Wilson Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, HTT II said: They haven’t done a whole lot wrong for me, they’ve bought the club, got rid of Bruce, connected with fans, targeted Emery and seem to have a professional process and I wouldn’t read too much into leaks and journo shit either because they know nowt. All this on the back of the almost daily constant spotlight and outrage by other clubs, fans and talking heads. Let’s not get hysterical, they’ve been here less than a month and are not football people, they want the best football people in they can get, that’s going to be hard when we are as shit as we are. They are not beyond criticism, but some of the shit on here lately is embarrassing. I’m relaxed and calm right now about things, we need to think about the bigger picture and try and look at what things will look like in 3 years not one fucking month. Trying to keep off here for this exact reason, jumped on and seen this. Very well put. People blaming them for leaking everything (despited not knowing) and accusing them of getting everything wrong is, as you say, embarrassing. Cheers for putting it in better words than I could have. Edited November 3, 2021 by Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_once_removed Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) The issue with Howe for me, and apologies if it has been said by someone before, is two fold. 1. I feel he would have just about been attainable under Ashley. So to end up with him after we've made something of a Fautian pack with this takeover is disappointing. Robert Johnson didn't sell his soul to be really good at the recorder did he. 2. We could easily end up with a Nuno at Spurs situation, with it being pretty clear he was quite far down the list and his authority and therefore ability to change things severely diminished as a result. Edited November 3, 2021 by Geordie_once_removed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 minutes into a YouTube video of Howe and he mentions ‘how can we impose ourselves on them’ after Bruceball I’m sold on Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: "That decision means Newcastle must begin their managerial search again." That's got to be an overstatement--I hope. They'd have to know nothing is ever done until it's done and would be similarly far down the road on a deal with Howe or whomever else--I hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_once_removed Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, KDT said: 3 minutes into a YouTube video of Howe and he mentions ‘how can we impose ourselves on them’ after Bruceball I’m sold on Howe. Is the answer "Treat the ball like a Covid ridden snotty tissue?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Mad how Howe was a manager at 30 years old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 At this rate, Jones might hit the magical 10 games needed to be considered permanent manager. Time to put some money on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Danh1 said: Feeling much better about Howe now. Was gutted this morning but fuck it, let’s get behind Eddie. Just be good to have someone external come in and try and do something different with the players. I'm the same. I've watched some videos of him and he seems really methodical. Saw one interview with him and Lineker and Howe said he gets to the training ground at 6am and will be there until 7pm. Polar opposite to Bruce and could be an exciting appointment. Would be good to have him in the stand at the weekend if we can't get it done in time to have him in the dugout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Like someone mentioned, if it’s Howe I really hope he comes with a new coaching team. A fresh new clean take on it all with nobody we currently have kept on, and I will be more than happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Geordie_once_removed said: The issue with Howe for me, and apologies if it has been said by someone before, is two fold. 1. I feel would have just about been attainable under Ashley. So to end up with him after we've made something of a Fautian pack with this takeover is disappointing. Robert Johnson didn't sell his soul to be really good at the recorder did he. 2. We could easily end up with a Nuno at Spurs situation, with it being pretty clear he was quite far down the list and his authority and therefore ability to change things severely diminished as a result. I think we're giving Ashley way too much credit when it comes to appointing Howe. Think Howe would have flat out rejected him Howe under Ashley would have had nothing to spend, no improvements to any areas of the club whatsoever, fans all still pissed off and fed up with everything. Don't think it would have been feasible at all. Howe seems like he is being quite selective over his next move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Wilson said: Trying to keep off here for this exact reason, jumped on and seen this. Very well put. People blaming them for leaking everything (despited not knowing) and accusing them of getting everything wrong is, as you say, embarrassing. Cheers for putting it in better words than I could have. It's the same as people accusing them of indecision and dithering, when we don't have a scooby what's been happening behind the scenes. They're not above criticism and they need to cut the leaks out, but some of it has been over the top. Edited November 3, 2021 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, KaKa said: I think we're giving Ashley way too much credit when it comes to appointing Howe. Think Howe would have flat out rejected him Howe under Ashley would have had nothing to spend, no improvements to any areas of the club whatsoever, fans all still pissed off and fed up with everything. Don't think it would have been feasible at all. Howe seems like he is being quite selective over his next move. I agree, don’t think for one minute he would’ve came here under that fat whopper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 The impression I got from the Sky Sports video of Howe was that he was looking for a project and not just another job. We are that project. Get. Him. In. