago, Rocker said: We don't dislike defensive football, as long as there is a plan, like Rafa. Seems similar but Emery is a bit more forward thinking than Rafa. It will be polar opposite to what we have had in every aspect. That is needed. I hope he is a bit more personable that Rafa and some ex players have said about him. We need some militance right now though no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, TotalWar said: Ive talked in other threads about excitement. The proposed appointment of Emery, and the excitement it seems to have generated in many on here made me think of all the managerial appointments Ive seen as a supporter, and which of them excited me on appointment. i think its fair to say that mostly I was far more delighted to see them be sacked than become manager. Even a manager like Arthur Cox who I really loved, was obviously very much a meh appointment. Keegan first time, was such an unknown quantity, but, yes, I was excited. There was a feeling that Dalglish would turn us in to title winners, but Im not sure anyone was excited. Bobby Robson was obviously exciting. Keegan second time, again exciting, as that was in the time that Ashley was engaged with the club. Rafa, seemed like a beacon of light, and so was exciting, with the caveat that Ashley just didnt care and wouldnt support him. Emery, I feel excited. Great appointment if it happens, a statement of intent. so out of 20 off fulltime managers, four of them were exciting to me when they were appointed. Emery is one of them. So if you feel excited at the prospect, enjoy it, it hasnt happened too often. Ruud Gullit was exciting as fuck. Sexy football. Bobby was amazing as well. Keegan coming back, still remember it. This doesn't come anywhere as close as any of them but I've had the life sucked out of me football wise so this is expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Yeah if the assumption about disliking negative football has come from the Bruce days, then the media have done him (another) favour. There's defensive football and then there's terrible football. We soaked up City (at home, Rafa's last season) and Hayden and Longstaff played their team off the park. We battled, we fought, and we not only equalized in 2nd half but won the match. Rafa masterclass. Our fans appreciate a plan, a team that carries out the plan, and ultimately we will always back that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Would be a fantastic, highly impressive appointment. Newcastle Unai-ted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopSnagger Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Tbf, I think defensive football was the wrong word. When going for games, we used to press high and played out from the back often very very calamitously because Cech can't play out of the back to save his life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 We tried playing out from the back under McClaren....for a while Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopSnagger Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) Best of what Emery did at us (Were some awful moments in between too). But you'll notice fullbacks pushing up high and overlapping and sending in many short crosses He's also very open with his feelings on the touchline Edited November 2, 2021 by TopSnagger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 It’s going to be interesting watching him try and impose that style on our current squad. And by interesting I mean equal parts comical and infuriating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopSnagger Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just now, christ said: It’s going to be interesting watching him try and impose that style on our current squad. And by interesting I mean equal parts comical and infuriating. It was brutal to watch early on with frankly much better players when he tried it at ours. How is Dubravka with the ball at his feet? He infuriatingly wanted us to pass the ball to the centerback inside the box almost all the time and it was fucking scary to watch. Watching Cech playing out to Mustafi who will play it to Xhaka was equal parts scary and hilarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Not sure if it's already been posted: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, TopSnagger said: It was brutal to watch early on with frankly much better players when he tried it at ours. How is Dubravka with the ball at his feet? He infuriatingly wanted us to pass the ball to the centerback inside the box almost all the time and it was fucking scary to watch. Watching Cech playing out to Mustafi who will play it to Xhaka was equal parts scary and hilarious. Dubravka can play out from the back. It’s one of the reasons Rafa signed him. Darlow on the other hand… We don’t have any real pace at the back and I don’t think any of our defenders could adapt to a pressing game. We’ll have to spend in Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: You are sack. I was thinking more along the lines of ‘You! Cones’ but I much prefer these Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Suicidal football is the best kind of football. High risk, high reward. LFG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopSnagger Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, christ said: Dubravka can play out from the back. It’s one of the reasons Rafa signed him. Darlow on the other hand… We don’t have any real pace at the back and I don’t think any of our defenders could adapt to a pressing game. We’ll have to spend in Jan. I'm assuming he has a plan B. The Emery teams we saw in the Europa league against us, and the Sevilla team against Liverpool were not the sort of team we tried to be. So I'm guessing from those matches that he can set up a team to defend and play a more direct style. He was organised in those games, also in the final against United. Which makes me think our experience with his more attacking football won't be seen at NUFC for a year at least Edited November 2, 2021 by TopSnagger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unaited Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Can't wait for this to be announced. Will be a fantastic appointment and a statement of intent from our new custodians. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, christ said: Dubravka can play out from the back. It’s one of the reasons Rafa signed him. Darlow on the other hand… We don’t have any real pace at the back and I don’t think any of our defenders could adapt to a pressing game. We’ll have to spend in Jan. I think Lewis might be a good makeshift in that kind of system until the January window at the very least. I can see him getting a lot more game time over the next couple of months because Ritchie at left back is an absolute disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, TopSnagger said: Best of what Emery did at us (Were some awful moments in between too). But you'll notice fullbacks pushing up high and overlapping and sending in many short crosses He's also very open with his feelings on the touchline An arsenal supporting mate mentioned by the end most players looked like they didnt know what they were supposed to be doing? Which goes against what I read about his tactical prowess and discipline. Do you think players had just given up on him at that point? There were rotten eggs around him that you mentioned? I wonder whether super high intensity all the time wears players down over time to the point they are mentally broken? Hence being a good short term manager but long term struggling? If he gets the players/characters he needs (with a good DOF appointment) that should be less of a problem. If things go to plan I don't see much more than a handful or so of the current squad being here in a year or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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