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Might’ve already been posted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Danh1 said: Mad how Howe was a manager at 30 years old. Nagelsmann (now of Bayern) was 28 when he took charge of Hoffenheim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) I don’t think the criticism is particularly unfair like. We’re a whole month in and we’ve failed to make a single footballing appointment. I’m not surprised Emery had reservations, it’s fairly obvious the plan isn’t there yet. How can we convince top players and managers to join if we don’t have a DoF, or any equivalent role, if that’s a structure we’re looking at? How can our plans be set if the key people involved in those plans aren’t even through the door? I get the manager appointment couldn’t be done imminently. But I fail to believe the consortium haven’t had a single person lined up for a role in the club. Unless they get their act together soon and make the right appointments, we might very well be the richest team in the Championship. Edited November 3, 2021 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Top managers will get a shock when rocking up in Benton tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Well, maybe Howe comes in with a point to prove. Everybody knows he wasn't our first choice. Hope this doesn't mean we are stuck with Ritchie at left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Mood swing tonight man ? it’s brilliant we all now care and have an opinion which I absolutely love but at the end of the day there is completely fuck all we can do about it we will be what we will be, the people making the decisions will make mistakes, that to me makes them human, unlike the fuckwits we’ve endured for 14 years, give them time, respect and they will make all the fragments of our beloved club fit back together all this will be a bad dream in 5 years I’m convinced of that peace out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, PlymouthGeordie said: I'm the same. I've watched some videos of him and he seems really methodical. Saw one interview with him and Lineker and Howe said he gets to the training ground at 6am and will be there until 7pm. Polar opposite to Bruce and could be an exciting appointment. Would be good to have him in the stand at the weekend if we can't get it done in time to have him in the dugout. Same, impressed by what I've seen and from what I can tell Bournemouth were very unlucky in his final season with injuries and big signings not working out, seems like the supporters generally didn't blame him for it, wished him well and thought he would go on to better things. It's a rare thing for a manager to leave on good terms with the supporters like that and I think it says a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_once_removed Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, KaKa said: I think we're giving Ashley way too much credit when it comes to appointing Howe. Think Howe would have flat out rejected him Howe under Ashley would have had nothing to spend, no improvements to any areas of the club whatsoever, fans all still pissed off and fed up with everything. Don't think it would have been feasible at all. Howe seems like he is being quite selective over his next move. I take your point and I did say 'just about', clearly the fat man would have had to either lie through his teeth (not difficult for him) or shifted his approach to running the club to get him. I was as much talking about no directly footballing things. We can all agree there was a distinct lack of imagination under Ashley and so is as much the Howe would have occurred to the dulled imaginations of Ashley and co. as he is British and available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: I don’t think the criticism is particularly unfair like. We’re a whole month in and we’ve failed to make a single footballing appointment. I’m not surprised Emery had reservations, it’s fairly obvious the plan isn’t there yet. How can we convince top players and managers to join if we don’t have a DoF, or any equivalent role, if that’s a structure we’re looking at? How can our plans be set if the key people involved in those plans aren’t even through the door? I get the manager appointment couldn’t be done imminently. But I fail to believe the consortium haven’t had a single person lined up for a role in the club. Unless they get their act together soon and make the right appointments, we might very well be the richest team in the Championship. Do you not think a lot of that is down to the state of the club they've inherited? In an ideal world, you start at the top, appoint a CEO and work your way down the pecking order and I'd imagine that's exactly what they would have done. Unfortunately, they bought a club winless in eight and the manager and the interim manager haven't been capable of buying them any time, so they're immediately on the back foot. They need to start with a manager, which is far from ideal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I guess this is basic but if he doesn’t want to manage us then he can go fuck himself. This is some incredible project for someone to take on and if he’d rather sit with his mid table Spanish club, so be it. I back whoever takes this on and they have all my love and support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, KDT said: Might’ve already been posted Wow. I'm all in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) Wasn't Howe as close to becoming Celtic manager as Emery was to being our manager? I'm not convinced he'll come like, I've seen Martinez's name too often and it feels like it'll end up being him purely because I can't stand him Edited November 3, 2021 by kisearch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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